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ursula
01 Dec 2005, 06:18 PM
While reading the other day about Brad Guzan possibly beating out Tim Howard for Germany, I thought it would be a fun idea to take a lighthearted trip back through 2005 and note who were the various Flavors of the month at any given time.

I mean this to be lighthearted too. We all say silly things if we post enough here. (After Arena sets the Germany roster next spring I plan to bring back a predictions thread from two years ago. I'm tellin' ya: it's a riot!) I'm gonna go through month by month, noting the boomlets, the major meltdowns and also who was getting cases of haterade thrown at them. I'm not gonna say much about some of the steady players (like Beasley say), instead I'll note the big ups and downs of the players.

January

Actually January was a quiet month for flavors because of the players strike/lockout. That's almost all we talked about here and it wasn't pretty. But here it is the end of the year and we have a new agreement! Whoo-hoo!

Probably the only flavor to note this month was one Danny Karbassiyoon. several posters really thought he had a chance for Germany. People liked Eddie Gaven too. Eddie Pope was still the rock in the defense. No one was really hated except for the labor negotiators.

February

Flavor of the month: Clint Dempsey

I don't have many quotes for my flavors, but here's a couple said about Clint in February:
-The closest thing the USA has to Patrick Vierra.
-Similar to Gerrard and Lampard and younger too!

Realize that these comparisons we fully meant to say that Clint is on their level.

Also getting a lick: Jemal Johnson, Clyde Simms, Brian West, Freddy Adu, and JOB for LB.

Haterade: Brian McBride and Carlos Bocanegra. This was after the WCQ @ T&T with Boca at LB looking like not such a hot idea afterall.

March

Flavor of the month: Jay DeMerit
-"Why Convey and not DeMerit?"
Note: DeMerit's boom was well short of Dempsey's the month previously. In fact Clint's boom lasted until after the Gold Cup in August.

licks: Eskandarian ("The next big feature after Johnson!"), Dempsey, Adu, Marshall, Noonan, Mathis (!)

Haterade: Landon Donovan

I won't normally boldface those getting the hate thrown at them but this month was the month when LD decided that LA was a better place than Germany. You remember, I'm sure. One poster even wrote, "He's officially replaced Convey!" on the hate list and that was true for a good month and a half at least. Reyna was sliced open after the Mexico game but that just paled in comparison to what we did with Donovan.

April

Flavor of the month: Ronnie O'Brien

Remember the whole, "Can Arena cap him and why doesn't he?", ruckus? It started this month and lasted with some fits and starts until August.

other licks: Buddle, Gros, Spector (his time will come), Johnson, Adu, and Dempsey of course.

Haterade: Berhalter ("No place on the team for this geezer")

May

Flavor of the month: Jose Burciaga, Jr.

Great year he had. (That's scarcasm.) It's interesting. some of the hype on this board for4 a player is just that. Hype, as in, "I really like this guy!" Other hype though is almost as much a swipe at Arena as a thumbs up to a particular player. the Burciaga , Jr. hype was the later.

Honorable mention must go to the oddest boomlet for a player: Marshall Leonard had a 134 post thread dedicated to him.

licks: Dunivant, Vaengas, Simms, DeMerit, Tim Ward, Gros, Buddle, Adu, and Dempsey.

Haterade: Convey. Because we can.

June

Flavor of the month: Jonathan Spector

Maybe the only flavor that hasn't really waned.

Special mention: Freddy Adu. As you can probably guess, Fred has been a flavor every month. This month witnessed a spike in his hype-ness as it was the month when folks were concerned that his DCU teammates, Christian Gomez and Jaime Moreno were 1) jealous and 2) wouldn't pass him the ball. Bummer.

licks: Gaven, Jaqua, Dempsey, and from out of nowhere, Quaranta. (A certain unnamed Portland poster hyped Tino and Clint and his dreamboat eyes then.)

Haterade: Wolff and Mathis. Wow. Just think back almost exactly four years ago what we though of them. Also Olsen and Armas in the run up to the Gold Cup.

July

Flavor of the month: Clint Dempsey

This whole year we've been obsessed over Clint.

licks: Dema! (Well if ROB was gonna get hyped it only stands that Dema would also... and it wasn't started by a DCU fan BTW. Or a Dallas fan either.)

Also: Benny Feilhaber, John Wilson (this was a DCU boomlet.) Freddy for LB (!), and- take a bow jri- Chris Rolfe months before that train left the station.

haterade: Frankie Hedjuk. Gold Cup just didn't agree with him. Armas of course too. And Olsen.

August

Flavor of the month: Jeff Cunningham and Taylor Twellman

These guys were touted big-time around the MLS all-star game. T&T's boom lasted longer than Cunny's.

licks: ROB again, Razov, Quaranta, Wade Barrett, Spector, Mapp, Adu, Michael Parkhurst, and Ricardo Clark.

haterade: No one really. I know I know- I don't know what happened with us that month! But it must be mentioned that the Clint Dempsey bandwagon officially stopped this month. Much less talk, some tepid criticism.

September

Flavor of the month: Justin "The Cartographer" Mapp

licks: Jemal Johnson for a return engagement, Clark, Spector, Noonan, Daniel Hernandez, Marshall, Freddy, and for our honorary foreigner award: Dewayne DeRosario! At least people realized that he was a foreigner.

haterade: What goes around comes around: Clint Dempsey. The Dempsey Exporess started to turn around after the England game and slowly gained passengers... It will be interesting to see the comments about him at the January camp.

October

Flavor of the month: Ricardo Clark

licks: Cobi!, Freddy!, Spector, Mapp, Gomez, Hernandez, Conrad, Twellman, and Noonan.

Haterade: Are you kidding me??? Brian Carroll of course!

November

Flavor of the month: Herculez Gomez

What??? Just an alternate???!!!^&$^&%^%$

Honorable mention should go to Chris Rolfe too. He actually played in a nats game.

licks: Feilhaber, Dunivant, Spector, Heath Pierce, Olsen, Freddy and Cobi. Maybe Cobi and Freddy could be twin a-mids in germany. Opposing players would note their names and think, "How cute!" and fail to mark them.

Haterade: Eddie Gaven. Thud.

There you go. Add your own rememberances if you like. Just remember that this is all in fun.

sidefootsitter
01 Dec 2005, 06:40 PM
Hey, I brought up Rolfe on the "who's the next call-up?" thread on the USMen folder, sometimes around June-July ... but I will admit that I was 1/2 in jest.

Bluecat82
01 Dec 2005, 06:44 PM
Funniset thread of the year...

The other burning question:

How many times was the collective here at Big Soccer Nation howling for Bruce's head?

ursula
01 Dec 2005, 06:49 PM
Hey, I brought up Rolfe on the "who's the next call-up?" thread on the USMen folder, sometimes around June-July ... but I will admit that I was 1/2 in jest.

Damn! I mention one poster and I mess it up! Rep, side.

It should be noted that I missed all sorts of little hypes and such. I went back through 75+ pages of this board's history.

ursula
01 Dec 2005, 06:52 PM
Funniset thread of the year...

The other burning question:

How many times was the collective here at Big Soccer Nation howling for Bruce's head?

Yeah- Arena could be on the haterade list every month. However I noticed a distinct trend: as the year went along that bruce-hate posts and threads went waaaay down. Probably had something to do with winning the WCQ's. But all is not lost. I have faith that if we tie Canada, Bruce will jump to the top of the hate list!

Bluecat82
01 Dec 2005, 07:03 PM
Yeah- Arena could be on the haterade list every month. However I noticed a distinct trend: as the year went along that bruce-hate posts and threads went waaaay down. Probably had something to do with winning the WCQ's.

I seem to remember a couple of extra cases of Bruce-flavored Haterade being ordered after the away matches to Guatemala and Costa Rica...

(the mind boggles of what might happen if the boys don't put at least a six-pack past "those hopeless Canadians" next month) ;)

russ
01 Dec 2005, 07:03 PM
Funniset thread of the year...

The other burning question:

How many times was the collective here at Big Soccer Nation howling for Bruce's head?

Not so much this year as in 2001,IIRC.

sidefootsitter
01 Dec 2005, 07:15 PM
Bruce got the least love after the Mexican loss, since he was blamed for the tactics, odd formations and even odder substitutions.

Fortunately for his BigSoccer rep, the Nats dominated Guatemala four days later and appeared well on its way for the World Cup.

The winter schedule also leaves him off the hook, so I don't expect any "Fire Bruce" threads to emerge until - and if - the US has a hard time on its Euro'06 spring tour.

tab5g
01 Dec 2005, 07:36 PM
It should be noted that I missed all sorts of little hypes and such. I went back through 75+ pages of this board's history.

that is amazing research. who's paying you for such quality work?

with a thread start like this one, ursula is paving the way to be he himself the December flavor of the month. it will be interesting to see if he can hold off Guzan until the New Year, as I do hear that Guzan is the best American goalkeeper under age 28.

Dr.Phil
01 Dec 2005, 07:59 PM
Wasnt Jaqua a Flavor

Ringo
01 Dec 2005, 08:31 PM
quality work. you could also just look through old MLS box scores and every time somebody scored a goal there was a thread. heaven forbid somebody would score two goals in a game, because such a performance was proof enough that they should bump DMB and Landon aside.

well done, ursula. well done.

twenty
01 Dec 2005, 08:38 PM
Don't forget Marvell Wynne, during the YWC.

ursula
01 Dec 2005, 09:12 PM
Wasnt Jaqua a Flavor

I have him down for June as a lick.


Don't forget Marvell Wynne, during the YWC.

I thought about Wynne but didnn't include him as he never got a sniff of big camp. But now I realise I was wrong- good to bring him up!

ursula
01 Dec 2005, 09:18 PM
Here's another thing: Although calling these guys "falvor of the month" is damning them with some faint praise, there are some good guys here. Do this exercise: Take the 98 WC team- and try to think good thoughts about them They did have some decent players. Now compare them to this "flavor" team:

--------------------Hahnemann
-------Spector------Marshall-----------Conrad
----------------------Clark
Quaranta------------Dempsey-----------Mapp
-----------------------Adu
------------Twellman---------Rolfe

subs: Cunningham, Jaqua, Gomez, Parkhurst, Burciaga, Noonan, West

There. That's 18.

Who wins?

EDIT: Oh dear- I just bought into the hype! lol

twenty
01 Dec 2005, 09:27 PM
I thought about Wynne but didnn't include him as he never got a sniff of big camp. But now I realise I was wrong- good to bring him up!

Probably not the first time. :o :D

Elninho
01 Dec 2005, 09:27 PM
More November haterade: Brian Ching. In November of 2004, BigSoccer thought he was better than McBride. In November of 2005, he "should never play for the USMNT again!"

Ismitje
01 Dec 2005, 09:43 PM
Fabulous thread, thanks. Rossi as a flavor/lick (man that is weird to type!)?

shooter6065
01 Dec 2005, 09:52 PM
Don't forget Marvell Wynne, during the YWC.

I forgot about him...........he was up there in the Flavor of the Month.

Flavor of the Year: Clint Dempsey......an easy hands-down pick due to the sheer number of Revs fans lurking on here.

Honorable Mentions: Eddie "regressed" Gaven
Giuseppe "I'm Italian" Rossi

Some past winners:

1999:Jovan Kirovski....Hon. Men.= Jason Kreis
2000: Chris Albright....Hon. Men.= Chad Deering and Chris Klein
2001: Paul Ruchubka.....Hon. Men.= Joe Enochs and Kyle Beckerman
2002: John Thorrington.....Hon. Men.=Wade Barrett
2003: Eddie Robinson.....Hon. Mention= Kyle Martino and Richard Mulroney
2004: A Tie between Frankie Simek and Eddie Gaven

cpwilson80
02 Dec 2005, 12:05 AM
--------------------Hahnemann
-------Spector------Marshall-----------Conrad
----------------------Clark
Quaranta------------Dempsey-----------Mapp
-----------------------Adu
------------Twellman---------Rolfe

Who wins?


First off, great thread!

The '98 team wins that game hands down...Sampson had some talent on that team, but he totally botched the tactics and team management. He played McBride and Wynalda -- the two best strikers in US history -- together for all of 30 minutes. He kicked Harkes off the team. And it's not surprising that every player on that team (save Regis) who also appeared in '02 had a better Cup with Arena at the helm (even "over-the-hill" guys like Jones and Moore.)

Your point is well taken though. Replace Conrad with another back, and that team (or at least, those players) could start a qualifier in the next cycle.

To whomever brought up Wynne, thank you. The adoration of Wynne during the YWC was at "Adu in 2001" levels, and either he or Onyewu won "Man-Crush of the Year"

And I can't believe I'm about to defend him, but in addition to the Flavor of the Year, we need the Chris Armas Haterade of the Year award in honor of the one player who's taken more undeserved crap from this place than anybody else. I think my vote would be for Ralston this year.

cpwilson80
02 Dec 2005, 12:09 AM
Oh yes, with the YWC, MLS All-Star game, Gold Cup, Milan/Chelsea/Real Madrid friendlies over the summer, and the Real madrid/MLS Select friendly this fall, I think collectively, this place set some sort of record for most observations based off friendly matches (or in the case of the Gold Cup, based off of bastardized rosters.)