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bltleo
17 Nov 2005, 10:02 AM
DF could you change the name of this thread so some reasonable:), more
understable way
I think the name of thread I have given is not so good.
Blt:)
"Eisenfuß" Eilts
18 Nov 2005, 08:11 AM
Guys, enough speculated:
Here are the pots for the draw:
Pot 1:
Germany, Brasil, Italy, Spain,
Argentine, England, Mexiko, France
Pot 2:
Holland, USA, Schweden, Czech Republic,
South Korea, Croatia, Portugal, Japan
Pot 3:
Paraguay, Costa Rica, Saudi-Arabia, Iran,
Poland, Tunisia, Serbia, Ecuador
Pot 4:
Ivory Coast, Schwitzerland, Angola, Ghana,
Togo, Trinidad & Tobago, Australia, Ukraine
plus: maximum 2 countries from the same continent
"Eisenfuß" Eilts
18 Nov 2005, 08:13 AM
Hardest possible group IMO:
Germany
Holland
Paraguay
Ivory Coast
AGF Aarhus
18 Nov 2005, 09:18 AM
Guys, enough speculated:
Here are the pots for the draw:
Pot 1:
Germany, Brasil, Italy, Spain,
Argentine, England, Mexiko, France
Pot 2:
Holland, USA, Schweden, Czech Republic,
South Korea, Croatia, Portugal, Japan
Pot 3:
Paraguay, Costa Rica, Saudi-Arabia, Iran,
Poland, Tunisia, Serbia, Ecuador
Pot 4:
Ivory Coast, Schwitzerland, Angola, Ghana,
Togo, Trinidad & Tobago, Australia, Ukraine
plus: maximum 2 countries from the same continent
Sorry to be a pest, but ...
Are these the real pots (if so, where did you find them), or did you make them up? If they are the real pots they certainly overturn some previously held assumptions, namely that after the top seeds, the pots are determined by geography, not quality. Therefore, all of the CONCACAF teams should be in one pot, ditto the Africans, Asians and South Americans (although one team could be moved to even out the numbers). You say max two countries from the same continent, but I can't see FIFA allowing two countries from any continent other than Europe to meet in the group stage. Again, if these are the real pots I'm very surprised.
bltleo
18 Nov 2005, 10:02 AM
DF thanks you changed the name of the thread.
It sounds much much better.
bltleo
"Eisenfuß" Eilts
20 Nov 2005, 10:19 AM
Sorry to be a pest, but ...
Are these the real pots (if so, where did you find them), or did you make them up? If they are the real pots they certainly overturn some previously held assumptions, namely that after the top seeds, the pots are determined by geography, not quality. Therefore, all of the CONCACAF teams should be in one pot, ditto the Africans, Asians and South Americans (although one team could be moved to even out the numbers). You say max two countries from the same continent, but I can't see FIFA allowing two countries from any continent other than Europe to meet in the group stage. Again, if these are the real pots I'm very surprised.
I found them at BILD.de, but there are also other information about them. :confused:
source: fussballforen.de (http://www.fussball-forum.de/viewtopic.php?t=17405)
arthur d
20 Nov 2005, 08:51 PM
Hardest possible group IMO:
Germany
Holland
Paraguay
Ivory Coast
I think
Germany
Holland
Serbia
Ukraine
would be a bit of a bummer... possible based on the pots, but is an all European group allowed?
marco goncalves
20 Nov 2005, 09:39 PM
I think
Germany
Holland
Serbia
Ukraine
would be a bit of a bummer... possible based on the pots, but is an all European group allowed?
Absolutely not............
The Old Lady Hertha
20 Nov 2005, 10:31 PM
Absolutely not............
Yea...no more than 2 from each confederation.
essie_majedi
20 Nov 2005, 11:52 PM
Group A
Germany*
Sweden*
Costa Rica
Togo
Group B
Mexico*
South Korea
Serbia and Montenegro*
Ukraine
Group C
Argentina*
Holland*
Ecuador
Ghana
Group D
Italy*
Croatia*
Paraguay
Angola
Group E
England*
USA
Iran*
Switzerland
Group F
Brazi*
Portugal*
Tunisia
Australia
Group G
France*
Czech Republic*
Saudi Arabia
Trinidad and Tabago
Group H
Spain*
Japan
Poland*
Ivory Coast
teams with * next to them i think will progress to the next round.
Dead Fingers
21 Nov 2005, 10:04 AM
so with the exception of Mexico and Iran all the other teams will be European or S. American in the final 16? I think not.
bltleo
21 Nov 2005, 10:20 AM
so with the exception of Mexico and Iran all the other teams will be European or S. American in the final 16? I think not.
Well I think Germany will be first in our group...I really think we will have great tournament..
concerning USA...I think they will go to next round...they will not finish in first round....
USA is better than in 2002 .so I believe USMNT will be as successful as in 2002 or better...I tend to say that USA will be much better than they were last World Cup....I followed their qualifying games ...and I know USA did beat Mexico...so I would not underestimate US team.
bltleo:)
Dead Fingers
30 Nov 2005, 07:27 PM
from uli
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=350665&root=worldcup&cc=5901
So, this is the result of the unofficial Soccernet 2006 World Cup finals draw:
Group A: Germany, France, Japan, Togo
Group B: Italy, Poland, Iran, Ecuador
Group C: England, Sweden, Costa Rica, Ivory Coast
Group D: Holland, Croatia, South Korea, Ghana
Group E: Mexico, Ukraine, Saudi Arabia, Paraguay
Group F: Brazil, Portugal, Czech Republic, Angola
Group G: Spain, Switzerland, USA, Tunisia
Group H: Argentina, Serbia & Montenegro, Trinidad & Tobago, Australia
bltleo
01 Dec 2005, 08:35 AM
I think Group A good not bad...we can make it
no England or no Holland in our group...and no Brazil
Group A: Germany, France, Japan, Togo
I think this is group of life:)
Bltleo:)
Cazlon
01 Dec 2005, 10:19 AM
Hardest possible group IMO:
Germany
Holland
Paraguay
Ivory Coast
Replace Ivory Coast with Ghana and i tend to agree. Droghba and friends are overrated imo, while the Black Stars are much stronger than most people give them credit for. We'll have a better idea after the ANC though, if the top clubs let their players go that is.
The Old Lady Hertha
01 Dec 2005, 11:39 AM
I think Group A good not bad...we can make it
no England or no Holland in our group...and no Brazil
Group A: Germany, France, Japan, Togo
I think this is group of life:)
Bltleo:)
Japan would be a hard beat though regardless. And I dunno anything about Togo, just like I didn't know anything about Senegal last year.
But, we would beat the French though. :cool:
"Eisenfuß" Eilts
04 Dec 2005, 09:38 AM
Here the pots, the BILD newspaper printed today:
http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/sport/aktuell/2005/12/04/wm__auslosung/topf__1,property=Bild.jpg
http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/sport/aktuell/2005/12/04/wm__auslosung/topf__2,property=Bild.jpg
http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/sport/aktuell/2005/12/04/wm__auslosung/topf__3,property=Bild.jpg
http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/sport/aktuell/2005/12/04/wm__auslosung/topf__4,property=Bild.jpg
Seems, the setting between pot 3 and 4 is unclear (FIFA will know i guess),
because there are 9 European nations, that aren´t in pot 1
and FIFA said, that each continent should have a max of 2 teams n a group.
Will be interested if this pot setting is true (in the way it was printed) and chear for the drawing this Friday.
Ombak
04 Dec 2005, 10:30 PM
Unlike a lot of articles circulating out there this week, this one looks realistic.
Is there an online version?
Ombak
04 Dec 2005, 10:33 PM
Seems, the setting between pot 3 and 4 is unclear (FIFA will know i guess)because there are 9 European nations, that aren´t in pot 1 and FIFA said, that each continent should have a max of 2 teams n a group.In 2002 there were 11 UEFA nations in one pot. This is not a probably. The ninth team does not go to the other pot. Instead, all 9 teams are drawn randomly.
Let's say Arg, Mex and Bra have groups B, D, F. Them when the ninth UEFA team is drawn, only B, D or F can be drawn, but all have an equal chance.
After that, then they move on to the next pot.
Germanshepherd
05 Dec 2005, 11:27 AM
In 2002 there were 11 UEFA nations in one pot. This is not a probably. The ninth team does not go to the other pot. Instead, all 9 teams are drawn randomly.
Let's say Arg, Mex and Bra have groups B, D, F. Them when the ninth UEFA team is drawn, only B, D or F can be drawn, but all have an equal chance.
After that, then they move on to the next pot.
Yes that is reasonable.