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NattyBo
20 Nov 2005, 01:36 AM
Warning: This post is long and rambling :D

Obviously, Chelsea proved to be one goal better last year in the Champions League. However, both teams are back in force this season and I consider them to be the odds on favorites for winning the Champions League.

Barcelona is coming back as defending champions of La Liga, and after a rough start which saw them getting home draws and defeats away, October and November saw a turn in form which has been truly stunning. In the last 6 games, Barcelona have conceded only 1 goal and have scored a staggering 21 goals, including back to back 5-0 wins and most recently a dismantling of arch-rivals Real Madrid.

They made some key offseason aquisitions, most notably Mark Van Bommell of PSV and of course securing Argentine prodigy Lionel Messi until 2010. With these two additions and the return of Edmilson, Gabri and Henrik Laarson from season ending injuries last season, Frank Rijkaard has had an ample choice of stars to select from. At some points, Barcelona's attack has looked irresistable, with a goal-hungry Eto'o scoring 11 goals in 12 games in League play and most recently scoring a hat trick in the Champions League. Of course, Barcelona has Ronaldinho, which pretty much speaks for itself. He can change a game in a way very few players ever can.

However, Barcelona has looked suspect at the back at some points, despite conceding only one goal in the last 6 games. Valdes does not seem to have the same confidence he once possesed on crosses, but it seems like team captain Carles Puyol has been able to keep things in order in the back.

For their part, Chelsea are still riding high off their finest season in club history. Under Jose Mourinho's guidance, Chelsea set the Premiership record for points in a season with 95 points from 38 games played. Also: "most wins (29), fewest goals against (15) and most clean sheets (25) in a 38 game season."(per wikipedia).

Mourinho has Chelsea playing a brand of football that is predicated on a stingy defense and a domineering midfield, much the same as Barcelona (in terms of midfield, not defense). They can counter attack with lightening speed, as Barcelona learned during the Stamford Bridge encounter last year.

Their depth is without parrallel in Europe, with world class players like Hernan Crespo and new signing Shaun Wright-Phillips fighting for starting rolls. Summer addition Essien from Lyon has only strengthened the already formidable squad.

Chelsea posses the only real competition to Ronaldinho for European (and World) player of the year, Frank Lampard. The England international midfielder has 19 appearences and 11 goals this year so far.

So basically, based on all that, you might as well flip a coin, as far as I can tell. Either way, I hope we see a Barcelona vs Chelsea reamatch at some point in the Champions League. I think it would be even better this time around.

What do you all think? :P

balla
20 Nov 2005, 02:06 AM
Bayern

Bayern4Life
20 Nov 2005, 02:20 AM
Bayern
EXACTLY!!!!!! BAYERN IS THE REAL TEAM TO BEAT!!!

marakana10
20 Nov 2005, 02:56 AM
Barcelona has the offense, Chelsea has the defense. We have seen this plenty of times in sport and the latter usually wins but something tells me it would be very close. Plus never count out the Italians or Bayern because they always somehow get through to at least the quarters. Defense usually wins but with Ronaldinho and Eto'o and Messi in form like it was today against Madrid it would be a masterclass for football if they met. Although somehow I picture Essien and Makalele playing a key role for Chelsea. I believe if Ronaldinho and Eto'o got past them several times it would be lights out for Carvalho and Terry.

KopThat!
20 Nov 2005, 11:14 AM
Geez, somebody has to beat the defending European Champions yet, nevermind either of these two wanabees! :rolleyes:

Jake1983
20 Nov 2005, 11:42 AM
Geez, somebody has to beat the defending European Champions yet, nevermind either of these two wanabees! :rolleyes:


If the Reds could of lived up to that name I would agree with you but they sit on the bottom half of the Premiership.

I do not think it is Cheslea I think every one gives that club too much cedit. My choice would be a Barca or even Juventes(I know they haven't performed)
but an Italian squad always seems to end up in the final

Bruiser
20 Nov 2005, 11:49 AM
Lyon. Perfect record in Europe and unbeaten both domestically and in Europe.

KopThat!
20 Nov 2005, 11:51 AM
If the Reds could of lived up to that name I would agree with you but they sit on the bottom half of the Premiership.


Really? They are 8th with TWO games in hand my friend. ;)

Oh and they are 3 points clear and TOP of their CL group. ;)

jrod69
20 Nov 2005, 12:09 PM
Barcelona easily ... Ronaldinho can't be stopped .... Ive never really been a fan of Barcelona but damn this guy just makes everything fun and exciting

marakana10
20 Nov 2005, 02:19 PM
Geez, somebody has to beat the defending European Champions yet, nevermind either of these two wanabees! :rolleyes:

Can barely wait for the knockout rounds when you guys go back to reality.

KopThat!
21 Nov 2005, 04:33 PM
Can barely wait for the knockout rounds when you guys go back to reality.

******** off twat.

Clan
21 Nov 2005, 04:34 PM
Er...lets keep it (somewhat) civil eh? :)

Jake1983
21 Nov 2005, 07:58 PM
Geez, somebody has to beat the defending European Champions yet, nevermind either of these two wanabees! :rolleyes:






A classic Liverpool supporter post showing their great football intelligence

da zen
22 Nov 2005, 06:47 AM
Barcelona for sure... SPL Ronaldhino.. who showed Chelsea what he is, few months back at Stamford Bridge!!! heard Stamford bridge is falling down! but, they got the team spirit at desparate times!
With Quality , team play and superstars it gotta go with Barca! the spaniards... Chelsea are good when everything is going good.. when it's bad! it's all bad!

ECMoney
22 Nov 2005, 01:21 PM
Ummmm.......ever heard of Juve? Last I checked, they weren't doing to bad this year. How about Milan, have you heard of them?

Honestly,
Juve
Chelsea
Barcelona
Milan
Lyon
Bayern

Those are your top 6 teams right now in Europe.

Francois20
22 Nov 2005, 02:52 PM
Right now the best team is Barca and I give them the edge over chelsea because chelsea's defense is not as consistent in getting clean sheets and with barca's attack I really don't think they can contain Barca's attackers

CL_2004
23 Nov 2005, 12:52 AM
Barcelona! just look at the scores of their games.

:D

Eowin
23 Nov 2005, 04:46 AM
Barcelona and O.Lyon.

guignol
23 Nov 2005, 06:47 AM
i can hardly believe i'm saying this, but i agree with Eowin in including our beloved gones. they get better every year, and as much as i'm normally inclined to reserve and modesty, they seem to be as good as any in europe
right now.

Eowin
24 Nov 2005, 01:54 PM
i can hardly believe i'm saying this, but i agree with Eowin in including our beloved gones. they get better every year, and as much as i'm normally inclined to reserve and modesty, they seem to be as good as any in europe
right now.


No doubt, they are as good as any in Europe.
:)