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Zman Gunner
07 Dec 2005, 07:46 AM
This Pot is the key one from a US 2nd round qualification perspective. With Serbia moved into the Special Pot - the choices are Croatia, Czech Republic, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Sweden, Switzerland, & Ukraine.
My ranking:
1. Netherlands
2. Czech Republic
3. Sweden
4. Portugal
5. Croatia
6. Poland
7. Ukraine
8. Switzerland
Vinnievin
07 Dec 2005, 07:51 AM
This would be my list:
1. Netherlands
2. Portugal
3. Czech Republic
4. Sweden
5. Ukraine
6. Croatia
7. Switzerland
8. Poland
appoo
07 Dec 2005, 07:53 AM
Netherlands
Czech Republic
Portugal
Swededn
I am not familiar with sides below them to rank them
nickeanderson
07 Dec 2005, 07:56 AM
Swe
Cze
Hol
Cro
Por
Ukr
Pol
Swi
Colm
07 Dec 2005, 08:21 AM
Hollland
Portugal
Sweden
Czech Republic
Croatia
Ukraine
Poland
Switzerland
Oscar
07 Dec 2005, 08:55 AM
Sweden
Netherlands
Portugal
Chzech Republic
Poland
Croatia
Switzerland
Ukraine
Portista69
07 Dec 2005, 11:47 AM
Portugal
Netherlands
Czech Republic
Sweden
Croatia
Ukraine
Poland
Switzerland
Franchise
07 Dec 2005, 11:53 AM
I posted on the Pot 4 teams about this subject as well, but the ELO rankings for Pot 2 are as follows:
Netherlands (2nd place globally; 1959 points), Czechia (5; 1931), Portugal (9; 1880), Sweden (10; 1874), Croatia (13; 1834), Poland (16; 1812), Switzerland (28; 1747), Ukraine (29; 1739).
These rankings, strangely enough, seem to create pairs of teams that are virtually indistinguishable in quality: Dutch and Czechs, Portugese and Swedes, Croats and Poles, Swiss and Ukrainians. Not an afficianado of Euro soccer, by any means, so others may be better at interpreting this data and making adjustments to it, but I find starting with results from a trustworthy statistical method is a better place to begin than just using perceptions. (With the ideal method being knowledgeable individuals interpreting and adjusting the raw data.)
PanchoM
07 Dec 2005, 11:58 AM
This Pot is the key one from a US 2nd round qualification perspective. With Serbia moved into the Special Pot - the choices are Croatia, Czech Republic, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Sweden, Switzerland, & Ukraine.
My ranking:
1. Netherlands
2. Czech Republic
3. Sweden
4. Portugal
5. Croatia
6. Poland
7. Ukraine
8. Switzerland
This is just an example of how difficult it is to advance in the Cup .
Any team with ambitions for a 4th game must get at least 1 point from one of these teams . I know Portugal had a lousy WC in '02 , but that wont be the case always .
spoonman
07 Dec 2005, 12:26 PM
Hollland
Czech Republic
Sweden
Portugal
Switzerland
Croatia
Poland
Ukraine
Hrvat
07 Dec 2005, 05:02 PM
Holland
Portugal
Czech Rep
Croatia
Sweden
Poland
Ukraine
Switzerland
Smoga
07 Dec 2005, 05:53 PM
Holland
Sweden
Czech
Poland
Ukraine
Croatia
Portugal
Switzerland
catenaccio_L'pool
07 Dec 2005, 07:36 PM
Holland
Portugal
Czech
Croatia
Sweden
Ukraine
Poland
Switzerland
karny9
07 Dec 2005, 07:56 PM
1. Holland
2. Portugal
3. Czech Republic
4. Sweden
5. Poland
6. Croatia
7. Switzerland
8. Ukraine
scaryice
07 Dec 2005, 08:00 PM
1-Netherlands
2-Portugal
3-Czech Republic
4-Sweden
There is a big gap here. We need one of the bottom four teams.
5-Croatia
6-Poland
7-Ukraine
8-Switzerland
karny9
07 Dec 2005, 08:08 PM
i agree that the gap between 1-4 and 5-8 is VERY large
catenaccio_L'pool
07 Dec 2005, 09:15 PM
4-Sweden
There is a big gap here. We need one of the bottom four teams.
5-Croatia
Qualifications for WC:
Sweden-Croatia 0-1
Croatia-Sweden 1-0 (had Sweden won, they would have been 1st)
What big gap???
And also
SUI-FRA 1-1
FRA-SUI 0-0
UKR beat out Denmark, Turkey and Greece to be here
Sagy
07 Dec 2005, 10:47 PM
My ranking:
1. Netherlands
2. Czech Republic
3. Sweden
4. Portugal
5. Croatia
6. Ukraine
7. Poland
8. Switzerland
swedetech
08 Dec 2005, 03:11 AM
Sweden
Holland
Croatia
Czech
Portugal
Poland
Ukraine
Switzerland
ExpatSwede
08 Dec 2005, 02:17 PM
Qualifications for WC:
Sweden-Croatia 0-1
Croatia-Sweden 1-0 (had Sweden won, they would have been 1st)
What big gap???
Soccer/Football is not a sport where one can always say that if team A > B and B > C, then it is always true that A > C. Not so...
Different styles of play for each team make some teams easier than others. It seems pretty clear that Sweden has a hard time playing Croatia. Perhaps it is also taken into account that Croatia drew several games against weaker competition, whereas Sweden was much more effective at shutting out "minnows".
Besides, were it not for a disallowed goal and a bizarre handball, both SWE-CRO games would have ended in fair draws. :)