CONCACAF Abroad

[CanuckFan2]

Originally posted by DoyleG
If a Canadian or American player has an EU passport, he has the full rights of anyone else in the UK or the EU. Most players got their passports through their parents .

Quite an observation. Can you tell me where those few others get THEIR European passports.

[DoyleG]

Originally posted by CanuckFan2
Quite an observation. Can you tell me where those few others get THEIR European passports.

- Through Parents Born in the EU.
- Being born in an EU country.
- Long-term residence.
- Marrying an EU citizen.

[Martin Fischer]

Originally posted by futbol2ot
Great work compiling that list. Here's another addition:

Ian Feuer, G, Derby County

Living in the past my friend. Derby was two clubs ago for Feuer. Currently he has no club but I will add hiim to the list because of his two games for Tramere Rovers earlier this year on a short-term loan.

[Kick The Ball]

Fizroy Simpson is from Jamaica, NOT T&T, he was one of the foreign born players Jamaica recruited.

[markdickson]

Originally posted by Kick The Ball

Colin Samuel - Falkirk, Striker.


Could be joining Everton soon.

[Martin Fischer]

Originally posted by Kick The Ball
Fizroy Simpson is from Jamaica, NOT T&T, he was one of the foreign born players Jamaica recruited.

You could say that with a smile. Sorry for the typo.

[Treetaliano]

Vinicio Espinal Edwards - Dominican Republic - Midfield - Atalanta Serie A

currently on loan to C1 Taranto

[Martin Fischer]

Originally posted by Treetaliano
Vinicio Espinal Edwards - Dominican Republic - Midfield - Atalanta Serie A

currently on loan to C1 Taranto

When players are loaned, I count them as playing for the team to which they are loaned. E.g. McBride counts as an Everton player and Espinal as a Taranto player. Since I have not included Serie C1, he is not included in my list.

[CrazyMLSfan]

Those players from Tridinad and Tobago and Jamaica are great in Europe, but cant play together in their respective national teams.

[Kick The Ball]

Originally posted by CrazyMLSfan
Those players from Tridinad and Tobago and Jamaica are great in Europe, but cant play together in their respective national teams.

You are right, but I'm sure IF these players train enough together and gel as a unit, they will be a force to play aganist. The problem is, T&T and Jamaica rely to much on these foreign players when they probably have more commited, skillful, hard working players based right at home locally, these foreign players just walk onto these international teams without even playing one or 2 practice games with the local players to gel properly with them, especially Trinidad and Tobago, we need to have more faith in the local players and give them the proper exposure.

Read this and tell me what you think:
http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=107201;article=58822


By the way, did you read this also, remember this guy, he's wanted by Celtics, Liverpool and Newcastle United also:
http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=107201;article=58876

[CrazyMLSfan]

Originally posted by Kick The Ball
You are right, but I'm sure IF these players train enough together and gel as a unit, they will be a force to play aganist. The problem is, T&T and Jamaica rely to much on these foreign players when they probably have more commited, skillful, hard working players based right at home locally, these foreign players just walk onto these international teams without even playing one or 2 practice games with the local players to gel properly with them, especially Trinidad and Tobago, we need to have more faith in the local players and give them the proper exposure.

Read this and tell me what you think:
http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=107201;article=58822


By the way, did you read this also, remember this guy, he's wanted by Celtics, Liverpool and Newcastle United also:
http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=107201;article=58876

I strongly support that article. This is why European players do well. They play in the same league for the most part. Also, here the Major League Soccer players when together, they do well because they play and practice a lot with each other. So, when the real game comes, they are ready. But i agree with you.

[Treetaliano]

Winston Parks (Costa Rica) is now of Lokomotiv Moscow. He played here in Florence against Florentia Viola in a friendly ahead of the Lokomotiv- AC Milan Champions League match next week.

[Martin Fischer]

TOTALS:
Canada – 24
USA – 23
Jamaica – 18
T&T - 9
Costa Rica - 9
Honduras – 5
Mexico - 2
Martinique – 2
St. Vincent – 1
Panama – 1
Grenada – 1
Guatemala – 1
Bermuda – 1
Haiti – 1


FORWARDS[Jamaica – 7, Canada - 4, T&T – 3, Costa Rica – 3, Honduras – 2, USA – 2,St. Vincent – 1, Panama – 1, Grenada – 1, Guatemala – 1, Bermuda – 1, St. Vincent – 1, Haiti - 1]:
Tomas Radzinski (Canada), Everton, English Premier, 29, 26 games, 9 goals
Ricardo Fuller (Jamaica), Preston North End, Engish 1, 23 years old, 18 games, 9 goals
Deon Burton (Jamaica), Portmouth, English 1, 26, 19 games, 7 goals
Dwight Yorke (T&T), Blackburn Rovers, English Premier, 31, 24 games, 6 goals
Shawn Goater (Bermuda), Manchester City, English Premier, 32, 20 games, 6 goals
Julio Dely Valdes (Panama), Malaga, La Liga, 35, 20 games, 6 goals
Rodney Jack (St. Vicent), Crewe Alexandria, English 2, 30, 24 games, 5 goals
Wagner Eloeu (Haiti), Guigcamp, France 1, 29, 13 games, 5 goals
Carlo Corazzini (Canada), Oldham United, English 2, 31, 26 games, 4 goals
Joel Macnuff (Jamaica) Wimbleton, English 1, 21, 25 games, 4 goals
Stern John (T&T), Brimingham City, English Premier, 26, 21 games, 4 goals
David Suazo (Honduras), Caliguiri Serie B, 23, 21 games, 4 goals
Brian McBride (USA), Everton, English Premier, 30, 5 games, 4 goals
Jason Robards (Grenada), West Bromwich Albion, English Premier, 25, 24 games, 3 goals
Dwight Pezzarossi (Guatemala), Racing Ferrol, Spanish 2, 23, 14 games, 3 goals
Kevin Lisbie (Jamaica), Charlton, English Premier, 24, 20 games, 2 goals
Anthony Rogier (T&T), Reading, English 1, 31, 19 games, 2 goals
Ronald Gomez (Costa Rica), OFI, Greece 1, 28, 13 games, 2 goals
Trevor Benjamin (Jamaica), Leicheister City, England 1, 24, 20 games, 1 goal
Barry Hayles (Jamaica), Fullham, English Premier, 30, 9 games, 1 goal
Marcus Gayle (Jamaica), Watford, English 1, 32, 22 games
Paul Pescolido (Canada), Sheffield United, English 1, 31, 11 games
Wyne Belotte (Canada), Angleholme, Sweden 1, 18, 7 games
Winston Parks (Costa Rica), Lokomotive, Russia, 21, 3 games
Conor Casey (USA), Hannover, Bundesliga, 21, 2 games
Carlos Pavon (Honduras), Napoli, Serie B, 29, 1 game
Paolo Wanchope (Costa Rica), Manchester City, English Premier, 26

WIDE MIDFIELDERS[Canada – 5, USA – 5, Jamaica – 3, T&T –2, Costa Rica –1, Martinique - 1][:
Richard Langley (Jamaica), Queens Park Rangers, English 2, 23, 24 games, 4 goals
Eddie Lewis (USA), Preston North End, England 1, 28, 22 games, 3 goals
David Xausa (Canada), Livingston, Scotland, 26, 18 games, 3 goals
Ricardo Gardner (Jamaica), Bolton, English Premier, 24, 21 games, 2 goals
Ernie Stewart (USA), NAC Breda, Holland, 33, 15 games, 2 goals
Jacob Thomas (USA), Eintracht, Bundesliga 2, 25, 10 games, 2 goals
John Thorrington (USA), Huddersfield Town, England 2, 23, 23 games, 1 goal
Ian Hume (Canada), Trammere Rovers, England 2, 19, 19 games, 1 goal
Jerren Nixon (T&T), St. Gallen, Switzerland, 29, 3 games, 1 goal
Charels Coridon (Martinique), Lens, France 1, 29, 16 games, 1 goal
Ante Jazic (Canada), Rapid Vienna, Austria, 26, 21 games
Paul Staltieri (Canada), Werder Bremen, Bundesliga, 25, 19 games
Jamie Lawrence (Jamaica), Bradford City, England 1, 32, 10 games
Nial Thompson (Canada), Wycombe, English 2, 28, 3 games
Evans Wise (T&T), Wacker, Bundesliga 2, 29, 2 games
Carlo Espinoza (USA), Kalrsruhe, Bundesliga 2, 21
Wilson Munioz (Costa Rica), OFI, Greece, 26

CENTRAL MIDFIELDERS[Canada – 4, USA – 4, Jamaica – 4, Costa Rica – 3, T&T – 2, Mexico – 1, Honduras - 1]:
Damien Francis (Jamaica), Wimbleton, English 1, 23, 28 games, 5 goals
Fernando Aguiar (Canada), Leiria, Portugal, 30, 17 games, 4 goals
Alonso Solis (Costa Rica), Brann, Norway, 24, 14 games, 4 goals
Mauricio Solis (Costa Rica), OFI, Greece, 30, 16 games, 3 goals
Jovan Kirovski (USA), Birmingham City, English Premier, 26, 15 games, 2 goals
Stefan Migloriazi (USA), Portsmouth, England 1, 25, 25 games, 1goal
Robbie Russel (USA), Songdahl, Norway, 24 games, 1 goal
Marc Bircham (Canada), Queens Park Rangers, England 2, 24, 20 games, 1 goal
Fizroy Simpson (T&T), Walsall, England 1, 32, 19 games, 1 goal
Claudio Reyna (USA), Sunderland, English Premier, 29, 11 games
Darrell Powell (Jamaica), Sheffield Wednsday, English 1, 31, 13 games
Julio DeGuzman (Canada), Hanover 96, Bundesliga, 21, 10 games
Walter Centeno (Costa Rica), AEK Athens, Greece, 28, 10 games
Julio Ceasar Leon (Honduras), Regina, Serie A, 23, 8 games
Jason Bent (Canada), Plymouth Argile, English 2, 25, 10 games
Gerrado Torrado (Mexico), Sevilla, La Liga, 23, 8 games
Russel Lapatay (T&T), Glasgow Rangers, Scotland, 34, 7 games
Brent Rahim (T&T), Northampton Town, English 2, 24, 3 games
Jermaine Johnson (Jamaica), Bolton, English Premier, 22, 1 game
Robert Scarlett (Jamaica), Spartak Moscow, Russia, 23, 1 game


WIDE DEFENDERS [USA – 9, Canada – 5, Honduras - 1]:
Anthony Sanneh (USA), Nurenburg, Bundesliga, 31, 15 games, 2 goals
Chris Ponziak (Canada), Orebro, Sweden, 21, 23 games, 1 goal
Michael Kluwoski (Canada), La Louvierre, Belgium, 21, 19 games, 1 goal
Jim Brennan (Canada), Notingham Forrest, England 1, 25, 30 games
Mark Rogers (Canada), Wycombe, English 2, 27, 24 games
Steve Cherundolo (USA), Hannover 96, Bundesliga, 23, 17 games
Cory Gibbs (USA), St. Pauli, Bundesliga 2, 23, 11 games
Richard Hastings (Canada), GAK, Austria 1, 25, 9 games
Frankie Hejduk (USA), St. Gallen, Switzerland, 28, 7 games
Gregg Vanney (USA), Bastia, France, 28, 7 games
Julio Suazo (Honduras), SV Salzburg, Austria, 24, 6 games
John O’Brien (USA), Ajax, Holland, 25, 5 games
Grover Gibson (USA), FSV Mainz, Bundesliga 2, 24, 4 games
Oguchi Onyewu (USA), Metz, France 2, 20, 2 games
Mike Duhaney (USA), FSV Mainz, Bundesliga 2, 28, 1 game

DEFENDERS: [Canada – 5, Jamaica – 4, USA – 3, Costa Rica – 2, Honduras – 2, Mexico – 1, T&T -1]
Jason DeVos (Canada), Wigan Athletic, England 2, 29, 30 games, 7 goals
Daniel Imhoff (Canada), St. Gallen, Switzerland, 25, 21 games, 3 goals
Kevin McKenna (Canada), Hearts, Scotland, 22, 26 games, 3 goals
Marvin Andrews (T&T), Livingston, Scotland, 27, 25 games, 3 goals
Darren Moore (Jamaica), West Bromwich Albion, English Premier, 28, 24 games, 2 goals
Frank Sinclair (Jamaica), Leicheister City, England 1, 31, 23 games, 1goal
Rafael Marquez (Mexico), Monoco, France, 23, 19 games, 1 goal
Paul Fenwick (Canada), Hibernian, Scotland, 33, 21 games
Gilberto Martinez (Costa Rica), Brescia, Serie A, 23, 19 games
Marco Reda (Canada), Songdal, Norway, 25, 13 games
Mauricio Wright (Costa Rica), AEK Athens, Greece, 32, 15 games
Danny Maddix (Jamaica), Shefield Wednsday, 35, 13 games
Greg Berhalter (USA), Energie Cottubus, Bundesliga, 29, 9 games
David Regis (USA), Troyes, France, 34, 8 games
Michael Johnson (Jamaica), Birmingham City, English Premier, 29, 5 games
Samuel Caballero (Honduras), Udinese, Serie A, 28, 4 games
Charles Kazalauskas (USA), NEC, Holland, 20
Ivan Guerrero (Honduras), Coventry City, England 1, 25

GOALIES [USA – 4, T&T – 2, Canada –1, Martinique - 1]:
Shaka Hislop (T&T), Portsmouth, England 1, 33, 30 games
Clayton Ince (T&T), Crewe Alexandria, England 2, 30, 27 games
Brad Friedel (USA), Blackburn Rovers, English Premier, 31, 25 games
Kasey Keller (USA), Tottenham, English Premier, 33, 25 games
Marcus Hahnemann (USA), Reading City, English 1, 30, 24 games
Ian Feuer (USA), Trammere Rovers, English 2, 31, 2 games
Lars Hisrshfield (Canada), Tottenham, English Premier, 24
Eddy Heurlie (Martinique), Troyes, France 1, 25

[Dave Marino-Nachison]

Martin,

I recently pulled Migs off my YA list because I came to suspect that he isn't US-eligible but only has a green card. Do you have information to confirm otherwise? I'd love to know for sure.

[Bluecat82]

Question: I know we all tend to be a bit Euro-centric when we talk about "abroad", but how many (if any) CONCACAF players are abroad in Asia or South America?

[Martin Fischer]

1. The data base I use lists Migs as an American. I don't know.

2. I only list Euro club players, because I don't have good data on Asia and SA.

[markdickson]

Russel Latapy has left Rangers and signed for Dundee United until the end of the season.

[JG]

From the list of Costa Ricans abroad in today's La Nacion:

Argentina: Bernie Scott (realiza una prueba con la reserva del Boca Juniors). Bolivia: Froylán Ledezma y Kurt Bernard (The Strongest). Hong Kong: Ricky Cheng (Happy Valley). Inglaterra: Paulo César Wanchope (Manchester City) y Jorge Alberto Jiménez (Mansfield Town FC). Italia: Gilberto Tuma Martínez (Brescia). Rusia: Winston Parks (Lokomotiv de Moscú) y Carlos Castro (Ruby de Kazán). David Diach y Berny Wright se integrarían en junio al club ruso FK Tribili. Uruguay: Kraesher Mooke (River Plate de Montevideo).

Castro hasn't played for Rubin Kazan yet, I believe he is to join the after the UNCAF tournament.

[JG]

Also...Wilson Munoz is back in Costa Rica playing for Saprissa, and I believe Ivan Guerrero has left Coventry.

[TequilaJoal]

Kick The Ball
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