Televisa's Club America NOT invited to SUM/AEG's Interliga

[joebloe888]

The feud between Televisa and SUM/AEG has to be much deeper than any of us thought.

SUM has issued its list of 8 LMF teams invited to play in Interliga 2006:

Group A

Monterrey
Monarcas
Pachuca
Veracruz

Group B

Chivas Guadalajara
Necaxa
Tigres
Toluca

[sidspaceman]

Club America was not invited because just like Pumas last year they have to play in the CCC.

[monster]

No, no, no. It HAS to be a conspiracy. It has to be.

:rolleyes:

You really do outdo yourself each time, Oliver. It even says in the ********ing release that America has to play the CCC.

The Mexican League champions in both its
tournaments during 2005 (Club America - Clausura 2005 champion) would be
required to participate in the CONCACAF Champions Cup, precluding their
participation in the Copa Libertadores and InterLiga.

[The Greatest]

Wow. This guy is an idiot. Last time I ever read one of his posts.

[AndyMead]

No, no, no. It HAS to be a conspiracy. It has to be.

:rolleyes:

You really do outdo yourself each time, Oliver. It even says in the ********ing release that America has to play the CCC.

As moderator, why don't you go ahead and bin or retitle this thread to something that doesn't draw attention to Oliver Tse.

[monster]

As moderator, why don't you go ahead and bin or retitle this thread to something that doesn't draw attention to Oliver Tse.
Because I prefer public humiliation as a punishment for hubris.

[AndyMead]

Because I prefer public humiliation as a punishment for hubris.

Sigh. :(

[monster]

Sigh. :(
Life's a bitch, ain't it?

[AndyMead]

Life's a bitch, ain't it?

Actually, I consider this crap. Be a freakin' moderator.

Yeah, you have a legitimate beef with Oliver Tse. Cool.

Either get him carded, banned, or whatever - but at the very least - be a moderator. This is Business & Media. This thread clearly doesn't belong at this point.

If you want "public humiliation as a punishment for hubris" why does it have to be in this forum?

Seriously? And after all these years, what makes you think he cares?

Cripes, Brian. Just bin the thread.

[monster]

Actually, I consider this crap. Be a freakin' moderator.

Yeah, you have a legitimate beef with Oliver Tse. Cool.

Either get him carded, banned, or whatever - but at the very least - be a moderator. This is Business & Media. This thread clearly doesn't belong at this point.

If you want "public humiliation as a punishment for hubris" why does it have to be in this forum?

Seriously? And after all these years, what makes you think he cares?

Cripes, Brian. Just bin the thread.
The thread title is accurate. They are not invited. Oliver has a false premise. It has been pointed out.

Why should I bin the thread, Andy? Because you would if you were moderator?

[MasterShake29]

Wow. This guy is an idiot. Last time I ever read one of his posts.

When he posts factual stuff about TV, his posts are mostly good. For example, he posted today that FSC will have the T&T-Bahrain series, which I didn't know until I read it.

It's speculation like the above that gets him into trouble.

[pc4th]

Even if you ignore the fact that Club America has to play in the CCC, why wouldn't AEG wants to invite Club America?

With Club America in the tournament, you will
1) sell more tickets
2) more sponsors money
3) sell more merchandise
4) more parking and concession money
5) better TV rating

[sidspaceman]

AEG or SUM doesn't invite anybody the FMF decides who plays in the interliga.

[Gioca]

To completely turn around the subject and make this thread a place where I can spread my inane propaganda, I think TV should not have a role in any soccer decisions. Interliga, MLS's awkward summer season, teams spread around the US like magnets being repeled by each other, night games, etc. TV's are all rubbish the whole lot of them. Whoever needed a TV, it's just another thing society wants you to buy to conform.

[monster]

Even if you ignore the fact that Club America has to play in the CCC, why wouldn't AEG wants to invite Club America?

With Club America in the tournament, you will
1) sell more tickets
2) more sponsors money
3) sell more merchandise
4) more parking and concession money
5) better TV rating
I believe CONCACAF said that if you are in the CCC, you cannot be in the Liberatadores. Hence, no invite to the Interliga. I could be wrong, but that is my recollection.

[Autogolazo]

Let's remember that Pumas and Monterrey (best and runners up) from LMF last year didn't play in this past Interliga because they were in CCC.

Pachuca, Tigres and Chivas were the Mexican League teams that wound up with berths in the Copa Libertadores 2005.

All I can figure is that the Mexican teams have done the math and that they could make more money by winning the CCC and then doing well in the annual World Club Championship.

If you win CCC, that means you've had 3 home dates, plus a slice of the pie for the WCC TV rights, etc., and prize money for however well you do at the competition.

Average Copa Libertadores run means 3 home dates from the group stage, and maybe one or two more home games from the knockout round. And a much smaller cut of the much smaller TV pie.

It's a calculated risk (and it backfired on Pumas this year when they lost to Saprissa), but this almost has to be $$$ driven.

[texgator]

So, we can officially add this to the list of things that Oliver speculated on without any real knowledge of and was proven completely wrong? Great. Let me check the tote-board.....this becomes #457. Although I have to say, this is probably the first one in which Oliver was proven wrong within seconds of posting. Good job, you have truly outdone yourself.

[chapulincolorado]

AEG or SUM doesn't invite anybody the FMF decides who plays in the interliga.

....and of course the idea that AEG can tell....nay...ORDER FMF and The MegaMediaEmpira known as TeleVisa what to do and who to play in the Interliga....well..that merits at minimum a: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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As confirmed by Decio de Maria Serrano at the teleconference, FMF Secretary General, on November 6th, America was not one of the teams due to their involvement in the Copa Campeones CONCACAF 2006. A quick look at Televisa's web page which carried the following press wire from EFE:

http://www.esmas.com/deportes/futbol/485788.html

El América no competirá debido a que su condición de campeón del Torneo Clausura 2005 mexicano lo obliga a jugar la Copa de Campeones de la CONCACAF del 2006. -- America will not compete due to its condition as champion of the mexican Closure Tournament 2005 that obligates them to play CONCACAF Champions Cup 2006.

BTW, from some of the press comments--

Ovaciones
http://www.ovaciones.com/futnac/TIGRES.html

Por cierto el evento será transmitido por la cadena Fox Sports en TV restringida, mientras que se negocia en TV abierta con Televisa.--Also the event will be transmitted by the network Fox Sport in restricted TV, while it's been negotiated in open TV with Televisa.

La Jornada

http://www.jornada.unam.mx/2005/11/08/a22n1dep.php
Ayer, en la conferencia de prensa realizada en el inmueble de la federación, Nelson Rodríguez, representante de SUM, rechazó revelar cifras sobre las ganancias de la anterior Interliga y tampoco quiso señalar qué porcentaje irá a las arcas de la FMF. De María, a su vez, dijo que son asuntos administrativos de manejo interno. Yesterday, in the press conference that took place at the federation's building, Nelson Rodriguez, SUM representative, refused to reveal the figures over the profits from the previous Interliga and neither did he want to indicate the percentages that will go to the FMF's coffers. De Maria, in turn, stated that those were administrative workings of an internal nature.

The money must be good for both or else SUM/MLS and FMF wouldn't be so chummy.

[sidspaceman]

Let's remember that Pumas and Monterrey (best and runners up) from LMF last year didn't play in this past Interliga because they were in CCC.

Pachuca, Tigres and Chivas were the Mexican League teams that wound up with berths in the Copa Libertadores 2005.

All I can figure is that the Mexican teams have done the math and that they could make more money by winning the CCC and then doing well in the annual World Club Championship.

If you win CCC, that means you've had 3 home dates, plus a slice of the pie for the WCC TV rights, etc., and prize money for however well you do at the competition.

Average Copa Libertadores run means 3 home dates from the group stage, and maybe one or two more home games from the knockout round. And a much smaller cut of the much smaller TV pie.

It's a calculated risk (and it backfired on Pumas this year when they lost to Saprissa), but this almost has to be $$$ driven.
Mexican teams have no choice in the matter. In order to hold the interliga the FMF had to get approval from CONCACAF. The only condition that CONACAF asked for was that the champions of the Mexican league have to play in the CCC and not the interliga.