Riots in Paris suburbs

[YankBastard]

God, we missed you...

Well thank you. :cool: So does all of Paris look like that?

[patrickm]

i still say that part of the problems are inherent to muslim people in general. their religion is so warped (i.e., sexist, homop[hobic, imtolerant, anti-intellectual, anti-education, and just plain ignorant) that many if not all of their problems are internal. i watched "the battle of algiers" the other day and cheered when ali la pointe was blown up. a hard man, that french officer.

[Sachin]

Well thank you. :cool: So does all of Paris look like that?
It looks no different than Brooklyn.

Sachin

[YankBastard]

It looks no different than Brooklyn.

Sachin

That bad, eh?

[sl7vk]

(i.e., sexist, homop[hobic, imtolerant, anti-intellectual, anti-education, and just plain ignorant)

Wow! You just descriped the American Christian Right to a tee!

[Sachin]

That bad, eh?
You've obviously never been to Brooklyn.

[Sachin]

Wow! You just descriped the American Christian Right to a tee!


And the French Left!

Sachin

[sl7vk]

And the French Left!

Sachin

Well as much disdain as I have for the PS, I wouldn't describe them as this.....
i.e., sexist, homop[hobic, imtolerant, anti-intellectual, anti-education, and just plain ignorant
More aloof, snobish, detached.... etc..

[guignol]

And the French Left!

Sachini suppose you read the nouvel obs and télérama?

and i admire someone who can get from CDG to the left bank and then say it looks like brooklyn. you should give tours! sachin's secret itinerary for crossing all of paris without seeing it!

[fishbiproduct]

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[Sachin]

i suppose you read the nouvel obs and télérama?

and i admire someone who can get from CDG to the left bank and then say it looks like brooklyn. you should give tours! sachin's secret itinerary for crossing all of paris without seeing it!
Have you ever been to Brooklyn?

OK, how does this strike you:

A city made up of small neighborhoods where people live above street-level shopping. Cars and pedestrians manage an uneasy co-existence leading to a lack of street parking and a lack of adequate sidewalk space. Old and new exist side-by-side with high-end stores sitting side-by-side with small mom-and-pop operations. There are few big stores, except on main boulevards.

Several neighborhoods are in transition from staid, working class communities to younger, hipper nightspots as restaurant owners take advantage of cheaper rents to open new spots.

Does that work as a comparison?

Sachin

[sl7vk]

Hmmm.... I like Brooklyn and all, but I don't see it in the same light as the most visited city in the world.

[uclacarlos]

i still say that part of the problems are inherent to muslim people in general. their religion is so warped (i.e., sexist, homop[hobic, imtolerant, anti-intellectual, anti-education, and just plain ignorant) that many if not all of their problems are internal.
What a prick.

Sooo, what do you make of the non-Muslim protesters? Are their problems "internal". Dont'cha think there may be some connection to the after-effects of European colonization? And wouldn't that be external?

[sl7vk]

What a prick.

Sooo, what do you make of the non-Muslim protesters? Are there problems "internal". Dont'cha think there may be some connection to the after-effects of European colonization? And wouldn't that be external?
Finally a decent post... Repped.

[patrickm]

What a prick.

Sooo, what do you make of the non-Muslim protesters? Are there problems "internal". Dont'cha think there may be some connection to the after-effects of European colonization? And wouldn't that be external?


hey My new best friend,

they can always go back to algeria or whatever 3rd world hell hole they are from. if you don't like europeans then don't live in europe.


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Please refrain from the insults. There will be no other warnings, to anyone.

[uclacarlos]

hey puto vato,
:rolleyes:

It's against the terms of services to lance insults. Back off.

they can always go back to algeria or whatever 3rd world hell hole they are from. if you don't like europeans then don't live in europe.
I'm not even going to argue w/ this neanderthal.

[patrickm]

how do you think french immigrants would be treated if they moved en masse into algiers? probably significantly worse than the way the algerians have been treated moving into france. these immigrants always have the option of moving back to their own country or adjusting to the dominant culture where they live. its one or the other. paris is not going to turn into riyadh.

[Sachin]

Except a lot of them aren't immigrants. They are the children of immigrants, which is a very different thing.

Sachin

[uclacarlos]

how do you think french immigrants would be treated if they moved en masse into algiers? probably significantly worse than the way the algerians have been treated moving into france. these immigrants always have the option of moving back to their own country or adjusting to the dominant culture where they live. its one or the other. paris is not going to turn into riyadh.
Why not?

The Americas turned into Europe West. Speaking European languages even. Using Euro laws.

You see, that's what happens when cultures come into contact. They negotiate and form new identities.

And guess what happens when one country (say, France) goes and "colonizes" (i.e. takes over militarily, economically, politically and keeps the best for itself and fails to develop a sustainable infrastructure for a modern, late capitalist economy) another country: the colonized country ends up having to alter radically their existing identity, and they resent it. Like what happened in the US w/ the native populace.

By colonizing No. Africa for so long, essentially what France did was advertise the "greatness" of France, ie that it is/was superior to the native country. So why are we shocked that they have "bought" 200 years of advertisement?

And seriously, if you come back at me w/ the "wull, they can just go back from whence they came", and you say it in English and not Algonquin or Cherekee or even Nahuatl or Navajo, then shut up w/ your simpleton "I'm too stupid to understand global immigration dynamics" "rhetoric". :mad:

However, I will offer you an out: just try and explain the connection btw the late Enlightenment notion of "government of the ppl, for the ppl, by the ppl" and the notion that an Enlightened citizen has the inalienable right to choose their citizenship.

I'll give you a clue: in late Enlightenment/Romantic political philosophy, the individual reigns supreme.

[gaijin]

how do you think french immigrants would be treated if they moved en masse into algiers? probably significantly worse than the way the algerians have been treated moving into france. these immigrants always have the option of moving back to their own country or adjusting to the dominant culture where they live. its one or the other. paris is not going to turn into riyadh.

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Ah, there is always the pied-noir...Now of course they did suffer. Just a shame they actually did suffer more in France than they did in Algeria. Guess things never change eh? Or do they.... :rolleyes: