View Full Version : Which of these Newbies will pull a surprise in Germany?
Eowin
14 Dec 2005, 03:22 PM
Ukraine
Trinida & Tobago
Ghana
Togo
Serbia & Montenegro
Cote d'Ivoire
:)
MassachusettsRef
14 Dec 2005, 03:43 PM
Oh great, you've revived the "is Serbia a debutant" discussion...they're not, but I predict that won't stop a few pages of debate.
(objectively speaking, Czech Republic is more of debutant than Serbia & Montenegro, though I don't think either qualifies)
soccerguy3119
14 Dec 2005, 06:26 PM
Ukraine is goin to b the biggest surpise out of them all
ChaChaFut
14 Dec 2005, 06:56 PM
Ghana. But I hate saying it will be a surprise, because they are a great team.
And a lot of people might be perplex if Angola beats Mexico.
simonb_nyc
14 Dec 2005, 08:44 PM
Ghana. But I hate saying it will be a surprise, because they are a great team.
And a lot of people might be perplex if Angola beats Mexico.
Angola can beat Mexico. Just like Ghana can beat the US. Dangerous teams.
ChaChaFut
14 Dec 2005, 08:46 PM
Dangerous they are, but people are unable or refuse to recognize it.
yellowbismark
14 Dec 2005, 09:10 PM
dammit, not another idiot who thinks Serbia-Montenegro is a newbie :rolleyes:
ursula
14 Dec 2005, 11:22 PM
I'm thinkin' Togo could pull off a second round place. Not fashionable, but there it is.
toneroll
14 Dec 2005, 11:36 PM
i dont think the ukraine will do nearly as good as a lot of people think, they only have shevchkenko , then thats about it..
i put ivory coast... i saw them draw italy not too long ago... they are like this world cup's senegal..
Wessoman
15 Dec 2005, 12:28 AM
Ukraine
Trinida & Tobago
Ghana
Togo
Serbia & Montenegro
Cote d'Ivoire
:)
I am going to go with two: The Ukraine and Trinidad and Tobago. The Ukraine will go far--They are a solid team, but also their group is realistic. The Ukraine is the only one of the debut teams with a realistic chance to win their group. None of the other debutantes can make that claim.
T&T are my other choice. For one, nobody rates them, and for two, they have an amazing coach. No team in qualification played the USA tougher than T&T, and they even managed to beat Mexico. While I don't expect them to advance, I expect them to play lively football and will probably get 3 points-- I can see them getting a result from Paraguay or Sweden.
Unfortunately, the other teams are placed in difficult groups. Serbia and Cote d'Ivoire may draw each other, but not much else. Ghana will have her moments, but it's unrealistic to expect great results three times. That is very unfortunate for Ghana--They are an amazing team stuck in a very dangerous group. In perhaps any other group (Besides C), they would be a real danger to advance.
ASroma90
15 Dec 2005, 07:55 AM
yeah serbia is not a newbie.........see yugoslavia....almost the same
:p
spoonman
15 Dec 2005, 09:03 AM
Ukraine
Trinida & Tobago
Ghana
Togo
Serbia & Montenegro
Cote d'Ivoire
:)
Serbia is the complete same country as Yougoslavia at WC 98 and Euro 2000 where they reached the second round and the quarterfinal. Serbians must be annoyed like hell because of all those idiots who keep on referring to Serbia as a newby.
Go do some homework
loden
15 Dec 2005, 09:45 AM
i dont think the ukraine will do nearly as good as a lot of people think, they only have shevchkenko , then thats about it..
do you realize that shevchenko didn't play in half of the qualifying matches?
tabgio
15 Dec 2005, 10:35 AM
Ukraine won their qualifying group which included Turkey, Denmark and Greece.
They also are in a easy group, should they finish second to spain they have a path to the quarterfinals and possibly Semifinals.
Rnd. 2 Ukr > Fra./Swiss
Quart. Ukr.> Italy/Czech/Croatia
Semifinals Ukr. v Ger./Neth./Arg./Por.
Rakim_22
15 Dec 2005, 12:48 PM
do you realize that shevchenko didn't play in half of the qualifying matches?
Thats pretty impresssive on Ukraine's part. :cool:
ChaChaFut
16 Dec 2005, 12:05 AM
Ukraine won their qualifying group which included Turkey, Denmark and Greece.
They also are in a easy group, should they finish second to spain they have a path to the quarterfinals and possibly Semifinals.
Rnd. 2 Ukr > Fra./Swiss
Quart. Ukr.> Italy/Czech/Croatia
Semifinals Ukr. v Ger./Neth./Arg./Por.Very good. I was about to post a similar observation. I think they will be eliminated in quarterfinals, but who knows, they are a better team than a lot of people think. It's not just Shevchenko.
fk51785
16 Dec 2005, 01:22 AM
Ukraine ... They will probably make the Round of 16 ...
tomwilhelm
16 Dec 2005, 08:15 AM
Ukraine ... They will probably make the Round of 16 ...
I came into this thread to say the same thing... :cool:
toneroll
16 Dec 2005, 09:56 PM
do you realize that shevchenko didn't play in half of the qualifying matches?
erm , lets see i havnt looked into it yet but i'll take a wild guess , the half of matches he didnt take part in DID NOT include denmark and turkey???
correct? coz the rest were fodder.
greece , crap(despite euro , i dont care what anyone says , they play ugly football and have been found out over the last 2 years ) and the rest?
albania , georgia and kaka stan. could the last three ties be the ones he sat out from by any chance???
either way my OPINION still stands .. they won't do as good as people think they will
ShaRule
23 Dec 2005, 10:05 AM
Serbia Montenegro IS a new team/country
Yuguslavia was Bosnia+Serbia and in these NEW countries yuguslavia split up and see here on fifa.com they also say Serbia and MoNtenegro is a new country:http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/h/pollr.html?cid=1&vote=-1