CONCACAF Abroad

[Martin Fischer]

Doesn't that Panamanian defender Baloy (sp?) play in Brazil? Or has he switched to Argentina?

I thought Sam Caballero signed for an Uruguayan club (?)

You forgot Saul Martinez (F), who's playing in China.

Good job--I'll try to think of others later when I have more time.

No problem, but my goal is to simply track those in specified European leagues where I can get data on them easily, making this task practical. Therefore, I limit myself to Europe and the leagues mentioned for that reason.

As for Ydell and Johnson, they don't show up on my data base and thus, I leave them out. Given that I am not aware of them playing even in the Carling Cup, I continue not to count them because, I would have to search the world for every other CONCACAF country's players in order to be fair. I don't have time to do that, so I limit it to those that appear on the database I use unless they have actually got some playing time in some type of official match with the first team. It would also be hard to otherwise distinguish between youth players and reserve players, which would make the list much more difficult to keep up.

[MoRado]

These guys don't appear on my web source for these clubs. Have they actually played or are they new signings, or maybe (not Torres) youth team players?


As far as i know, both mcdonald and garro have played for the major team, perhaps they are U19 guys, so they could be listed as youth players.
The other guy Torres just signed up like 3 weeks ago, so maybe it is not updated
As I said before, congratulations for this excellent job you've done

[Rob Pty]

Doesn't that Panamanian defender Baloy (sp?) play in Brazil? Or has he switched to Argentina?

Baloy played for Gremio, but they were not able to stay in the first division... Now he signed a contract with Atlético Paraenense, league's second place in the last tournament.

[MoRado]

hey Martin one more for your list, FK teplice from Czech republic signed up costarrican forward William sunsing.

[Gordon]

Stathos Kapos (canada wide defender) has transfered to Aris from AEK (both Greek 1st).

Also, probably not too important but Tam Nsaliwa has been played as a central defender this year by Saarbruken a switch from his natural wide defender/midfielder position. Looks to be a permanent move at the club.

For future reference, Jaime Peters, Canada, has signed a first team contract with Ipswich which will not take effect until he turns 18 in May. He should get a game or two this season if my maths are correct. Something to watch down the line. He is a wide midfielder in the various national team set ups and i imagine he will be used that way by Ipswich.

[Martin Fischer]

Now that most leagues are over, here is the final edition of my CONCACAF abroad I cover the leagues specified simply because I can easily obtain data on them {Argentina, Austria, Belgium, Brazil, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, England (3 levels), Finland, France (2 levels), Germany (2 levels), Greece, Hungary, Italy (2 levels), Japan, Holland, Norway, Poland, Portugal (2 levels), Romania, Russia, Scotland, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain (2 levels), Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey and Ukraine}

This list is:

1. Intended to cover the 2004-2005 season, so anybody who played during this period is on the list, even if they are now with another club.

2. You have to get first team time in a league match to make the final version of the list.

The overall totals are as follows - United States – 36, Canada – 26, Jamaica – 25, Trinidad & Tobago – 14, Costa Rica – 5, Honduras – 4, Mexico – 2, Bermuda – 1, Grenada – 1, St. Vincent – 1, Haiti – 1, Martinique – 1, Surinam – 1, Panama - 1.

My personal all CONCACAF team is:

Brad Friedel, USA; Michael Klukowski, Canada; Marvin Andrews, T&T; Gilberto Martinez, Costa Rica; Paul Stalteri, Canada; DeMarcus Beasley, USA; Rafael Marquez, Mexico; Mycah Hyde, Jamaica; Iain Hume, Canada; Jason Roberts, Grenada; Oliveir Occean, Canada.

Most Valuable Player -- Rafa Marquez, Mexico.
Best Newcomer -- Olivier Occean, Canada.

The detailed statistics are as follows.

FORWARDS
[United States – 8, Jamaica – 7, Trinidad & Tobago – 5, Canada – 5, Costa Rica – 3, Bermuda – 1, Grenada – 1, St. Vincent – 1, Honduras – 1, Haiti – 1, Panama – 1, Surinam - 1]
Jason Roberts, Grenada, Wigan Athletic, England Championship, 27, 45 games, 21 goals
Olivier Occean, Canada, Odd Greenland, Norway, 23, 24 games, 14 goals
Barry Hayles, Jamaica, Millwall, England Championship, 33, 36 games, 12 goals
Stern John, Trinidad & Tobago, Coventry City, England Championship, 28, 33 games, 11 goals
Rob Friend, Canada, Molde, Norway, 24, 22 games, 10 goals
Deon Burton, Jamaica, Brentford, England 1, 28, 42 games, 10 goals
Hector Sam, Trinidad & Tobago, Wrexham, England 1, 27, 38 games, 9 goals
Paul Peschisolido, Canada, Derby County, England Championship, 34, 34 games, 8 goals
David Suazo, Honduras, Calgiari, Serie A, 26, 22 games, 7 goals
Wagneau Eloi, Haiti, La Louviere, Belgium, 31, 16 games, 7 goals
Tomasz Radzinski, Canada, Fulham, England Premier, 31, 35 games, 6 goals
Brian McBride, United States, Fulham, England Premier, 32, 31 games, 6 goals
Paolo Wanchope, Costa Rica, Malaga, La Liga, 29, 25 games, 6 goals
Marlon King, Jamaica, Nottingham Forrest, England Championship, 25, 35 games, 5 goals
Trevor Benjamin, Jamaica, Coventry City, England Championship, 26, 27 games, 5 goals
Jason Scotland, Trinidad & Tobago, Dundee United, Scotland, 26, 29 games, 3 goals
Kenny Cooper, United States, Oldham, England 1, 20, 17 games, 3 goals
Ricardo Fuller, Jamaica, Portsmouth, England Premier, 25, 33 games, 2 goals
Conor Casey, United States, FSV Mainz, Bundesliga, 23, 28 games, 2 goals
Jason Euell, Jamaica, Charlton Athletic, England Premier, 27, 26 games, 2 goals
Dwight Yorke, Trinidad & Tobago, Birmingham City, England Premier, 33, 17 games, 2 goals
Winston Parks, Costa Rica, Lokomotiv, Russia, 23, 13 games, 2 goals
Rodney Jack, St. Vincent, Oldham Athletic, England 1, 32, 10 games, 2 goals
Jon Van Buskirk, United States, Erfurht, Bundesliga 2, 33, 19 games, 1 goal
Kevin Lisbie, Jamaica, Charlton Athletic, England Premier, 26, 17 games, 1 goal
Roberto Brown, Panama, SV Salzburg, Austria, 27, 9 games, 1 goal
Marc de Vries, Surinam, Leicester, English Championship, 29, 27 games, 2 goals
Clint Mathis, United States, Hannover 96, Bundesliga, 28, 4 games, 1 goal
Colin Samuel, Trinidad & Tobago, Dundee United, Scotland, 23, 17 games
Shawn Goater, Bermuda, Reading, England Championship, 35, 15 games
Charles Kazlauskas, United States, NEC, Holland, 22, 11 games
William Sunsing, Costa Rica, FC Teplice, Czech Republic, 28, 8 games
Landon Donovan, United States, Bayer Leverkusen, Bundesliga, 23, 7 games
Jemal Johnson, United States, Blackburn, England Premier, 20, 3 games
Ryan Thomson, Canada, Rot-Weiss Essen, Bundesliga2, 22, 1 game

ATTACKING/WIDE MIDFIELDERS
[Jamaica - 9, United States – 5, Canada – 3, Honduras – 2, Trinidad & Tobago – 1, Martinique – 1]

Iain Hume, Canada, Trammere Rovers, England 1, 21, 44 games, 15 goals
Paul Hall, Jamaica, Trammere Rovers, England 1, 32, 48 games, 11 goals
Julio Cesear Leon, Honduras, Catanzaro, Serie B, 25, 23 games, 9 goals
Darren Byfield, Jamaica, Gillingham, England Championship, 28, 38 games, 6 goals
DeMarcus Beasley, United States, PSV Eindhoven, Holland, 23, 29 games, 6 goals
Brian West, United States, Friedrikstadt, Norway, 26, 21 games, 6 goals
Theodore Whitmore, Jamaica, Trammere Rovers, England 1, 33, 34 games, 5 goals
Eddie Lewis, United States, Preston North End, England Championship, 31, 43 games, 4 goals
Jermaine Johnson, Jamaica, Oldham Athletic, England 1, 24, 19 games, 4 goals
Joel McAnuff, Jamaica, Cardiff City, England Championship, 23, 44 games, 2 goals
Richard Langley, Jamaica, Cardiff City, England Championship, 24, 25 games, 2 goals
Patrice Bernier, Canada, Tromso, Norway, 25, 22 games, 2 goals
Micah Hyde, Jamaica, Burnley, England Championship, 30, 38 games, 1 goal
Carlos Edwards, Trinidad & Tobago, Wrexham, England 1, 26, 18 games, 1 goal
Edgar Alvarez, Honduras, Calgiari, Serie A, 25, 15 games, 1 goal
Jamal Campbell-Ryce, Jamaica, Rotherham, England Championship, 21, 38 games
Ricardo Gardner, Jamaica, Bolton Wanderers, England Premier, 26, 33 games
Bobby Convey, United States, Reading, England Championship, 22, 18 games
Charles Coridon, Martinique, Paris St. Germain, France, 32, 19 games, 0 goals
Jim Brennan, Canada, Norwich City, England Premier, 28, 10 games
Peter Philipakos, United States, Olympiakos, Greece, 22, 3 games


HOLDING MIDFIELDERS
[Canada – 5, United States – 2, Jamaica -2, Honduras – 1, Mexico –1,]

Damien Francis, Jamaica, Norwich City, England Premier, 26, 32 games, 7 goals
Fernando Aguiar, Canada, Penafiel, Portugal, 33, 21 games, 3 goals
Claudio Reyna, United States, Manchester City, England Premier, 31, 17 games, 2 goals
Marc Bircham, Canada, Queens Park Rangers, England Championship, 27, 35 games, 1 goal
Maynor Suazo, Honduras, SV Salzburg, Austria, 25, 27 games, 1 goal
Julian De Guzman, Canada, Hannover 96, Bundesliga, 24, 30 games
Atiba Hutchinson, Canada, Helsingborg, Sweden, 21, 24 games
Stefani Miglioranzi, United States, Swindon Town, England 1, 27, 21 games
Adrian Serioux, Canada, Millwall, England Championship, 26, 19 games
Gerardo Torrado, Mexico, Racing Santander, La Liga, 25, 19 games
Jamie Lawrence, Jamaica, Brentford, England 1, 35, 14 games


WIDE DEFENDERS
[United States – 10, Canada – 8, Costa Rica 1]
Steven Cherundolo, United States, Hannover 96, Bundesliga, 26, 32 games, 2 goals
Robbie Russell, United States, Rosenborg, Norway, 25, 23 games, 2 goals
Michael Klukowski, Canada, Club Brugge, Belgium, 23, 22 games, 2 goals
Josh Simpson, Canada, Millwall, England Championship, 22, 30 games, 1 goal
Carlos Bocanegra, United States, Fulham, England Premier, 25, 28 games, 1 goal
Rhian Dodds, Canada, Kilmarnook, Scotland, 26, 8 games, 1 goal
Tam Nsaliwa, Canada, FC Saarbrucken, Bundesliga 2, 23, 33 games
Paul Stalteri, Canada, Werder Bremen, Bundesliga, 27, 32 games
Greg Vanney, United States, Bastia, France, 30, 18 games
Heath Pearce, United States, FC Nordsjaeeland, Denmark, 20, 12 games
Richard Hastings, Canada, Inverness, Scotland, 28, 11 games
Ante Jazic, Canada, Kuban, Russia, 29, 11 games
Wade Barrett, United States, Fredrikstadt, Norway, 28, 10 games
Daniel Torres, Costa Rica, Tromso, Norway, 27, 8 games
Daniel Karbassiyoon, United States, Ipswich Town, England Championship, 20, 5 games
Ramiro Corrales, United States, Ham-Kam, Norway, 28, 4 games
Jonathon Spector, United States, Manchester United, England Premier, 19, 3 games
John O’Brien, United States, Ajax, Holland, 27, 1 game
Stathos Kappos, Canada, Aris, Greece, 25 , 1 game


CENTRAL DEFENDERS
[Jamaica – 6, United States – 5, Trinidad & Tobago – 5, Canada – 3, Costa Rica – 1, Mexico – 1]
Kenwyne Jones, Trinidad & Tobago, Stoke City, England Championship, 20, 22 games, 10 goals
Dennis Lawrence, Trinidad & Tobago, Wrexham, England 1, 30, 44 games, 4 goals
Marvin Andrews, Trinidad & Tobago, Glasgow Rangers, Scotland, 29, 30 games, 4 goals
Jason De Vos, Canada, Ipswich, England Championship, 31, 47 games, 3 goals
Rafael Marquez, Mexico, Barcelona, La Liga, 26, 34 games, 3 goals
Onguchi Onyewu, United States, Standard Liege, Belgium, 23, 32 games, 3 goals
Jake Demerit, United States, Watford, England Championship, 25, 24 games, 3 goals
Ian Cox, Trinidad & Tobago, Gillingham, England Championship, 34, 31 games, 2 goals
Brent Sancho, Trinidad & Tobago, Dundee, Scotland, 28, 27 games, 2 goals
Kevin McKenna, Canada, Hearts, Scotland, 25, 13 games, 2 goals
Ian Goodison, Jamaica, Trammere Rovers, England 1, 32, 46 games, 1 goal
Michael Johnson, Jamaica, Derby County, England Championship, 31, 37 games, 1 goal
Frank Sinclair, Jamaica, Burnley, England Championship, 33, 36 games, 1 goal
Gilberto Martinez, Costa Rica, Brescia, Serie A, 25, 33 games, 1 goal
Greg Berhalter, United States, Energie Cottbus, Bundesliga 2, 31, 26 games, 1 goal
Marco Reda, Canada, AaB, Denmark, 27, 17 games, 1 goal
Cory Gibbs, United States, Feyenoord, Holland, 25, 15 games, 1 goal
Claude Davis, Jamaica, Preston North End, England Championship, 26, 35 games
Darren Moore, Jamaica, West Bromwich Albion, England Premier, 31, 16 games
Frank Simek, United States, Bournemouth, England 1, 20, 13 games
Marcus Gayle, Jamaica, Brentford, England 1, 34, 11 games


GOALIES
[United States – 6, Trinidad & Tobago – 3, Canada 2, Jamaica – 1]

Marcus Hahnemann, United States, Reading, England Championship, 32, 46 games
Brad Friedel, United States, Blackburn Rovers, England Premier, 34, 38 games
Clayton Ince, Trinidad & Tobago, Crewe Alexandria, England Championship, 32, 23 games
Kasey Keller, United States, Borussia Mochengladbach, Bundesliga, 35, 21 games
Shaka Hislop, Trinidad & Tobago, Portsmouth, England Premier, 36, 17 games
Tim Howard, United States, Manchester United, England Premier, 26, 12 games
Aiden Brown, United States, Aelsund, Norway, 27, 6 games
Daniel Fernandes, Canada, PAOK, Greece, 21, 4 games
Donovan Ricketts, Jamaica, Bradford City, England League 1, 27, 4 games
Lars Hirschfeld, Canada, Leicester City, England 1, 26, 3 games
David Yelldell, Brighton, England Championship, 23, 3 games
Kelvin Jack, Trinidad & Tobago, Reading, England Championship, 29, 2 games

[Gordon]

D-Mid, Daniel Imhoff, CAN, St Gallen, Swiss Super League.

A/M, Alen Marcina, CAN, Herfølge, Denmark, 2 games (not sure if you count current season for Denmark, or if it is like the Scaninvian Leagues where the previous summer counts).

[Hank Rearden]

D-Mid, Daniel Imhoff, CAN, St Gallen, Swiss Super League.

A/M, Alen Marcina, CAN, Herfølge, Denmark, 2 games (not sure if you count current season for Denmark, or if it is like the Scaninvian Leagues where the previous summer counts).


I posted Daniel Imhof's stats on the other thread (29 matches, no goals). You can find his stats on www.eurosoccer.ch (assuming you know a few words of German). By the way, they have him playing D-mid at the beginning of the season, and switching to central defense from about mid-way on.

[Martin Fischer]

D-Mid, Daniel Imhoff, CAN, St Gallen, Swiss Super League.

A/M, Alen Marcina, CAN, Herfølge, Denmark, 2 games (not sure if you count current season for Denmark, or if it is like the Scaninvian Leagues where the previous summer counts).

No, you are correct. I should have picked up both of those guys.

[Kick The Ball]

Some more players from Trinidad here.

2 midfielders.
Silvio Spann - Yokohama (Japan).
Christopher Birchall - (Port Vale).

2 defenders.
Jlloyd Samuel - (Aston Villa).
Derek Phillips - Shamrock Rovers (Ireland).

1 forward.
Bobby Zamora (West Ham United).

Kenwyne Jones (Southampton) his Stoky City loan has experied.

Jlloyd Samuel & Bobby Zamora to join T&T soon.

[MoRado]

You are missing to CR'n guys that play in Norway Garro nd McDonald

[Hank Rearden]

You are missing to CR'n guys that play in Norway Garro nd McDonald

They haven't played with the first team yet. See Martin's note about only listing first team players.

[Hank Rearden]

Some more players from Trinidad here.

2 midfielders.
Silvio Spann - Yokohama (Japan).
Christopher Birchall - (Port Vale).

2 defenders.
Jlloyd Samuel - (Aston Villa).
Derek Phillips - Shamrock Rovers (Ireland).

1 forward.
Bobby Zamora (West Ham United).

Kenwyne Jones (Southampton) his Stoky City loan has experied.

Jlloyd Samuel & Bobby Zamora to join T&T soon.

I was able to find that Silvio Spann has scored once this season for FC Yokohama on www.rsssf.com. No idea how many matches, but it appears that he is a regular starter. By the way, FC Yokohama plays in the second level, J2.