Battrick Thread Part V

[Bluto11]

youth pull went for 131k!!

[johno]

That's my point. If they had respectable/mediocre consistency or stamina, it would seem justifiable, but they don't. It's somewhere around woeful. And their fielding isn't great either.

fielding isn't a big deal imo, if you are buying a player to train its not necessary that they have conc/cons. or fielding really, in fact you'll save money buying a young player w/ high primary and training them w/ 1 fielding and 1 batting/bowling session.

The catch is when u are not buying someone to train - then u've got to make sure u've got secondaries although, again, fielding is not that big a deal. Stamina is much more important.

[quentinc]

The catch is when u are not buying someone to train - then u've got to make sure u've got secondaries although, again, fielding is not that big a deal. Stamina is much more important.
Yeah, that's what I'm planning to do. I'm starting to streamline my training more towards batsman. In a few years, I hope to work it out where I've got five solid bowlers, and have three focused batting trainees who I can give multiple slots.

[quentinc]

Can anyone else not access their club info page?

[John_Harkes_6]

Very interesting change:
Today we have introduced you to two new concepts for your players. Each player is now shown to have his own personal fitness level, and two seperate form values: one for bowling and one for batting.

None of these values will have any effect on your players performances this season.

However, they will start to effect their performances from the start of next season, and the values will change this season to show you how they will behave.

The new form values will have a similar effect as the old form, but they will effect only the batting or the bowling side of a players game. There will also be a combined form, made up of the batting and bowling form, that will have an effect for wicketkeepers and fielders. Thats the easy bit!

Now the players personal fitness level will not replace the teams fitness level that you currently see, but compliment it. The team fitness will have a smaller impact on your teams performance than it did previously, with the players fitness having a larger impact on his own performance. When a player plays a game, his fitness level will go down. When he has to do nets, his fitness level will go down, and the harder you train, the further it will fall. Fortunately though, each day of rest that a player gets will see his fitness level rise, as you would expect.This may leave you with some tough decisions to make as to whether you will play your star player in one more match when he is already drained, or one of the other guys who is invigorated and ready for action.

Use the time between now and next season to determine how best to utilise your squad. There will NOT be a reset of a players fitness level at the end of the season.

Good Luck!

Definitely means if you push a guy in numerous net sessions his fitness will suck and he will be unusuable for matches.

[johno]

I can't say I'm happy about the changes or mad either... too soon to tell... it will mean that there won't be too many godlike players unless a team is already very good and won't have to play trainees at all. It also means I've got to get my squad a bit bigger than what it currently is and start filling it with some better players...

Its very hard right now, so few players are on the market that would help my team and just be starters rather than trainees or super players... there are no role players on the market for competitive teams. I'm not about to pick up a 19yo and NOT train him. I'll not train a guy I pull but I can't fathom picking up a player from the market who is trainable and then not training him... it goes against me.

I'd have sold several of my YPs by now if I knew I could replace them w/ someone who could equal their output who's a bit older, but those players aren't on the bloody market.

My other grief, most importantly is why when I look at the promotion tables is my team not there, when there's a team (that will have a qualifyer) on 24 pts (same as me) w/ a NRR MUCH lower than mine?

[Helghallen]

Ackkk!!!!!!!

[Bluto11]

are these "rest" days just days where there are matches, i.e. fridays and sundays, or is it every day of the week that your player does not engage in any physical activity?

[johno]

Ackkk!!!!!!!

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[kopiteinkc]

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I guess Chris doesn't like the changes, me neither :(

[johno]

It just means u can't train your trainees to death if u want to play them and you can't play the same team every match either.

[kopiteinkc]

It just means u can't train your trainees to death if u want to play them and you can't play the same team every match either.

Exactly, I want to train my trainees and play them all the time. No fair!!

[Craig P]

While I'm not thrilled with the effect the personal fitness will have on my handling of my squad, I think it's a great way to realistically address issues of fixture congestion and overtraining.

[johno]

I'm worried that I'm going to have to start training stamina.

I think that my next pop w/ several of my trainees will be their last.

I've got 6 trainees right now,

17yo bat prof./competent who will be on the U-19 team for the WI (I can't see how he won't make the team) he's got respectable stamina so he won't need to be trained in that any time soon.

18yo bowler resp/absymal w/ feeble stamina - just pulled him... not sure if I'll keep him and give him stamina and fielding or if I'll just sell him and buy another bowler.

20yo med/prof. bat w/ feeble stamina - he bats like 5 or 6 for me and I'll stop training as soon as he pops - he won't get any stamina training.

18yo comp/prof bat w/ woeful stamina - torn about him... needs stamina, but not sure whether to sell or to keep. If he pops in batting before my other trainees I will give him stamina when I free up a spot, if he doesn't then I'll sell him when he pops.

17yo comp/comp bowler w/ woeful stamina - he should be one that I keep, making the total 3 so far, 2 of whom need fitness+fielding

19yo prof/feeble bowler w/ feeble stamina - he could be my best bowler soon if he pops and once I get a training slot I'll give him stamina or fitness.


I'll be clearing one training spot relatively soon - that will go to stamina and I might rotate and switch which player gets stamina each week.

question, if I give a player fielding and stamina and I've got psychs will his consitency (if he's a bowler) or concentration (if he's a batsman) also get trained? I'm asking because I when the 19yo pops to strong I might take that net session and make it stamina and take my next free one (20 yo) and make it fielding - if his consistency will rise that way I'll be happy to let him train until he pops to mediocre stamina and consistency.

[John_Harkes_6]

My other grief, most importantly is why when I look at the promotion tables is my team not there, when there's a team (that will have a qualifyer) on 24 pts (same as me) w/ a NRR MUCH lower than mine?

Because you are not in first in your division. Only first place teams are eligible for promotion this year I believe.

[Bluto11]

question, if I give a player fielding and stamina and I've got psychs will his consitency (if he's a bowler) or concentration (if he's a batsman) also get trained? I'm asking because I when the 19yo pops to strong I might take that net session and make it stamina and take my next free one (20 yo) and make it fielding - if his consistency will rise that way I'll be happy to let him train until he pops to mediocre stamina and consistency.

i think so. i've read that fielding pops conc and consis quicker then just a primary skil training.

[johno]

Because you are not in first in your division. Only first place teams are eligible for promotion this year I believe.

yeah, kinda forgot that.

i think so. i've read that fielding pops conc and consis quicker then just a primary skil training.

I've heard that too, but what i mean is whether conc/cons even have a chance to go up if they are not being trained in a primary skill at all. I could see it happening but it would also make sense to me if they didn't go up in mental areas if not given physical work.

sorta like a player watching tons of footage but never practicing... sure he'll know exactly what to do, but will he be able to execute?

[Bluto11]

yeah, kinda forgot that.



I've heard that too, but what i mean is whether conc/cons even have a chance to go up if they are not being trained in a primary skill at all. I could see it happening but it would also make sense to me if they didn't go up in mental areas if not given physical work.

sorta like a player watching tons of footage but never practicing... sure he'll know exactly what to do, but will he be able to execute?
good point. never though of it as having to have a primary and fielding to make the conc and consis go up quicker. I'm training some guys in fielding right now, I can let you know if any pop in conc or consis. only one fielding session so far for all 3.

[johno]

good point. never though of it as having to have a primary and fielding to make the conc and consis go up quicker. I'm training some guys in fielding right now, I can let you know if any pop in conc or consis. only one fielding session so far for all 3.

Good look man...

[AAGunner3]

Re: the new changes -

Just as I was figuring this game out. Geez...

Oh well...

And I had just finished whittling my squad down to a lean number. Now it looks like I'll need to hire/pull players to flesh it back out.

Will friendlies cause players to drop form too?