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seanT
13 Dec 2005, 04:30 PM
Did anyone else both fax and overnight their applications?

I think my fax went through about 9:30 pm, by which time of course my fedex was on its way.

Any speculation on what they will do with duplicates?

DQ them as duplicates?
figure it out and ignore the 2nd?
double charge and give me double tickets?

I would like to think the 2nd, fear the first, would take the third!

Old Man!
13 Dec 2005, 04:33 PM
8. Can I fax my order and then send a hard copy by mail to make sure U.S. Soccer receives it?

No. If the same order is delivered to U.S. Soccer through multiple methods (i.e. fax AND mail), the order has the potential to be double-processed (in which case any duplication in tickets will not be eligible for a refund or transfer) or rejected (due to exceeding the ticket purchase limitations set by FIFA). U.S. Soccer recommends selecting only one method of delivery for your 2006 FIFA World Cup Ticket order.

Wolves1935
13 Dec 2005, 04:44 PM
8. Can I fax my order and then send a hard copy by mail to make sure U.S. Soccer receives it?

No. If the same order is delivered to U.S. Soccer through multiple methods (i.e. fax AND mail), the order has the potential to be double-processed (in which case any duplication in tickets will not be eligible for a refund or transfer) or rejected (due to exceeding the ticket purchase limitations set by FIFA). U.S. Soccer recommends selecting only one method of delivery for your 2006 FIFA World Cup Ticket order.

BUT, US Soccer has already proven they don't abide by the answers they gave in the FAQ Section, by not properly preparing themselves for the amount faxes attempted - Question # 7, I believe.

JBigjake
13 Dec 2005, 04:53 PM
BUT, US Soccer has already proven they don't abide by the answers they gave in the FAQ Section, by not properly preparing themselves for the amount faxes attempted - Question # 7, I believe.
Ooh, wise guy, huh? http://www.art.com/asp/sp.asp?PD=10204510&RFID=055687

MikeLastort2
13 Dec 2005, 05:11 PM
Why the hell would anyone fax an application AFTER sending one via FedEx, UPS, DHL, USPS, whatever???

SnakeEyes
13 Dec 2005, 05:32 PM
Social Darwinism takes to long.

Bonji
13 Dec 2005, 05:43 PM
I was told if they receive two forms you can be kicked out of the whole thing. I was asking to see if I should fax a second time to ensure I get through because my fax machine didn't give me a confirmation report.

Cannon
13 Dec 2005, 06:19 PM
8. Can I fax my order and then send a hard copy by mail to make sure U.S. Soccer receives it?

No. If the same order is delivered to U.S. Soccer through multiple methods (i.e. fax AND mail), the order has the potential to be double-processed (in which case any duplication in tickets will not be eligible for a refund or transfer) or rejected (due to exceeding the ticket purchase limitations set by FIFA). U.S. Soccer recommends selecting only one method of delivery for your 2006 FIFA World Cup Ticket order.Does that mean that someone that sent in multiple copies of an order which only had half (or less) of the ticket requests allowed by FIFA, they would probably not get rejected but could get double charged? Could they then just reassign the duplicates using the FIFA process?

That doesn't sound to bad to me...but I'm probably missing some other interpretation of those words. Probably something in the fine print of the FIFA regs.

MikeLastort2
13 Dec 2005, 07:11 PM
I was told if they receive two forms you can be kicked out of the whole thing. I was asking to see if I should fax a second time to ensure I get through because my fax machine didn't give me a confirmation report.

You could call them and ask.

MikeLastort2
13 Dec 2005, 07:13 PM
Does that mean that someone that sent in multiple copies of an order which only had half (or less) of the ticket requests allowed by FIFA, they would probably not get rejected but could get double charged? Could they then just reassign the duplicates using the FIFA process?

That doesn't sound to bad to me...but I'm probably missing some other interpretation of those words. Probably something in the fine print of the FIFA regs.

It seems pretty simple to me. Send one application per household or BOTH of your applications will be rejected.

If you've faxed it in, don't mail one in. If you've mailed one in, don't fax one in.

Cannon
13 Dec 2005, 07:17 PM
It seems pretty simple to me. Send one application per household or BOTH of your applications will be rejected.

If you've faxed it in, don't mail one in. If you've mailed one in, don't fax one in.
See I knew I was missing something. Thanks.

seanT
13 Dec 2005, 07:17 PM
Why the hell would anyone fax an application AFTER sending one via FedEx, UPS, DHL, USPS, whatever???


I figured the fax would be time stamped when it came in and thus would be processed before the fedex arrival.

but, I could not be sure the fax would ever go through, so I also fedexed to be sure. I did not fedex until late in the afternoon, when I had not yet gotten through

MikeLastort2
13 Dec 2005, 07:20 PM
I figured the fax would be time stamped when it came in and thus would be processed before the fedex arrival.

but, I could not be sure the fax would ever go through, so I also fedexed to be sure. I did not fedex until late in the afternoon, when I had not yet gotten through

If you sent FedEx, why didn't you stop your attempts to send in a fax? One or the other, but not both. It's not that hard to understand.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but if your applications are rejected it's your own fault.

seanT
13 Dec 2005, 10:48 PM
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Please don't take this the wrong way, but if your applications are rejected it's your own fault.

I don't know about taking it the wrong way, but its certainly not a statement that offends me or anything.

I am taking comfort in the relatively unspecific language found in the FAQ, words like "may" and "recomends" rather than "will" and "must"

Frankly given the fact I was on an airplane most of Monday, I was pleased to have even gotten the thing printed!

Old Man!
13 Dec 2005, 11:22 PM
Don't take my word for it, but I'd say they'd let it slide, though you may be double billed. If some of the rumours on here are true and other fax numbers worked and applications were accepted from those lines, then they've proven that the rules are not rigid and that they can bend. Whether anyone thinks that should happen in the first place is another argument altogether.

Galaxian
13 Dec 2005, 11:35 PM
Who knows what USSF will do next , I can't wait to find out so i can bag on them on a new thread..

seanT
14 Dec 2005, 11:51 AM
from other threads comes this email, which makes me think I'll be OK


Dear U.S. Soccer Fan,

Thank you for your interest in U.S. Soccer and the 2006 FIFA World Cup!
We appreciate your patience in awaiting our response. We have received
your e-mail regarding concerns about invalidating your 2006 FIFA World
Cup Ticket Order Form due to multiple submissions via fax or mail. As
long as it is clear to U.S. Soccer that the multiple orders forms were a
result of a faxing error (i.e. automatic re-dial continued to send order
form, no fax confirmation received therefore order form was also sent
via mail, etc.), your order form will still be in consideration for
ticket allocation.

Thank you for your patience and understanding in this matter. We
apologize for any inconveniences and sincerely appreciate your support
of U.S. Soccer!

U.S. Soccer

robviii
14 Dec 2005, 12:32 PM
Yes. Mine was sent by FedEx and when I checked my email this morning I had a confirmation email timed last night after 8 p.m. central.

Was it a same-day fedex? When did your fedex package arrive?

Has anyone who fedexed for the following day (the 13th) received a confirmation email? What time did the fedex package arrive?

dfoote
14 Dec 2005, 01:38 PM
This concerns me. I went to fedex on Monday and found out they could cancel a delivery if I wanted it done later that night. So I sent the thing, found out the fax lines were open at 9 p.m., got a fax through, called Fedex and cancelled the delivery, and went to bed dreaming sweet dreams about how clever I am.

Of course, Fedex failed to cancel the delivery and the dutiful Mr. Furtal received my application at 7:09.

Now I dream sour dreams of having outsmarted myself.

Etienne_72772
14 Dec 2005, 02:02 PM
This concerns me. I went to fedex on Monday and found out they could cancel a delivery if I wanted it done later that night. So I sent the thing, found out the fax lines were open at 9 p.m., got a fax through, called Fedex and cancelled the delivery, and went to bed dreaming sweet dreams about how clever I am.

Of course, Fedex failed to cancel the delivery and the dutiful Mr. Furtal received my application at 7:09.

Now I dream sour dreams of having outsmarted myself.

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