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NattyBo
14 Dec 2005, 03:33 PM
According to Goose, who just talked to the USSF, the confirmation numbers are random and not ordered by the time they were recieved.

Palermo10
14 Dec 2005, 03:34 PM
updated

# 103x faxed at 12:25pm CT Monday
# 130x faxed at 1:45pm CT Monday
# 201x faxed at 3:00pm CT Monday
# 20XX fax at 4:05CT
# 301x faxed at 4:20 CT Monday
# 10xx faxed at 4:21 CT Monday
# 40xx Fax went through at 4:48 p.m CT on Monday.
# 301x faxed at 5:00pm CT Monday
# 30xx faxed at 5:06pm CT Monday
# 30xx at 5:11Pm BTW 2 seats
# 5xxx faxed at about 6:30pm CT Monday.
# 61xx faxed at 11:03 pm CST Monday.


out of the 12 faxes listed above, only 2 do not make sense if you are looking for a relationship between time and confirmation #.

Shibb
14 Dec 2005, 03:35 PM
Mine was 50xx at 5:24 CST

Magpie Maniac
14 Dec 2005, 03:43 PM
According to Goose, who just talked to the USSF, the confirmation numbers are random and not ordered by the time they were recieved.

Who at USSF said that? The person who said that they were no longer accepting faxes or the one who said to keep faxing?

spidergoose
14 Dec 2005, 03:49 PM
Who at USSF said that? The person who said that they were no longer accepting faxes or the one who said to keep faxing?
Look, I really don't think anybody at USSF said to stop faxing. I think whoever broke that is a liar and used it as a ploy to free up the fax lines so that he could send his application in.

I didn't catch the name of the person I spoke to, sorry.

Palermo10
14 Dec 2005, 04:14 PM
updated

# 103x faxed at 12:25pm CT Monday
# 130x faxed at 1:45pm CT Monday
# 201x faxed at 3:00pm CT Monday
# 20XX fax at 4:05CT
# 30xx at 4:11pm BTW 2 seats
# 301x faxed at 4:20 CT Monday
# 10xx faxed at 4:21 CT Monday
# 40xx Fax at 4:48 p.m CT on Monday.
# 301x faxed at 5:00pm CT Monday
# 30xx faxed at 5:06pm CT Monday
# 404x faxed at about 5:10pm Monday
# 50xx faxed at 5:24pm CT Monday
# 5xxx faxed at about 6:30pm CT Monday.
# 20xx faxed at 7:56pm Monday (central?)
# 60xx faxed at about 9 PM CST Monday
# 6xxx faxed at 1030pm Monday
# 61xx faxed at 11:03 pm CST Monday.




out of the 18 faxes listed above, only 3 do not make sense if you are looking for a relationship between time and confirmation #.

Etienne_72772
14 Dec 2005, 04:33 PM
Look, I really don't think anybody at USSF said to stop faxing. I think whoever broke that is a liar and used it as a ploy to free up the fax lines so that he could send his application in.

I didn't catch the name of the person I spoke to, sorry.

In my case, it didn't matter. I had to stop faxing in order to get it to the FEDEX in time for morning delivery.

That is what I am upset about--the seeming Catch-22. I could have not sent the FEDEX, and continued to try the fax, with the risk of not getting through, which would have screwed me big time, as I would have been sitting at my desk on Tuesday morning with the application in my hand. Instead, I took a different kind of gamble, and sent it in by FEDEX. And don't forget, at no time was it clear that they would continue to accept faxes after business hours.

EXboxur
14 Dec 2005, 04:34 PM
Look, I really don't think anybody at USSF said to stop faxing. I think whoever broke that is a liar and used it as a ploy to free up the fax lines so that he could send his application in.

I didn't catch the name of the person I spoke to, sorry.
That would be Taylor Aldridge or username " taylor ". Right when he posted that the USSF said to stop Faxing and FedEx, I believed it :o :rolleyes: , but within an hour of that, Fax's started going through. :mad:

This whole thing smells like a rotten can of tuna. :mad:

Cannon
14 Dec 2005, 04:35 PM
quick note my time was 511PM Eastern not central.

s0ccerstud86
14 Dec 2005, 04:54 PM
fax sent 8:33 p.m. ct,
confirmation #60**

Palermo10
14 Dec 2005, 04:55 PM
updated

# 103x faxed at 12:25pm CT Monday
# 130x faxed at 1:45pm CT Monday
# 201x faxed at 3:00pm CT Monday
# 20XX fax at 4:05CT
# 30xx at 4:11pm BTW 2 seats
# 301x faxed at 4:20 CT Monday
# 10xx faxed at 4:21 CT Monday
# 40xx Fax at 4:48 p.m CT on Monday.
# 301x faxed at 5:00pm CT Monday
# 30xx faxed at 5:06pm CT Monday
# 404x faxed at about 5:10pm Monday
# 50xx faxed at 5:24pm CT Monday
# 5xxx faxed at about 6:30pm CT Monday.
# 20xx faxed at 7:56pm Monday (central?)
# 600x fax sent 8:33 p.m. ct
# 60xx faxed at about 9 PM CST Monday
# 6xxx faxed at 1030pm Monday
# 61xx faxed at 11:03 pm CST Monday.




out of the 19 faxes listed above, only 3 do not make sense if you are looking for a relationship between time and confirmation #.

Etienne_72772
14 Dec 2005, 04:59 PM
By the way, someone is saying in the other thread that he fedexed his in, and it arrive at 9:34, and he has gotten a confirmation number already. (30XX)

Palermo10
14 Dec 2005, 05:05 PM
By the way, someone is saying in the other thread that he fedexed his in, and it arrive at 9:34, and he has gotten a confirmation number already. (30XX)


Thats what I think both of us mentioned in another thread- are they going to account for Fedexed applications? Like look at the time it was stamped?

If his Fedex arrived at 9:34am the next morning, its likely it was stamped at maybe 3-4pm?

Which would fit with the trend... and thus give hope to the Fedexers

Shibb
14 Dec 2005, 05:15 PM
I've come to the conclusion that only one thing is absolutely for certain here:

No matter how they slice this, USSF is going to royally screw/piss off a decent chunk of hardcore fans. A lottery might not have been more in my favor (who knows?), but it would have been a lot easier to swallow than whatever arbitrary measure they end up using. At least it would have been, at least superficially, pure random chance, rather than a crazy race where no one is quite sure of the rules.

NASL Fan
14 Dec 2005, 05:33 PM
I've come to the conclusion that only one thing is absolutely for certain here:

No matter how they slice this, USSF is going to royally screw/piss off a decent chunk of hardcore fans. A lottery might not have been more in my favor (who knows?), but it would have been a lot easier to swallow than whatever arbitrary measure they end up using. At least it would have been, at least superficially, pure random chance, rather than a crazy race where no one is quite sure of the rules.

I agree 100% on the lottery.

Especially when you look at the small numbers involved...

Someone said US soccer has an 8% allocation.

That would be 3,500 tickets for the Czech Rep. game (accroding to FIFA, "purchasable ticket capacity" is 43,920 at the G. stadium for group games), 2,900 for the Italy game and 2,500 for the Ghana game.

If you figure an average of 3.5 tickets per customer, that's 1,000 requests filled for the Czech Rep. game and even less for Italy and Ghana... Why even say you'll accept Fed Ex when there's a good chance most of the available tickets will be gone via the fax sale by the time the first overnight mail can arrive.

Bogus.

nkuchida
14 Dec 2005, 05:39 PM
Thats what I think both of us mentioned in another thread- are they going to account for Fedexed applications? Like look at the time it was stamped?

If his Fedex arrived at 9:34am the next morning, its likely it was stamped at maybe 3-4pm?

Which would fit with the trend... and thus give hope to the Fedexers

Just to add to the confusion, I UPS'ed my application in (Delivered at 9:42 on Tuesday) and *just* received a confirmation number of 20xx.

Cannon
14 Dec 2005, 05:40 PM
Why even say you'll accept Fed Ex when there's a good chance most of the available tickets will be gone via the fax sale by the time the first overnight mail can arrive.

My guess is that the higher ups at USSF have stock in Fedex. Only logical explanation. ;)

Palermo10
14 Dec 2005, 06:09 PM
updated

# 103x faxed at 12:25pm CT Monday
# 130x faxed at 1:45pm CT Monday
# 201x faxed at 3:00pm CT Monday
# 20XX faxed at 4:05CT
# 30xx faxed at 4:11pm BTW 2 seats
# 40xx faxed at 4:15ish Faxon Monday
# 301x faxed at 4:20 CT Monday
# 10xx faxed at 4:21 CT Monday
# 40xx faxed at 4:48 p.m CT on Monday.
# 301x faxed at 5:00pm CT Monday
# 30xx faxed at 5:06pm CT Monday
# 404x faxed at about 5:10pm Monday
# 50xx faxed at 5:24pm CT Monday
# 5xxx faxed at about 6:30pm CT Monday.
# 20xx faxed at 7:56pm Monday (central?)
# 600x faxed at 8:33 p.m. ct
# 60xx faxed at about 9 PM CST Monday
# 6xxx faxed at 1030pm Monday
# 61xx faxed at 11:03 pm CST Monday.
# 30xx sent via Fedex, arrived 9:34am Tuesday**
# 20xx sent via UPS, Delivered at 9:42 on Tuesday**


out of the 20 faxes listed above, only 4 do not make sense if you are looking for a relationship between time and confirmation #.


** my theory is that the Fedex/UPS applications are time-stamped and whenever that is (which would have been afternoon Monday), that represents their number

dfreshsf
14 Dec 2005, 06:15 PM
# 402x faxed at 6:50pm CT Monday

robviii
14 Dec 2005, 06:42 PM
** my theory is that the Fedex/UPS applications are time-stamped and whenever that is (which would have been afternoon Monday), that represents their number

The UPS and Fedex numbers are BS; look at the poster/prankster on both occasions; he/she/it has less than 10 posts