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Well ya know, my office has a "Fax To" number on letters too.
But if someone uses one of the other 2 fax lines, we still consider those faxes.
He's right here, fid. The second instruction--the one on the actual application--expressly tells you what to do to get tickets: "Fax to (this number)."
The instructons on the instruction sheet leave the possibility open to fax to another number, however.
MikeLastort2
14 Dec 2005, 06:49 PM
The rules were listed on this PDF file
Official Instructions for ussoccerfan.com Order Form (http://dps.twiihosting.net/USSF/doc/content/doc_6_525.pdf)
Page one plainly states:
What do I need to know as a customer completing this form?
• There are five (5) sections of the ussoccerfan.com 2006 FIFA World CupTM Ticket Order Form that must be
thoroughly read, completed, and submitted to U.S. Soccer in order for your ticket order to be considered complete:
o Customer Information
o Match Pricing & Match Selection
o Payment Information
o Ticket Holder List
o 2006 FIFA World CupTM Ticket General Terms and Conditions (does not need to be submitted to U.S.
Soccer)
• Completed order forms with valid method of payment must be received via fax or mail at U.S. Soccer before
Wednesday, January 4, 2006 at 5 p.m. CT.
OFFICIAL MAILING ADDRESS: U.S. Soccer Federation
ATTN: Ticket Department
1801 South Prairie Avenue
Chicago, IL 60616
OFFICIAL FAX: (312) 528-7049
• U.S. Soccer strongly recommends submitting your order via a method with delivery confirmation (i.e. fax, DHL,
Certified Mail, FedEx, etc.). Orders will NOT be accepted through any delivery method other than fax or
mail (i.e. in person, by courier, through e-mail, etc.). Orders will be filled on a first-come-first-serve basis
and orders received after the U.S. Soccer allotment is sold will be placed on the U.S. Soccer Waiting List until all
preceding ticket orders are confirmed. Please note that ticket order forms with insufficient postage, invalid payment
or that are incomplete, unclear or damaged will not be processed.
• For order forms to be considered for processing, the customer must:
o be 18 years of age or older,
o be a registered ussoccerfan.com member,
o provide the unique password assigned to the ussoccerfan.com member’s registered e-mail address, and
o provide a valid U.S. billing address OR a valid U.S. Passport number.
• U.S. Soccer will not be able to immediately confirm receipt of your order form. You will receive a receipt
confirmation e-mail at your registered ussoccerfan.com e-mail address within two (2) business days of U.S.
Soccer receiving your order. Please note, the confirmation message signifies only that your order form has been
received. You will receive further correspondence from U.S. Soccer to notify you of your order status (i.e. fulfilled
or placed on the U.S. Soccer Waiting List) at a later date.
• Please note for the purpose of this order form:
o the customer is the individual or corporate body that orders and pays for the tickets
o the ticket holder is the individual in whose name the ticket(s) are issued, and who will be using the
ticket(s) to enter the stadium
o the household is an order or orders placed by one last name at one delivery address
How can that be interpreted in any other way?
If I sent the package to another mailing address (like 1803 South Prarie Avenue) should my application be considered?
The rules were listed on this PDF file
Official Instructions for ussoccerfan.com Order Form (http://dps.twiihosting.net/USSF/doc/content/doc_6_525.pdf)
Page one plainly states:
How can that be interpreted in any other way?
I already posted that, Mike. That was my first post in this thread, in fact. It can be read another way.
The instructions on the application are much more clear.
The fact that there are two sets of instructions that don't match is another ******** up by the USSF.
fidlerre
14 Dec 2005, 06:52 PM
How would they know to use the other numbers then?Call like Bonji did.
I still think this was done ambiguously to make it easier for "friends of the USSF" to get first crack at our expense.
Trust me, if they want to give "friends of the USSF" first crack, there's no reason for them to do it this way -- they can just hold back however many tickets they wanna hold for their "friends" and you'll never know.
MikeLastort2
14 Dec 2005, 06:53 PM
I agree that USSF screwed up. I also think people who faxed to an "unofficial number" cheated.
REVS FAN 1
14 Dec 2005, 06:54 PM
I think this is all a big conspiracy by the USSF to keep all DCU supporters out of the World Cup Stadiums....
And let me just say...."I'm fine with that!" ;)
MikeLastort2
14 Dec 2005, 06:54 PM
Screw it. I'll ask my sister to talk to people in Bradenton to see if she can pull some strings for me. Who needs ethics? This is the World Cup.
:rolleyes:
fidlerre
14 Dec 2005, 06:56 PM
Screw it. I'll ask my sister to talk to people in Bradenton to see if she can pull some strings for me. Who needs ethics? This is the World Cup.
:rolleyes:
That's the spirit Mike!
Bonji
14 Dec 2005, 06:58 PM
I agree that USSF screwed up. I also think people who faxed to an "unofficial number" cheated.
Is it cheating if someone says, "yes, that is ok"?
As far as your address thing, that is a terrible example as I was fairly certain that the official fax number listed on the Federation's website was also in their office not some other, random address.
MikeLastort2
14 Dec 2005, 06:58 PM
That's the spirit Mike!
John Hackworth coaches her youngest kid's club team - the Manatee Magic U10s, and she's his team manager.
I bet he could hook me up. :)
Atouk
14 Dec 2005, 06:58 PM
Well ya know, my office has a "Fax To" number on letters too.
But if someone uses one of the other 2 fax lines, we still consider those faxes.I get ya', fid. Of course, I didn't say it wasn't a fax.
But if someone considers "PR" (or wherever they sent it) and "ticket office" different offices, they might not consider a request to PR as a request for tickets... they might just consider it clogging up PR's fax line for the day.
Telling someone to "fax to" a particular number is an instruction, but so is telling people to fill out the form in "ALL CAPITALS" but I doubt they'll be rejecting applications for failure to follow that one. I wasn't trying to say how they will or should respond to not following the "fax to" command.
Bonji
14 Dec 2005, 06:59 PM
Screw it. I'll ask my sister to talk to people in Bradenton to see if she can pull some strings for me. Who needs ethics? This is the World Cup.
:rolleyes:
I don't see why you've been waiting for all these random ticket lotteries, etc. when you have a potential connection to US Soccer. I'm asking my friend's dad next if this doesn't work out.
MikeLastort2
14 Dec 2005, 07:01 PM
Is it cheating if someone says, "yes, that is ok"?
As far as your address thing, that is a terrible example as I was fairly certain that the official fax number listed on the Federation's website was also in their office not some other, random address.
Rationalize it anyway you want. You could've sent your application via FedEx/DHL/UPS/USPS when you were unable to get through on the fax line. You elected to open yourself up to criticism when you went around the spirit of the rules put in place to get your own way.
If you can live with that, fine. And if you don't have a problem with doing what you did, why do you keep trying to justify it?
Magpie Maniac
14 Dec 2005, 07:02 PM
The instructions on the application are much more clear.
The fact that there are two sets of instructions that don't match is another ******** up by the USSF.
The fact that the USSF changed the form to be clearer is a pretty good indication of their original intent.
I have no problem with the nonofficial fax number users getting tickets. No problem at all. They just need to go to end of the line for cutting.
MikeLastort2
14 Dec 2005, 07:02 PM
I don't see why you've been waiting for all these random ticket lotteries, etc. when you have a potential connection to US Soccer. I'm asking my friend's dad next if this doesn't work out.
My sister already talked to Hackworth for me. He told her that I had to go through the "official" process. If I don't get tickets that way, I'm going to ask her to talk to him again. In fact, I'm going to tell her to invite him over to her place when my wife and are I down in Bradenton over Christmas so I can ask him myself.
Bonji
14 Dec 2005, 07:03 PM
The fact that the USSF changed the form to be clearer is a pretty good indication of their original intent.
I have no problem with the nonofficial fax number users getting tickets. No problem at all. They just need to go to end of the line for cutting.
How do you know I didn't try starting to fax before you? Wouldn't that put me in line before you?
MikeLastort2
14 Dec 2005, 07:04 PM
The fact that the USSF changed the form to be clearer is a pretty good indication of their original intent.
I have no problem with the nonofficial fax number users getting tickets. No problem at all. They just need to go to end of the line for cutting.
That's fine with me. They should not be considered "first come" ahead of people who sent in via the USSF's snail mail address.
Bonji
14 Dec 2005, 07:05 PM
Rationalize it anyway you want. You could've sent your application via FedEx/DHL/UPS/USPS when you were unable to get through on the fax line. You elected to open yourself up to criticism when you went around the spirit of the rules put in place to get your own way.
If you can live with that, fine. And if you don't have a problem with doing what you did, why do you keep trying to justify it?
And you can continue to kick yourself in the butt for not looking on the US Soccer website, finding the other fax number, faxing it that way, then calling to see if that was ok before deciding to continue trying to fax to the original number or sending over night.
Bonji
14 Dec 2005, 07:06 PM
That's fine with me. They should not be considered "first come" ahead of people who sent in via the USSF's snail mail address.
Except it got there faster.
The fact that the USSF changed the form to be clearer is a pretty good indication of their original intent.
I have no problem with the nonofficial fax number users getting tickets. No problem at all. They just need to go to end of the line for cutting.
It's also an admission that the original instructions weren't clear.
Viscious circle.