What's Going To Happen After 30 Days?

[JJ Mindset]

Alright, this issue has been debated on and off so now is the time to answer the question: What's going to happen next?

[nhammen]

Either Earthquakes move here, or they stay where they are and we get an expansion in 2007.

Oh, and this is my first post. :)

[anderson]

It's very hard to figure right now. Oliver Luck said on Wednesday that he expected AEG to conclude its agreements to relocate to Houston for 2006 in a few days, well before 30 days, and probably not even two weeks. I was very surprised by how definitive he sounded because he doesn't usually speak in Leiweckean terms like that.

We also know that local entities and investors in the Bay Area are working on getting some sort of acceptable stadium proposal on the table so that AEG will sell to the SVSE group to keep the team there. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they can come up with something with which all the parties can get comfortable. They don't need blueprints or a ground-breaking, just a reasonable likelihood of reaching agreement for a new venue that would persuade SVSE that another year or two of short-term losses at Spartan Stadium would be acceptable. That's a reasonably achievable task.

Dunno.

[chapulincolorado]

"AEG buys out Chivas USA, renaming them and move them to Houston"

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Blu N Houston]

Is it just me or does it seem that Houston always gets punked?
Bud Adams.. Oilers move to Nashville.
NFL...you only get a team because L.A. is too busy to go to games.
Astros..... Beltran
Quakes...lets use Houston, to get San Jose to get a stadium.
Whats next? MLS 2007... Toronto and "?". Say it now or get off the *********er!

"IF", Houston fails to get the relocated Quakes, then the MLS needs to come out and say Houston is the second team for MLS expansion in 2006. Garber saying that the MLS will be in Houston, When 2015? I/We might not be around!j/k
Don't keep us hanging MLS! :mad: Don't make me waste my extra cash on Euro team gear. :eek: lol

[tab5g]

"AEG buys out Chivas USA, renaming them and move them to Houston"

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I believe this idea.

It helps explain those Bradley to Houston rumors.

[phillips10]

If the quakes are saved in SJ its the best scenario for all involved. This allows Houston to enter along with Toronto in 2007 as an expansion team. It gives more time for the Houston club to start on the right foot with the proper setup/marketing and short and long term stadium plans.

[Blu N Houston]

If the quakes are saved in SJ its the best scenario for all involved. This allows Houston to enter along with Toronto in 2007 as an expansion team. It gives more time for the Houston club to start on the right foot with the proper setup/marketing and short and long term stadium plans.
I know its the best route in the long run.... but then again Houston has been in the running for over 10 yrs. :(

[anderson]

See the article from the San Jose Mercury News in the MLS daily news thread (http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=272490).

SVSE and the San Jose local governmental entities are making some progress toward developing a new venue. They apparently still have some local public law issues to address, but they may be able to work out enough of the economics of a prospective venue to enable (1) SVSE, AEG, and MLS to get comfortable with a reasonable expectation of developing a venue and (2) SVSE to conclude that it's reasonable to continue to take losses at Spartan for a couple more years. Again, they don't need to actually complete the deal for a new venue in the next few days, just reach a comfort level among the relevant parties about the likelihood of such a deal.

[CeltTexan]

If the quakes are saved in SJ its the best scenario for all involved. This allows Houston to enter along with Toronto in 2007 as an expansion team. It gives more time for the Houston club to start on the right foot with the proper setup/marketing and short and long term stadium plans.


It's posts like this that remind me logic still has a place here in BSland.

[anderson]

Just FYI- today's MLS daily news thread (http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=272837) has a couple more pieces from the San Jose Mercury News that are worth reading. The daily news thread that's initially posted over on MLS N&A will probably include regular stories about the events in San Jose over the next couple of weeks. Regardless of what happens there, it's probably a good thing for MLS fans in Houston to learn more about these sorts of negotiations with city councils and recalcitrant university administrations.

[Blu N Houston]

Sorry to all about my last rant, I was starting to grip about the Quakes. I see everyones point about waiting.

[SA14mars]

I think it would be in the better interests of all involved parties for H-town to get it's own expansion team in 2007. additionally, with Toranto getting the other team, it would be a north/south move whereas this year's expansion was (obviously) a west-only move. If SJ wants to move then they should, but I personally doubt that will happen before the expansion teams are finalized. As far as H-town getting two teams, I think such a move would would be suicidal for both teams involved. If SJ moves to Houston before the second expansion team is announced then I think another city will get the expansion (personally I hope STL get's it in that scenario); otherwise, I cannot fathom why Houston would not be at the top of the list for the second expansion team.

[joebloe888]

The stuff happening in San Jose appears yet to be another stalling tactic, designed to keep AEG in limbo long enough so that AEG can't move the Quakes out of town.

The proposed land parcel, all 3.7 acres of it, is too small for a stadium to fit.

Sooner or later, AEG has to tell San Jose to stop playing games.

[joebloe888]

The clock is about to strike midnight. Say goodnight, San Jose.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/soccer/13376842.htm

[USRufnex]

The stuff happening in San Jose appears yet to be another stalling tactic, designed to keep AEG in limbo long enough so that AEG can't move the Quakes out of town.

The proposed land parcel, all 3.7 acres of it, is too small for a stadium to fit.


In the FYI department...

Funny... some opponents of plans to build an SSS in downtown Tulsa are emphasizing the argument that 20 acres is too small for an MLS stadium...
http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2680

[cristoforo7]

Obviously nothing is going to be settled on the SSS in San Jose issue before January 10th. So either SVS&E is going to have to accept the prospects of an SSS as they currently exist and buy in as the newest investor-operator in MLS (with the risk of selling off its interest in a year or two to a "Club America" type buyer at a loss, if an SSS doesn't get approved); or, MLS and AEG are going to have to move the team to Houston, because otherwise they would lose all credibility in future negotiations with other local governmental agencies, who would always call "bullshyte" on any threat to move a team.

[anderson]

Obviously nothing is going to be settled on the SSS in San Jose issue before January 10th. So either SVS&E is going to have to accept the prospects of an SSS as they currently exist and buy in as the newest investor-operator in MLS (with the risk of selling off its interest in a year or two to a "Club America" type buyer at a loss, if an SSS doesn't get approved); or, MLS and AEG are going to have to move the team to Houston, because otherwise they would lose all credibility in future negotiations with other local governmental agencies, who would always call "bullshyte" on any threat to move a team.
I thought that SVS&E was also negotiating with Santa Clara, at least as of 11/18:

SVS&E is also talking with Santa Clara city officials about several sites.

San Jose Mercury News 11/18 (http://news.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=us/2-0&fp=439d6aa2e83a4818&ei=qv2dQ4PjD8GaaK71pIwN&url=http%3A//www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/hockey/nhl/san_jose_sharks/13198574.htm&cid=0)
Have the Santa Clara discussions also failed to progress adequately? Or do you think that the economics of Spartan Stadium (Ridge Mahoney reports in Soccer America that it costs $100,000 per game) and the intransigence of the SJSU administration mean that there's no economically feasible short-term option anyway?

[cristoforo7]

Santa Clara is the wild card, I suppose. It has been ignored by Soccer Silicon Valley in its recent emails and there has been nothing agendized or in the Mercury News (other than the vague reference in the article you have linked to). Perhaps SVS&E was using San Jose as leverage against Santa Clara; if so, that game is over it would seem. Anything is possible.

[joebloe888]

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/13392462.htm

Finally, San Jose has given up.

AEG can now move the Quakes out of town.