OT: NHL Thread

[chelsea new yorker]

All of you:
Great to see good hockey gob-smacking!
The Germans have it right...suspend Bundesliga for six weeks, so that everyone can watch hockey.
Can hardly wait for the Olympics.
Various notes:
1. Tronna fans have this noblesse oblege about them, true. What mystifies me is HOW they deserved it? Their record for recent futility is only matched by..
2. BOSTON - cripes, Bobby Orr was THIRTY years ago! Other than a 4-0 rubout by the Oilers (one being the infamous blackout game), you still are devoted to that team and the worst owner in sports, Jacobs. I think Bruins fans all have two-digit IQs, and would pay to see trained seals wearing black sweaters.....
3. saw Albany outscore Portland 7-6 last night. Albany's resident goon got a hat trick (!!) with the neph getting two assists, plus 4 minutes for two roughing calls. Sweet...
4. Eddie, if you were at Nevadas for the ManU game, you probably saw ManU Louie (Veron's evil twin) up at the bar, hurling invectives at us. (Normally, he's decent, but can get crazy). Anyway, see him occasionally at Blue Moon on First Ave and 76th (hockey bar supreme, right in my nabe) wearing a Beukeboom sweater, and watching the NFL or NHL Sunday nights..
(BTW - great place for a hockey fix.)
Looking forward to your support, and even smack.
BTW, my Olympix predictions:
bronze (major upset, if they get goaltending right): Slovakia
silver Canada
gold Russia (can't wait to see Malkin)

[yasik19]

All of you:

gold Russia (can't wait to see Malkin)

you need to post more often here. ;)

[chelsea new yorker]

you need to post more often here. ;)

spasiba, Yasik....

[yasik19]

Who, the Flyers? I seem remember them sending you guys home with your tails between your legs! OK so I don't remember but I've seen the game and been told about it. Russia, let me introduce you to the Broad Street Bullies.

I really need to talk Catherine into letting me go to the game either on Thursday (NJ Devils) or Saturday (Rangers).

as i said before, CSKA Moscow is the best hockey team that has ever played.
Just because the Flyers won in 1976, doesn't really mean much. Should have been called a penalty on "The Hammer" anyways. ;) I'm also pretty sure that CSKA MOscow won many more titles than the Flyers, but you knew that already.

However, in my post i was talking about USSR as the best hockey team ever.
This guy, Valery Kharlamov, did quite a number on US on few occasions.

[chelsea new yorker]

as i said before, CSKA Moscow is the best hockey team that has ever played.
Just because the Flyers won in 1976, doesn't really mean much. Should have been called a penalty on "The Hammer" anyways. ;) I'm also pretty sure that CSKA MOscow won many more titles than the Flyers, but you knew that already.

However, in my post i was talking about USSR as the best hockey team ever.
This guy, Valery Kharlamov, did quite a number on US on few occasions.
I once went drinking with Vladimir Krutov - helluva guy. Of course, can never forget Vladislav Tretiak..which made the US achivement in Lake Placid ever the more remarkable.
Can recall what the Soviet spokeman said about Bobby Clarke: "Booby Clarke...he is NOT a sportsman..." Classic.
I am going to catch up soon with Jeff Hamilton, who now plays for the Islanders, about his 1 1/2 years playing as a Yank in the Russian League, just as recently as this fall. Mutual friends say he had quite the experience......

[yasik19]

I once went drinking with Vladimir Krutov - helluva guy. Of course, can never forget Vladislav Tretiak..which made the US achivement in Lake Placid ever the more remarkable.
Can recall what the Soviet spokeman said about Bobby Clarke: "Booby Clarke...he is NOT a sportsman..." Classic.
I am going to catch up soon with Jeff Hamilton, who now plays for the Islanders, about his 1 1/2 years playing as a Yank in the Russian League, just as recently as this fall. Mutual friends say he had quite the experience......

that's sweet. Krutov was one hell of a winger. Part of that famous KLM line.

[sportinglisbon1]

Please explain how Canada stormed back from the dead in the Summit Series in 72.... how are they not the best team ever assembled?

[yasik19]

year Gold Silver Bronze

1920 Canada United States Czechoslovakia
1924 Canada United States Great Britain
1928 Canada Sweden Switzerland
1932 Canada United States Germany
1936 Great Britain Canada United States
1948 Canada Czechoslovakia Switzerland
1952 Canada United States Sweden
1956 Soviet Union United States Canada
1960 United States Canada Soviet Union
1964 Soviet Union Sweden Czechoslovakia
1968 Soviet Union Czechoslovakia Canada
1972 Soviet Union United States Czechoslovakia
1976 Soviet Union Czechoslovakia F.R. Germany
1980 United States Soviet Union Sweden
1984 Soviet Union Czechoslovakia Sweden
1988 Soviet Union Finland Sweden
1992 Unified Team Canada Czechoslovakia
1994 Sweden Canada Finland
1998 Czech Republic Russia Finland
2002 Canada United States Russia

So, 8 for Canada and 8 for USSR (including 1992 Unified Team). However, the 1920s and 1930s is the period where Soviet Union was in horrible shape and athletes didn't compete. So, if you look at those years following WWII, USSR has been by far the more dominant team.

[Factorial]

Uhhh... there just had to be an NHL thread here. This is the forum I go to, to escape the horribleness of being a 'Nucks fan (and enjoy talking --well, reading-- about winning...) I expect an annihilation by the Preds tonight, sending us further on a 6 game slide. ********.

[Factorial]

Please explain how Canada stormed back from the dead in the Summit Series in 72.... how are they not the best team ever assembled?

Wouldn't have happened had Clarke not done his patriotic duty.

[Factorial]

that's sweet. Krutov was one hell of a winger. Part of that famous KLM line.

He was also one hell of a hot-dog eater.

I recall meeting some people here who were part of the scene that brought the Russians here.

[sportinglisbon1]

year Gold Silver Bronze

1920 Canada United States Czechoslovakia
1924 Canada United States Great Britain
1928 Canada Sweden Switzerland
1932 Canada United States Germany
1936 Great Britain Canada United States
1948 Canada Czechoslovakia Switzerland
1952 Canada United States Sweden
1956 Soviet Union United States Canada
1960 United States Canada Soviet Union
1964 Soviet Union Sweden Czechoslovakia
1968 Soviet Union Czechoslovakia Canada
1972 Soviet Union United States Czechoslovakia
1976 Soviet Union Czechoslovakia F.R. Germany
1980 United States Soviet Union Sweden
1984 Soviet Union Czechoslovakia Sweden
1988 Soviet Union Finland Sweden
1992 Unified Team Canada Czechoslovakia
1994 Sweden Canada Finland
1998 Czech Republic Russia Finland
2002 Canada United States Russia

So, 8 for Canada and 8 for USSR (including 1992 Unified Team). However, the 1920s and 1930s is the period where Soviet Union was in horrible shape and athletes didn't compete. So, if you look at those years following WWII, USSR has been by far the more dominant team.


This chart is missing something.... what could it be? Well, to say that the soviets were just as dominant as Canada for the better portion of this century would be misleading.... I think it's safe to say that if NHL'ers were permitted to compete since day 1 of this century that chart would look alittle different. Up until the point where pros were permitted to play, the Canada Cups were true measuring sticks of 'World Champions'.


PAUL HENDERSONNNNN!!!!! SCOOOOORES!!!! :cool:

[Forza Moskva]

This chart is missing something.... what could it be? Well, to say that the soviets were just as dominant as Canada for the better portion of this century would be misleading.... I think it's safe to say that if NHL'ers were permitted to compete since day 1 of this century that chart would look alittle different. Up until the point where pros were permitted to play, the Canada Cups were true measuring sticks of 'World Champions'.


PAUL HENDERSONNNNN!!!!! SCOOOOORES!!!! :cool:
you're acting as if pros from russia/soviet union played as well. That's stupid. I seem to recall CSKA and Krylya Sovetov coming to America and demolishing just abiout every NHL team.

[Forza Moskva]

as i said before, CSKA Moscow is the best hockey team that has ever played.
Just because the Flyers won in 1976, doesn't really mean much. Should have been called a penalty on "The Hammer" anyways. ;) I'm also pretty sure that CSKA MOscow won many more titles than the Flyers, but you knew that already.

However, in my post i was talking about USSR as the best hockey team ever.
This guy, Valery Kharlamov, did quite a number on US on few occasions.
Personally I think Krylya Sovetov, for the 2-3 years they were champs were a great team. Lebedev was the bomb..

[chelsea new yorker]

He was also one hell of a hot-dog eater.

I recall meeting some people here who were part of the scene that brought the Russians here.

He had the best nickname in sport: Vlad "The Inhaler" Krutov. Seem to recall we split a large pizza w/everything, along with our brews...and I'm not a small person, but not quite NFL lineman size (more like a linebacker or strong safety)
great posts - too bad re: the 'Nucks - at least you're not in the Blue Jacket zone...
yeah, Henderson and 5000 Canadians singing "O Canada" while that piece of Soviet s##t went unaccompanied (to which Brezhnev ORDERED lyrics to be written to avoid another national embarrassment) (don't get me wrong - love Russia, hate the Communist system - tend to enjoy nd cherish that little thing called "freedom") - but the CCCP pioneered (bad pun) motion away from the puck and passing to the open ice, while Canada was still mired in the "dump and chase" with a few exceptions (les Canadiens, Gretzky) analagous to the Scotland of today playing the Holland of Cruyff, Rensensbrink, Rep, Neeskens. Tikhonov channeled through Rinus Michels...

one more name - Fedorov and the Bure brothers couldn't hold a candle to Helmut Balderis - fastest man I've ever seen on skates save Eric Heiden.

[Eddie26]

Just got back from the Pens-Rangers game. ********ing Crosby with the winner in OT. I f'cking hate him but he's REALLY f'cking good. Don Cherry can suck a d*ck.

[chelsea new yorker]

Just got back from the Pens-Rangers game. ********ing Crosby with the winner in OT. I f'cking hate him but he's REALLY f'cking good. Don Cherry can suck a d*ck.

Don Cherry is what I can most charitably call "Byzantine".He set the sport back 30 years, and it figures that the only people who believe him are dumb Canadians who think pro wrestling is genuine.

[sportinglisbon1]

Don Cherry is what I can most charitably call "Byzantine".He set the sport back 30 years, and it figures that the only people who believe him are dumb Canadians who think pro wrestling is genuine.


To say that Don Cherry set the sport back 30 years is pretty stupid. You don't have to like or agree with his opinions as I rarely do as well, but he has done more for hockey then any other foreigner (non-Canadian) has..... and that my friend is 100% truth.

I'd also like to know how you think he's brought the sport back 30 yrs. He's held a job on the worlds greatest hockey broadcast for a few decades now, surely he knows alittle more then some Yank.

And cheers on the performance of the US Junior team vs. the likes of Canada and Russia. :rolleyes:

[Eddie26]

I'd also like to know how you think he's brought the sport back 30 yrs. He's held a job on the worlds greatest hockey broadcast for a few decades now, surely he knows alittle more then some Yank.

What's nationality have to do with knowledge of something? That "Yank" has WAY more hockey knowledge than you can imagine. Sorry but you're calling the wrong person out. Chelsea New Yorker isn't some Tommy Come Lately.

[sportinglisbon1]

He used the term "Dumb Canadian". I suppose that would qualify me as one seeing as I respect Don Cherry for the things he's done for hockey and for charity as well. I was simply responding to that.