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Desigol
17 Jan 2003, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by Vicar
has-beens like

Brian McBride
Landon Donovon
Pablo Mastroeni
Eddie Pope
Bobby Convey
Chris Armas
Damarcus Beasley
Carlos Bocanegra
Clint Mathis
Taylor Twellmann
Carlos Ruiz

Well, American youth has been given a chance. But maybee if there was less emphasis on buying those who are past their sell by date then MORE youngsters could get a chance.

Canadian_Supporter
17 Jan 2003, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by Mike Segroves
Personally, MLS shouldn't be in the habit of developing Canadian players. That is the job of their league........................


Yeah, if we had a league. ;)

Of course it isn't the job of the MLS to develop young Canadian players.

Benedict XVI
17 Jan 2003, 11:09 PM
Originally posted by Desigol
Well, American youth has been given a chance. But maybee if there was less emphasis on buying those who are past their sell by date then MORE youngsters could get a chance.

Rodrigo Faria - Brazil - 25
Carlos Ruiz - Guatemala - 23
Freddy Garcia - Guatemala - 26
Duncan Oughton - New Zealand - 25
Daniel Torres - Costa Rica - 25
John Wilmar Perez - Colombia - 32
Ryan Nelsen - New Zealand - 25
Eliseo Quintanilla - El Salvador - 19
Marco Antonio Etcheverry - Bolivia - 32
Milton Reyes - Honduras - 28
Jaime Moreno - Bolivia - 28
Andy Williams - Jamaica - 25
Douda Kante - Mali - 24
Diego Serna - Colombia - 29
Danny Jackson - England - 23
Ronald Cerritos - El Salvador - 27
Tenywa Bonseu - Uganda - 26
Steve Morrow - Northern Ireland - 32
Ronnie O'Brien - Ireland - 24
Joselito Vaca - Bolivia - 20
Stephen Armstrong - South Africa - 26
Dario Fabbros - Argentina - 26
Igor Simutenkov - Russia - 29
Simon Elliott - New Zealand - 26
Alejandro Moreno - Venezuela - 23
Alex Pineda Chacon - Honduras - 33
Dwayne DeRosario - Canada - 24

tired of being wrong yet?

TopDogg
17 Jan 2003, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by Vicar

John Wilmar Perez - Colombia - 32
Marco Antonio Etcheverry - Bolivia - 32
Steve Morrow - Northern Ireland - 32
Alex Pineda Chacon - Honduras - 33

These young guns may grow up to be something special one day.

Benedict XVI
18 Jan 2003, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by TopDogg
These young guns may grow up to be something special one day. Those young guns have a total of 13 years of service to MLS between them. all of them a lot to offer and are valuable on and off the field.

even stoichkov and valderrama, the grandfathers of the league, were taking care of business until this past season and their influence on the younger players on their respective team is a value that can't be measured.

my point is, as we can all see, Desigol is either a troll or some sort of, uh, troll.

divingheader
18 Jan 2003, 12:14 PM
Hi Canucks.
I have just moved to St John from the states. I wish to support Canadian Soccer. I'm a long time player and supporter of American soccer, and a member of Sam's Army. I'm happy, if cold, to be up here.
UNBSJ has a top college program here in St John, which I am looking forward to getting involved with. There is an indoor league, and lots of players. So what with USA Canada happening I thought I'd invite over some folks to watch the game. I like a big group, more voices and opinions, more fun. And nobody I asked even knew there was a game today. A couple guys said they'd stop by, but with low enthusiasm. Thats the problem.
And now on BS you guys are talking HOCKEY. Maybe thats the problem. The US has the same problem with baseball/basketball/football. And even hockey, I guess.
USSF isn't trying to keep canadian soccer down, they don't need to. Is there an equivalent to Sam's Army for Canada? Is there a Canadian SF? Is there a canadian professional league? Are there any fans? I'm not being mean, I would like answers so I can get involved.
And why can't Canada field a MLS team, with Canadian players and three internationals? Welsh teams play in the english leagues...

Canadian_Supporter
18 Jan 2003, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by divingheader
Is there an equivalent to Sam's Army for Canada?

Check out

www.canadian-soccer.com (Voyageurs)...

There is no real professional league in Canada. As you might know, there are four teams in the A-League (Calgary, Vancouver, Montreal and Toronto). Edmonton is supposed to join in 2004, and Ottawa might also be looking to join in the near future.

There is a semi-pro league in Ontario/Quebec called the CPSL (www.cpsl.org) and a league out West, which is basically the same level of the CPSL called the PCSL (www.pcsl.bc.ca).

Here is the soccer New Brunswick site http://www.soccernb.org/

New Brunswick does have a provincial league, but it is strictly amateur.

The following site is also useful if you want to learn about the various levels of soccer in Canada

http://www.soccernb.org/

Oh yeah, it doesn't surprise me that not too many people know about the Canada-USA soccer match.

fdp
18 Jan 2003, 01:09 PM
I say start a grassroots effort by means of a petition to make Canada the 51st state and your problem is solved. (If Quebec doesn't agree, let them become their own country)

;)

(my troll for the month)

Daniel from Montréal
18 Jan 2003, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by futbol de primera
I say start a grassroots effort by means of a petition to make Canada the 51st state and your problem is solved. (If Quebec doesn't agree, let them become their own country)

;)

(my troll for the month)

Mmmmm, independance or becoming American? Not too hard a choice, I say. ;)

And as for the chap out in NB, I fear you might feel very lonely out there as currently the Voyageurs are rather centralised in the larger Canadian cities.

As for one Canadian MLS team, the "problem" lots of people have with that is that with the cost of a stadium and the $40m CAN franchise fee, one could bankroll a fully Canadian league for 5 years or so.

And it's not "just" a hockey game, it's THE hockey game that gets real attention coast-to-coast, the original 6 Canadian rivalry, Habs-Leafs.

Krammerhead
18 Jan 2003, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by Vicar


my point is, as we can all see, Desigol is either a troll or some sort of, uh, troll.

Desigol stated personal opinion on a Canadian section of this board. He certainly wasn't trolling.

Krammerhead
18 Jan 2003, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by Mike Segroves
Personally, MLS shouldn't be in the habit of developing Canadian players. That is the job of their league........................

Personally, I wouldn't hire a Canadian to mow my yard. He'd never show up for work because he'd always be waiting for the Maple to run.

Personally I wouldn't hire an American to mow my yard. All the time while mowing the front yard he'd be planning an invasion of the back yard.

Desigol
19 Jan 2003, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by Krammerhead
Desigol stated personal opinion on a Canadian section of this board. He certainly wasn't trolling.

Thanks for dfending me Krammerhead. I'm sure you'd appreciate it.

Krammerhead
19 Jan 2003, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by Desigol
Thanks for dfending me Krammerhead. I'm sure you'd appreciate it.

Well you didn't really need defending. You posted an idea that you thought would help Canadian soccer on the Canadian section of this board. Even had you posted it on the USA section it would not been trolling.