CONCACAF Abroad

[Martin Fischer]

I have tried to do a list of every CONCACAF player in a decent European league. My list is below, after the summary information regarding how may players each country has in Europe. The country, club, league, age, games and goals for each player is specified.

TOTALS:
Canada – 24
USA – 20
Jamaica – 17
T&T - 9
Costa Rica - 8
Honduras – 6
Mexico - 2
St. Vincent – 1
Panama – 1
Grenada – 1
Guatemala – 1
Bermuda - 1


FORWARDS[Jamaica – 7, USA – 3,Canada – 4, T&T – 3, Honduras – 2, Costa Rica – 2, St. Vincent – 1, Panama – 1, Grenada – 1, Guatemala - 1]:

Ricardo Fuller (Jamaica), Preston North End, Engish 1, 23 years old, 18 games, 9 goals
Tomas Radzinski (Canada), Everton, English Premier, 29, 21 games, 6 goals
Deon Burton (Jamaica), Portmouth, English 1, 26, 17 games, 6 goals
Rodney Jack (St. Vicent), Crewe Alexandria, English 2, 30, 21 games, 5 goals
Shawn Goater (Bermuda), Manchester City, English Premier, 32, 16 games, 5 goals
Joel Macnuff (Jamaica) Wimbleton, English 1, 21, 25 games, 4 goals
Carlo Corazzini (Canada), Oldham United, English 2, 31, 24 games, 4 goals
Dwight Yorke (T&T), Blackburn Rovers, English Premier, 31, 19 games, 4 goals
David Suazo (Honduras), Caliguiri Serie B, 23, 16 games, 4 goals
Julio Dely Valdes (Panama), Malaga, La Liga, 35, 15 games, 4 goals
Jason Robards (Grenada), West Bromwich Albion, English Premier, 24, 21 games, 3 goals
Stern John (T&T), Brimingham City, English Premier, 26, 17 games, 3 goals
Dwight Pezzarossi (Guatemala), Racing Ferrol, Spanish 2, 23, 14 games, 3 goals
Kevin Lisbie (Jamaica), Charlton, English Premier, 24, 15 games, 2 goals
Anthony Rogier (T&T), Reading, English 1, 31, 18 games, 2 goals
Jovan Kirovski (USA), Birmingham City, English Premier, 26, 10 games, 2 goals
Trevor Benjamin (Jamaica), Leicheister City, England 1, 23, 17 games, 1 goal
Ronald Gomez (Costa Rica), OFI, Greece 1, 27, 11 games, 1 goal
Barry Hayles (Jamaica), Fullham, English Premier, 30, 9 games, 1 goal
Marcus Gayle (Jamaica), Watford, English 1, 32, 18 games
Paul Pescolido (Canada), Sheffield United, English 1, 31, 9 games
Wyn Belotte (Canada), Angelholme, Sweden, 18, 7 games
Winston Parks (Costa Rica), Ascoli, Serie B, 3 games
Conor Casey (USA), Hannover, Bundesliga, 1 game
Carlos Pavon (Honduras), Napoli, Serie B, 1 game
Joe Max Moore (USA), Everton, English Premier
Paolo Wanchope (Costa Rica), Manchester City, English Premier

WIDE MIDFIELDERS[Canada – 6, USA – 5, Jamaica – 3, T&T –2, Honduras - 1, Costa Rica –1 ]:

Richard Langley (Jamaica), Queens Park Rangers, English 2, 23, 21 games, 3 goals
David Xausa (Canada), Livingston, Scotland, 26, 18 games, 3 goals
Ricardo Gardner (Jamaica), Bolton, English Premier, 24, 15 games, 2 goals
Ernie Stweart (USA), NAC Breda, Holland, 33, 15 games, 2 goals
Anthony Sanneh (USA), Nurenberg, Bundesliga, 31, 15 games, 2 goals
Jacob Thomas (USA), Eintracht, Bundesliga 2, 25, 9 gagmes, 2 goals
John Thorrington (USA), Huddersfield Town, England 2, 23, 19 games, 1 goal
Eddie Lewis (USA), Preston North End, England 1, 28, 18 games, 1 goal
Ian Hume (Canada), Trammere Rovers, England 2, 19, 13 games, 1 goal
Jerren Nixon (T&T), St. Gallen, Switzerland, 29, 3 games, 1 goal
Ante Jazic (Canada), Rapid Vienna, Austria, 26, 21 games
Paul Staltieri (Canada), Werder Bremen, Bundesliga, 25, 17 games
Marco Reda (Canada), Songdal, Norway, 13 games
Jamie Lawrence (Jamaica), Bradford City, England 1, 8 games
Nial Thompson (Canada), Wycombe, English 2, 28, 3 games
Evans Wise (T&T), Wacker, Bundesliga 2, 29, 2 games
Maynor Suazo (Honduras), SV Salzburg, Austria
Wilson Munoz (Costa Rica), OFI, Greece


CENTRAL MIDFIELDERS[Canada – 4, USA – 3, Costa Rica – 3, T&T – 3, Jamaica – 3, Mexico - 1]:


Alonso Solis (Costa Rica), Brann, Norway, 24, 14 games, 4 goals
Fernando Aguiar (Canada), Leiria, Portugal, 30, 12 games, 3 goals
Robbie Russel (USA), Songdahl, Norway, 24 games, 1 goal
Marc Birham (Canada), Queens Park Rangers, England 2, 24, 15 games, 1 goal
Fizroy Simpson (T&T), Walsall, England 1, 32, 15 games, 1 goal
Mauricio Solis (Costa Rica), OFI, Greece, 30, 11 games, 1 goal
Stefan Migloriazi (USA), Swindon Town, England 2, 25, 19 games
Claudio Reyna (USA), Sunderland, English Premier, 29, 11 games
Darrell Powell (Jamaica), Birmingham City, English Premier, 31, 10 games
Julio DeGuzman (Canada), Hanover 96, Bundesliga, 21, 9 games
Walter Centeno (Costa Rica), AEK Athens, Greece, 28, 8 games
Russel Lapatay (T&T), Glasgow Rangers, Scotland, 34, 7 games
Jason Bent (Canada), Plymouth Argile, English 2, 25, 6 games
Gerrado Torrado (Mexico), Sevilla, La Liga, 23, 2 games
Jermaine Johnson (Jamaica), Bolton, English Premier, 22, 1 game
Robert Scarlett (Jamaica), Spartak Moscow, Russia, 23, 1 game
Brent Rahim (T&T), West Ham United, English Premier, 24


WIDE DEFENDERS [Canada – 6, USA – 5, Honduras - 1]:

Chris Ponziak (Canada), Orebro, Sweden, 21, 23 games, 1 goal
Michael Kluwoski (Canada), La Louvierre, Belgium, 21, 17 games, 1 goal
Jim Brennan (Canada), Notingham Forrest, England 1, 25, 26 games
Mark Rogers (Canada), Wycombe, English 2, 23, 18 games
Steve Cherundolo (USA), Hannover 96, Bundesliga, 23, 17 games
Cory Gibbs (USA), St. Pauli, Bundesliga 2, 22, 10 games
Richard Hastings (Canada), GAK, Austria, 25, 9 games
Frankie Hejduk (USA), St. Gallen, Switzerland, 28, 7 games
Gregg Vanney (USA), Bastia, France, 28, 6 games
Julio Suazo (Honduras), SV Salzburg, Austria, 24, 6 games
John O’Brien (USA), Ajax, Holland, 25, 5 games


DEFENDERS: [USA – 4, Jamaica – 4, Canada – 3, Costa Rica – 2, Honduras – 2, Mexico - 1]

Jason DeVos (Canada), Wigan Athletic, England 2, 29, 24 games, 5 goals
Daniel Imhoff (Canada), St. Gallen, Switzerland, 25, 21 games, 3 goals
Kevin McKenna (Canada), Hearts, Scotland, 22, 22 games, 2 goals
Darren Moore (Jamaica), West Bromwich Albion, English Premier, 24, 20 games, 1 goal
Rafael Marquez (Mexico), Monoco, France, 23, 13 games, 1 goal
Frank Sinclair (Jamaica), Leicheister City, England 1, 31, 19 games
Gilberto Martinez (Costa Rica), Brescia, Serie A, 23, 15 games
Mauricio Wright (Costa Rica), AEK Athens, Greece, 32, 11 games
Danny Maddox (Jamaica), Shefield Wednsday, 35, 10 games
Greg Berhalter (USA), Energie Cottubus, Bundesliga, 29, 7 games
Samuel Cabrero (Honduras), Udinese, Serie A, 28, 4 games
David Regis (USA), Troyes, France, 34, 4 games
Grover Gibson (USA), FSV Mainz, Bundesliga 2, 24, 4 games
Michael Johnson (Jamaica), Birmingham City, English Premier, 29, 2 games
Charles Kazalauskas (USA), NEC, Holland, 20
Ivan Guerrero (Honduras), Coventry City, England 1, 25


GOALIES [USA – 3, T&T – 1, Canada –1]:

Shaka Hislop (T&T), Portsmouth, England 1, 33, 26 games
Brad Friedel (USA), Blackburn Rovers, English Premier, 31, 20 games
Kasey Keller (USA), Tottenham, English Premier, 33, 20 games
Marcus Hahnemann (USA), Reading City, English 1, 30, 19 games
Lars Hisrshfield (Canada), Tottenham, English Premier, 24

[Canadian_Supporter]

A few more Canadian players have signed on with Swedish clubs over the past few weeks I believe...

I will see if I can find the info...

I believe Atiba Hutchinson has now signed with Osters IF in Sweden.

Here is a list of Canadian players who are abroad...

http://www.canadian-soccer.com/net/lists/abroad.htm

Shaun Goater plays for Man City, and he is from Bermuda.

http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/foot/ukie/1191.html

[art]

Good stuff Martin, thanks...of course you can substitute Brian McBride for Joe Max Moore at Everton, and Earnie Stewart isn't with NAC Breda anymore, he's coming to MLS.

And Stefani Migliorzani is now with Swindon Town (Eng 2).

[Martin Fischer]

Changes made to original list:

1. Corrected Migs information
2. Added Goater
3. Added Richard Hastings and Wyn Belote for the Canadians.

I did not add those Canadians who are on Reserves, youth or loans. Nor did I add the Canadians who play for another country.

My list is accurate only through December 31, 2002. After that, I will add new entries such as McBride though the list will continue to contain those that were rostered in Europe for part of the 2002/2003 season like Stewart and Moore.

[Canadian_Supporter]

Originally posted by Martin Fischer

2. Added Goater


To go to the 'Shaun Goater Appreciation Society' page...

http://www.shaungoater.co.uk/

:)

[Captain Canuck]

Just a few notes on Canada. Niall Thompson is no longer with Wycombe (though Mark Rogers still is). Canadian youngster Terry Dunfield is now playing first team with Bury in the English 3rd Division - he's a central midfielder. Martin Nash (formerly of Rochster Raging Rhinos in the A-league) has just signed with Macclesfield Town in the English 3rd Division - he's normally a wide-left midfielder. Rob Friend is a young Canuck striker who just signed with Moss in the Norwegian First Division. Adam Braz is a defender who just signed with Vasteras (sic?) in the Swedish First Division. To confirm what Canadian Supporter stated, 19-year old Atiba Hutchison has signed with Osters in the Swedish Premiere League. He is a central defensive midfielder (who I think will get called to play against the US on the 18th).

These are first-team players. There are a whole bunch more in the youth ranks or reserves, but I guess that's for another list.

[Captain Canuck]

One more Canadian national team member that I don't think is there -midfielder Tam Nsaliwa plays first team for FC Saarbrucken in Germany.

Incidentally, Hume & Xausa's are strikers, Reda is a central defender, there's no "i" at the end of Corrazzin, and its Julian De Guzman, rather than "Julio". (Sorry if that comes across as being nit-picky).

[efernandez9]

just give me the ones in la liga, il calccio and EPL(manchester- liverpool and arsenal or chelsea)

the rest is rubish....no ofense intended.

lets look for meaninful competition, not just numbers

panama: dely valdez (malaga)
mex: torrado(sevillas' pine bench)
who else?

[LMvCP]

Originally posted by efernandez9
just give me the ones in la liga, il calccio and EPL(manchester- liverpool and arsenal or chelsea)

the rest is rubish....no ofense intended.

lets look for meaninful competition, not just numbers

panama: dely valdez (malaga)
mex: torrado(sevillas' pine bench)
who else?

Torrado was a starter before the his injury. Up until a month or ago, Torrado was still injured. And he has been starting every game since.

[TopDogg]

Originally posted by efernandez9
just give me the ones in la liga, il calccio and EPL(manchester- liverpool and arsenal or chelsea)

the rest is rubish....no ofense intended.

So you consider the Bundesliga and the rest of the EPL rubbish?

Either way, this is CONCACAF Abroad thread, which means all leagues should be accounted for, not just the big teams.

[Wolves_67]

Wow! Thanks.. Nice piece of work.. I knew Canada had many players overseas but no idea it was that many..

[TopDogg]

Originally posted by Wolves_67
Wow! Thanks.. Nice piece of work.. I knew Canada had many players overseas but no idea it was that many..
Well it helps that we don't have a league :D

[Wolves_67]

Originally posted by TopDogg
Well it helps that we don't have a league :D
Well that's true but still I have seen lots of them and they are quality players. How on earth do you develop them all in the cold clime of Canada with so few months to train?
Are they mostly from BC?

[Daniel from Montréal]

Originally posted by Wolves_67
Well that's true but still I have seen lots of them and they are quality players. How on earth do you develop them all in the cold clime of Canada with so few months to train?
Are they mostly from BC?

Well they get April/May-October outdoors and the rest indoor (for coastal provinces, there's more outdoor soccer). Otherwise, many of the players going over to Europe have been part or are part of youth national teams which seem to have 2-3 camps a winter.

[TopDogg]

Originally posted by Wolves_67
Well that's true but still I have seen lots of them and they are quality players. How on earth do you develop them all in the cold clime of Canada with so few months to train?
Are they mostly from BC?
Actually, of all the players named above, the majority of them are from Ontario, with quite a few coming from B.C., some from Alberta and Quebec, and one from Nova Scotia.

This is not surprising, as historically much of the make up of the national team has been from these Ontario (as the most populous province) and B.C. (a traditonal soccer hotbed).

[Wolves_67]

Thanks for all the info.. Just don't let them get so good they knock the US out of a world cup spot someday!
Other than that I wish them all the best even though Canada blew up the Baldwin Brothers!

[TopDogg]

Originally posted by Wolves_67

Other than that I wish them all the best especially since Canada blew up the Baldwin Brothers!
Fixed your post. :D

[Martin Fischer]

A couple of comments.

1. I decided, due to a lack of time, to only go to second divisions for Italy, Germany, France and Spain. I went three levels in England, but not to Division 3 in England.

2. I wait until the site I use confirms someone is on the roster until I add them. That explains some of the new Canadian signings in Scandanavia. If they get in a game, I am sure they will make my list.

3. I don't mean to imply that the Canadians are the best simply because they have more players in Europe. The level of the league and the lack of a domestic alternative are certainly important factors.

[Alex_1]

Originally posted by TopDogg
So you consider the Bundesliga and the rest of the EPL rubbish?



Or just the ones without US/Canada players? ;)

Tough list to come up with. I didn't know there were this many players from the region abroad on decent sides.

[El CHarro_NEgro....]

Originally posted by efernandez9
just give me the ones in la liga, il calccio and EPL(manchester- liverpool and arsenal or chelsea)

the rest is rubish....no ofense intended.

lets look for meaninful competition, not just numbers

panama: dely valdez (malaga)
mex: torrado(sevillas' pine bench)
who else?

Torrado was injured, Marquez will play for Barca soon.