FIFA, like the U.N. is corrupt! Must be reformed!!!

[aj2lagop]

Transparancy! We need to demad this. Why is everything so secretive with FIFA ??? Is Kofee Annan and Ben Savon in charge of FIFA too?? No sorry, its Kofee's good buddy Sepp Blatter..What about all the referee match fixing scandals over the last year?? How about Racism and the blind eye to neo- Nazi/hooligan problem? How come the host country always has an easy road in the world cup? What about rumors of shoe comapanies influencing play (ie Brasil in France)...Rumors of heated ping pong balls help in their "blind choice" process. I am sure there are many mishandled issues that we could all come up with that could demonstrate who thoroughly lacking soccer's governing body really is.

Is is clear that the draw is not about fair play. They want their PREDETERMINED choices to progress the way they want to see the outcome, that is why Brasil and Germany get to play in Berlin, Munich and Dortmund. This is not a random draw, the way it should be in order to make it truly a fair process. Just the FIFA rankings demonstrate how bogus FIFA really is. We beat Mexico and fall in the rankings??? Does not make any sense.

I suspect FIFA wants to make the United States look bad on the world stage so they can show us how evil we are. The FIFA body is prejudiced against any soccer country that is not from Europe. That is why they put such underachieving nations like England and Spain ahead of us.

I hope FIFA has some b*lls and puts us in Germany's group so we can humiliate the host country on its own soil. Bounce out the host nation in the first round means loss of revenue for FIFA...

Demand a transparant process now!!!

[fhsol76]

. That is why they put such underachieving nations like England and Spain ahead of us.


i love the US and all and we definitly should be seeded over Mexico but not England need i remind you how they came in to our own country with their B squad at best and totally kicked our @sses. They deserve to be ahead of us

[ty webb]

This post is laughable. Do you really think FIFA is against the US?

We don't deserve to be a top seed. The games will be played on the field so who cares if we are a top seed. Also, I would not say Spain and England are underachievers. I think we made our first WC in 1990 in what almost 50 years. And, I would not hope to meet Germany in the first round. The host always advances. We advanced out of bracket play with college players in 1994. So, I would wish for another top seed.

Okay, you say FIFA is prejudice against any country outside of Europe. Since, you list Flamengo as a favorite team you should already know this. The following countries outside of Europe have one more than half of the total WC's (9). And, Brazil is heavy favorites to win another.
Urugauy 2
Argentina 2
Brazil 5

I don't see where this conspiracy exists.......

[dmike]

Don't be such a spazzoo aj2. The time will come when we shall earn our seed. FIFA is a business and they will do the necessary to make sure the WC is a profit. Its a no brainer to have the host country and the defending champs play in the biggest stadiums. WHY THE ******** would the host country play in their smallest venues cause some random draw??

USA was close to getting a seed, 98 WC ruined it but who cares. We do good in 06 which would combine with 02 and our argument for a seed would be stronger for Africa 2010. Mexico was picked cause they partipated in Copa America & Confed and had good wins vs ranked teams ( Brazil & Argentina). You don't get ranked so high for going to 3 straight WC and losing in 2nd rd. Maybe we should stop being chicken shits and travel to this extra tournaments next time.

[CbR]

dude,,,the whole freaken world is corrupt

[soccerfan]

dude,,,the whole freaken world is corrupt


right on

unfortunately America is too, political correctness is killing our country, everyone is fake they wont tell you what they think but tell you what they think you want to hear

[scaryice]

Germany and Brazil were placed in those two groups because they will play in the biggest stadiums. Nothing to do with the sporting side of things.

[SUSIE-Q]

dude,,,the whole freaken world is corrupt

blame on president GWB.

[PaulGascoigne]

i love the US and all and we definitly should be seeded over Mexico but not England need i remind you how they came in to our own country with their B squad at best and totally kicked our @sses. They deserve to be ahead of us

Dude, first, they didn't "totally kick our asses." And second and more importantly, you would justify a word cup seeding based on that? Excuse me while I laugh my ass off... :D

[geordienation]

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[REV IT UP]

Team MP W D L GF GA Pts
USA 10 7 1 2 16 6 22
Mexico 10 7 1 2 22 9 22
Costa Rica 10 5 1 4 15 14 16
Trinidad and Tobago 10 4 1 5 10 15 13
Guatemala 10 3 2 5 16 18 11
Panama 10 0 2 8 4 21 2


Our name is above mexico, and everytime we play them i see us getting better and better against them. We are the best in CONCACAF, and i truely think that, not because I'm a USA fan, but becasue the our team has shown that they can compete and win against mexico, they are over rated, and fro them to get the seed over us is rediculous.

RRREV IT UP

[CbR]

right on

unfortunately America is too, political correctness is killing our country, everyone is fake they wont tell you what they think but tell you what they think you want to hear

ppl dont tell you what they think b/c they cant think for themselves, they just regergitate what they hear on tv/radio......i presonally blame this whole mess on Mike Burns and the rule which doesnt allow goal keepers to handle passes from throw-ins

[Saeyddthe]

...but mostly Mike Burns.

[The Big Ticket]

Unilateralism is the only course of action.

We'll start our own World Series of Soccer. The team that wins will be the World Champion.

[aj2lagop]

All I am saying is that FIFA does its business in secrecy. And with regards to is World Cup draw, it is done by people choosing teams according to a set of rules they decide. So there is the possibility of fraud. The process is not a random process at all. Their rules on how they choose teams seems to change each year. Now we find out, only the past two World Cups get serious attention. Lets look at the past few World Cups draws for the United States.

2002 - US, South Korea (host nation), Portugal, Poland

1998 - US, Iran, Germany, Yugoslavia

1994 - US, Switzerland, Romania, Colombia

1990 - US, Italy (host nation), Austria, Czechoslovakia

To me this seems a bit odd on how we always seemed to get paired in very tough divisions. Even when we were the host country, we did not have that easy a road to travel. And whoever advanced would face Brasil. Two of the last four world cups we have been paired in the host country's group. And I believe we have a good chance of that happening again. In my opinion, whoever chooses these groups, does not want the United States to have success in the World Cup. Which is strange, because why wouldn't you want the most prosperous nation with a wealth of superior atheletes whose national program is on the rise to find success in the tournament?? The only explanation I can see is bias. And to say that cannot happen, or does not happen is to me nieve. Since the revelations that referees have been fixing matches in Germany and in Brasil, means that could happen anywhere, and probably happens much more frequently that we realize. If this can happen, why couldnt the idea of FIFA tilting the draw to favor the teams that it wants to see have success.

[CbR]

its b/c we have some black players

[Davids26]

All I am saying is that FIFA does its business in secrecy. And with regards to is World Cup draw, it is done by people choosing teams according to a set of rules they decide. So there is the possibility of fraud. The process is not a random process at all. Their rules on how they choose teams seems to change each year. Now we find out, only the past two World Cups get serious attention. Lets look at the past few World Cups draws for the United States.

Even if they took into account the past three World Cups, the same 8 teams that are seeds would still be seeds...


2002 - US, South Korea (host nation), Portugal, Poland


Even though Arena claims this was one of the toughest groups in the tournament, most US fans were hoping we'd get drawn into South Korea's group, because they were seen as the worst of the seeded teams in 2002. Poland, although first to qualify out of Europe was not seen as that strong of a team, and Portugal was seen as the strongest. Well that group didn't go as planned at all. We beat the strongest team, tied who we though would likely be the weakest and lost to a team we thought we should have beaten. Yet we still made it to the second round. SO WHAT THE ******** ARE YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT HERE?


1998 - US, Iran, Germany, Yugoslavia


This entire draw was probably one of the most balanced ever in the history of the World Cup. The Group of death was considered to be Group D which consisted of Spain, Nigeria, Paraguay, and Bulgaria. Think about who were thinking of as the Group of Death today! If you think the draw was the reason behind us doing so poorly in '98, I just have to wonder where you were back then?


1994 - US, Switzerland, Romania, Colombia


This was a hard group? Hmmmm. No Brazil, Argentina, Germany, Italy, Spain, Holland...England and France didn't even qualify.


1990 - US, Italy (host nation), Austria, Czechoslovakia


Not sure how they did the draw back in 1990, but it was obviously different as there are three Euro teams in this group. But so what? It didn't really matter who we played back then, there was very little chance that we would have advanced to the next round with the team we fielded....


To me this seems a bit odd on how we always seemed to get paired in very tough divisions.

Believe me we don't.

2002 - Group F: Argentina, Nigeria, England Sweden.
- Group A: France, Denmark, Uruguay, Senegal
- Group G: Italy, Mexico, Croatia, Ecuador
- Group E: Germany, Cameroon, Ireland, Saudi Arabia
These were all arguably tougher than the US' group in '02.

1998 - Group D: Nigeria, Paraguay, Spain, Bulgaria
- Group E: Mexico, Holland, Belgium, South Korea
- Group F: England, Romania, Colombia, Tunisia
These were all arguably tougher than the US' group in '98.

1994 - Group E: Mexico, Ireland, Italy, Norway
Most of these groups were very well balanced, but the US' was hard at all...


Even when we were the host country, we did not have that easy a road to travel. And whoever advanced would face Brasil. Two of the last four world cups we have been paired in the host country's group. And I believe we have a good chance of that happening again. In my opinion, whoever chooses these groups, does not want the United States to have success in the World Cup. Which is strange, because why wouldn't you want the most prosperous nation with a wealth of superior atheletes whose national program is on the rise to find success in the tournament?? The only explanation I can see is bias. And to say that cannot happen, or does not happen is to me nieve. Since the revelations that referees have been fixing matches in Germany and in Brasil, means that could happen anywhere, and probably happens much more frequently that we realize. If this can happen, why couldnt the idea of FIFA tilting the draw to favor the teams that it wants to see have success.

Watch the ********ing draw on Friday. It's pretty hard to rig it the way they do it unless they have a magical hand in the box that they pull from...

[Yankee_Devil]

You know as bad as FIFA is well nothing compares to the UN in corruption.

[CbR]

You know as bad as FIFA is well nothing compares to the UN in corruption.


Enron? Exxon-mobile posting 10 billion profits while gas prices skyrocketed this summer? Halliburton govt contracts? Beer prices at giants stadium?

Leave the UN and Fifa alone,,if you're gonna pick on them then pick on everyone

[Craig P]

I really shouldn't dignify this post with a response, but I'm going to do so anyway.

Is is clear that the draw is not about fair play. They want their PREDETERMINED choices to progress the way they want to see the outcome, that is why Brasil and Germany get to play in Berlin, Munich and Dortmund.
In what sense does this impede fair play? In no way is the composition of the group for either team set. Like it or not, this is a commercial venture, so economic considerations (i.e. giving the host and the holders the marquee matchups) will enter into things. And you can hardly argue that it's not transparent, when you consider that the last World Cup with a single host followed the same procedure.