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counterattack
04 Dec 2005, 11:17 AM
Here, let's make this easy and for everyone:

Here are Kicker Magazine's Draw Predicitons:

#1 seeds: Brazil, Germany, Spain, Argentina, Italy, England, Mexico, France.

#2 seeds: Netherlands, USA, South Korea, Sweden, Croatia, Costa Rica, Paraguay, Japan.

#3 seeds: Portugal, Czech Republic, Iran, Poland, Saudi Arabia, Serbia & Montenegro, Tunisia, Ecuador.

#4 seeds: Switzerland, Ivory Coast, Ukraine, Trinidad & Tobago, Australia, Ghana, Angola, Togo.

Now, draw up your own groups and post them here. No contest, no geeks, no bs. Just football.

Here are mine:

Group 1. Brazil, Sweden, Tunisia, Australia
Group 2. Germany, Costa Rica, Saudi Arabia, Switzerland
Group 3. Spain, Netherlands, Ecuador, TnT
Group 4. Argentina, Croatia, Portugal, Ghana
Group 5. Italy, USA, Tunisia, Ukriane
Group 6. England, South Korea, Iran, Togo
Group 7, Mexico, Japan, Portugal, Ivory Coast
Group 8, France, Paraguay, Poland, Ghana.

My goals, like FIFA, is to make sure Brazil, England and Germany get through, give the Spanish and the Italians a hard time, and regional balance in each group. No real group of death, but Group 5 is really close to one.

Ombak
04 Dec 2005, 11:23 AM
Kicker's wrong. Their pots are nonsense. FIFA has recently stated that the pots will be geographical, not according to rankings (aside form the seeds of course), confirming that kicker was just guessing and did a pretty bad job of that.

persian-parsa
04 Dec 2005, 12:41 PM
Here, let's make this easy and for everyone:

Here are Kicker Magazine's Draw Predicitons:

#1 seeds: Brazil, Germany, Spain, Argentina, Italy, England, Mexico, France.

#2 seeds: Netherlands, USA, South Korea, Sweden, Croatia, Costa Rica, Paraguay, Japan.

#3 seeds: Portugal, Czech Republic, Iran, Poland, Saudi Arabia, Serbia & Montenegro, Tunisia, Ecuador.

#4 seeds: Switzerland, Ivory Coast, Ukraine, Trinidad & Tobago, Australia, Ghana, Angola, Togo.

Now, draw up your own groups and post them here. No contest, no geeks, no bs. Just football.

Here are mine:

Group 1. Brazil, Sweden, Tunisia, Australia
Group 2. Germany, Costa Rica, Saudi Arabia, Switzerland
Group 3. Spain, Netherlands, Ecuador, TnT
Group 4. Argentina, Croatia, Portugal, Ghana
Group 5. Italy, USA, Tunisia, Ukriane
Group 6. England, South Korea, Iran, Togo
Group 7, Mexico, Japan, Portugal, Ivory Coast
Group 8, France, Paraguay, Poland, Ghana.

My goals, like FIFA, is to make sure Brazil, England and Germany get through, give the Spanish and the Italians a hard time, and regional balance in each group. No real group of death, but Group 5 is really close to one.

Group 6 can't happen... South Korea and Iran are both from AFC.

counterattack
04 Dec 2005, 12:57 PM
Kicker's wrong. Their pots are nonsense. FIFA has recently stated that the pots will be geographical, not according to rankings (aside form the seeds of course), confirming that kicker was just guessing and did a pretty bad job of that.

Nice work, ***edited by mod****

DjTannerr
04 Dec 2005, 01:20 PM
Nice work****edited by mod******


Woah... dude. Ombak's right.... Kicker is wrong. Here:
FIFA Draw News (http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=273760&page=1&pp=15)

The only seeds are #1 seeds, based on a seeding formula (http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=270432). The rest of the 24 teams, like FIFA says (http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/051202/1/5g1d.html), will be put into pots based on geography, believed to mean there are no #2 seeds, #3 seeds, or #4 seeds based on skill. This makes the draw more exciting because anything can happen: it could be Brazil, USA, Holland and Iran.

Also, as someone else pointed out, like the FIFA article explains, teams from the same confederation cannot play against each other usnless it's UEFA in group stage (Iran cannot be grouped with South Korea).

I mean... unless Kicker knows something that everyone else doesn't know. This is how it was done last year and evidence exists to believe it will be done the same way. It's the luck of the draw.

MoRado
05 Dec 2005, 06:32 PM
Here, let's make this easy and for everyone:

Here are Kicker Magazine's Draw Predicitons:

#1 seeds: Brazil, Germany, Spain, Argentina, Italy, England, Mexico, France.

#2 seeds: Netherlands, USA, South Korea, Sweden, Croatia, Costa Rica , Paraguay, Japan.

#3 seeds: Portugal, Czech Republic, Iran, Poland, Saudi Arabia, Serbia & Montenegro, Tunisia, Ecuador.

#4 seeds: Switzerland, Ivory Coast, Ukraine, Trinidad & Tobago, Australia, Ghana, Angola, Togo.

Now, draw up your own groups and post them here. No contest, no geeks, no bs. Just football.

Here are mine:

Group 1. Brazil, Sweden, Tunisia, Australia
Group 2. Germany, Costa Rica, Saudi Arabia, Switzerland
Group 3. Spain, Netherlands, Ecuador, TnT
Group 4. Argentina, Croatia, Portugal, Ghana
Group 5. Italy, USA, Tunisia, Ukriane
Group 6. England, South Korea, Iran, Togo
Group 7, Mexico, Japan, Portugal, Ivory Coast
Group 8, France, Paraguay, Poland, Ghana.

My goals, like FIFA, is to make sure Brazil, England and Germany get through, give the Spanish and the Italians a hard time, and regional balance in each group. No real group of death, but Group 5 is really close to one.

I dont think that is true but i'll love to be in that group.

Serb
05 Dec 2005, 06:53 PM
Here, let's make this easy and for everyone:

Here are Kicker Magazine's Draw Predicitons:

#1 seeds: Brazil, Germany, Spain, Argentina, Italy, England, Mexico, France.

#2 seeds: Netherlands, USA, South Korea, Sweden, Croatia, Costa Rica, Paraguay, Japan.

#3 seeds: Portugal, Czech Republic, Iran, Poland, Saudi Arabia, Serbia & Montenegro, Tunisia, Ecuador.

#4 seeds: Switzerland, Ivory Coast, Ukraine, Trinidad & Tobago, Australia, Ghana, Angola, Togo.

Now, draw up your own groups and post them here. No contest, no geeks, no bs. Just football.

Here are mine:

Group 1. Brazil, Sweden, Tunisia, Australia
Group 2. Germany, Costa Rica, Saudi Arabia, Switzerland
Group 3. Spain, Netherlands, Ecuador, TnT
Group 4. Argentina, Croatia, Portugal, Ghana
Group 5. Italy, USA, Tunisia, Ukriane
Group 6. England, South Korea, Iran, Togo
Group 7, Mexico, Japan, Portugal, Ivory Coast
Group 8, France, Paraguay, Poland, Ghana.

My goals, like FIFA, is to make sure Brazil, England and Germany get through, give the Spanish and the Italians a hard time, and regional balance in each group. No real group of death, but Group 5 is really close to one.


you have Ghana in two gorups.

Serb
05 Dec 2005, 06:55 PM
Here, let's make this easy and for everyone:

Here are Kicker Magazine's Draw Predicitons:

#1 seeds: Brazil, Germany, Spain, Argentina, Italy, England, Mexico, France.

#2 seeds: Netherlands, USA, South Korea, Sweden, Croatia, Costa Rica, Paraguay, Japan.

#3 seeds: Portugal, Czech Republic, Iran, Poland, Saudi Arabia, Serbia & Montenegro, Tunisia, Ecuador.

#4 seeds: Switzerland, Ivory Coast, Ukraine, Trinidad & Tobago, Australia, Ghana, Angola, Togo.

Now, draw up your own groups and post them here. No contest, no geeks, no bs. Just football.

Here are mine:

Group 1. Brazil, Sweden, Tunisia, Australia
Group 2. Germany, Costa Rica, Saudi Arabia, Switzerland
Group 3. Spain, Netherlands, Ecuador, TnT
Group 4. Argentina, Croatia, Portugal, Ghana
Group 5. Italy, USA, Tunisia, Ukriane
Group 6. England, South Korea, Iran, Togo
Group 7, Mexico, Japan, Portugal, Ivory Coast
Group 8, France, Paraguay, Poland, Ghana.

My goals, like FIFA, is to make sure Brazil, England and Germany get through, give the Spanish and the Italians a hard time, and regional balance in each group. No real group of death, but Group 5 is really close to one.
And in what way, exactly, do Costa Rica, South Korea, Japan, Croatia, and Paraguay deserva a 2nd seed over Portugal and THe Cezch Republic?

jec1
05 Dec 2005, 07:00 PM
my exact same thoughts? fifa doesnt know how to assembly things not even a desk....

lets hope they dont screw up the draw this friday 3:00pm on sportsnet.