Richardson or Park?

[hawk_claw]

Take your pick.
Got home to watch the ManU-Lille match at about the 30th minute. It was until about the 50th minute, that I realized that Park was on the bench, and Richardon started over him. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who feels that Park is a much better player than Richardson. He maybe even outclass Giggs at times.
We paid, what, 4.5 mil, for him? How about we put him to good use.
Just my 2-cents.

Who would you start with Giggs injured?

[StrikerCW]

Giggs would have scored.

edit: but thats not the question. I have no doubt that Park is the better player, but he just CAN NOT score for the life of him. Richardson on the other hand is faster, can dribble better but CAN NOT cross. So pick your poinsen I guess.

[hawk_claw]

Giggs would have scored.
or...
he would've delivered quality balls to the middle

what was up with silvestre's pointless long balls??!

[littleman]

or...
he would've delivered quality balls to the middle

what was up with silvestre's pointless long balls??!

Why point out only at Silvestre? The WHOLE defence was doing long balls. Smith and Fletcher did ZERO 1-2s.

[K:theCore]

He was never a prolific scorer with PSV either. But the opportunities he created were sublime. Im not gonna disagree with anyone here though. His finishing stinks.

But lets not forget that he's still settling with the team. Everything here is new to him.

I say by next year, he will be well established and fully deserving of wearing the 1st team red shirt.

[littleman]

He was never a prolific scorer with PSV either. But the opportunities he created were sublime. Im not gonna disagree with anyone here though. His finishing stinks.

But lets not forget that he's still settling with the team. Everything here is new to him.

I say by next year, he will be well established and fully deserving of wearing the 1st team red shirt.

Park created more chances than Richardson in half the time. AND less than half the ball possession. Richardson lurked too much in the middle, and he's really not quality enough to play in the middle. Park had ball possession, I think, 3 times in the game. Actually, I think our team's possession was probably 30 or 40%.

[sungy]

once park gets that first goal, i think he will score regularly. last year in psv, during the end of the season, he couldn't stop scoring. i think he'll maybe bag around 5-7 goals this season.

[Sofabloke]

Depends on other players, looks to me that Richardson is mainly left footed and Park right footed. Ronaldo looks compromised when asked to play on the left to acoommodate Park, but then Park looks far more of a threat than Richardson. Tricky one.

[K_19]

Speed: KRich > Park.
Experience: KRich < Park.
Shooting: KRich > Park.
Positioning sense: KRich < Park.
Passing: Even?
Workrate: KRich < Park.
Freekick: KRich > Park.
Crossing: Both suck.

In the long term, I don't really see the two becoming a competition for each other, though... Kieran is left footed, and is more suited for the left side, and I can see Park becoming more of a midfielder in the future rather than a winger like Kieran. ATM, I'd just keep Kieran at Left back and keep them playing at the same time.

[StrikerCW]

I can forsee a time when both can start, KR if he keeps improving his positioning and defense at LB after Heinze, maybe battling with Spector. Then Park on the left wing, with that young guy Beckham-esque on the right, with Cron as SS up top with Rossi :D And Rooney in behind.

[K_19]

A little something I noticed about Park so far:

Park seems to play MUCH better on the right side and get involved in the game more from that side of the field, but his shooting when playing on the right has been absolutely horrendous. Meanwhile, he plays arguably much less effectively from the left side, but he seems to take much better shots at net from that side (e.g: the crossbar against Villa, and that ball Breen cleared out against Sunderland). This is most likely due to him being right footed, though. I'd say Ronaldo is more effective opposite-side player (in regards to his main foot, that is).

Since I like him playing more effectively rather than being more of a scoring threat, I'd like to see him play more on the right side. He seriously needs to work on the crossing ability from that side, though. He hasn't had a single threatening one the whole season.

BTW, Park kept up his streak of drawing a Yellow Card from the opposition whenever he plays... heh. Something interesting to keep track of, I'd say.

[K:theCore]

He played his best ball with PSV on the left though. Granted his cast in the middle was a better one.

I think the key to Park though is that he needs to become the focal point of the offense (like he was with PSV his last year) since he plays directly and unselfishly. Plus he draws a lot of penalties. That'll come once his mates become more acquainted with him and his style.

Its not going to happen overnight but he needs to get the ball a lot more. To some, he might look like he's running around aimlessly but he did the same with PSV and he did a lot with those "aimless" runs once he had the ball.

[StrikerCW]

It seems all our midfield players need to be the focal point of the attack. Like you said, Park. Fletcher with Scotland having all the play through him. Cron with Portugal being their go to guy up top (that might not be true though).

[littleman]

Speed: KRich > Park.
Experience: KRich < Park.
Shooting: KRich > Park.
Positioning sense: KRich < Park.
Passing: Even?
Workrate: KRich < Park.
Freekick: KRich > Park.
Crossing: Both suck.

In the long term, I don't really see the two becoming a competition for each other, though... Kieran is left footed, and is more suited for the left side, and I can see Park becoming more of a midfielder in the future rather than a winger like Kieran. ATM, I'd just keep Kieran at Left back and keep them playing at the same time.

I disagree with your ratings.. we should compare the most important general attributes (which are of course, hard to measure and subjective).

Forward penetration (vision, contribution to attack, etc): Park > Richardson
Defense : Park > Richardson
Speed : Richardson > Park

I justify this by noting that Park's display since his debut has been relatively good. Great one touches, some class off-the-ball movement, and dribbling that not only gets forward but PENETRATES. What I mean is that their defence gets hit and disorganized.

What I really like Richardson over Park is his blistering speed.. he's saved about 3-4 balls launched in counter-attack by opposition just because he's really quick, and gets to the ball before anyone else. Apart from that, Richardson is far from the complete footballer. And we haven't seen Park do free`s yet (he does take them), so I can't judge.

Park was also bought as a LMF, which is contrary to your idea that they wouldn't compete for the same slot. But I get what you mean.

[Motterman]

I don't think either one is good enough. Park is a useful sub though. I'm turned off of Richardson presently. I've heard things about his attitude in the past, and Keane's public comments have confirmed what I've felt about him for a few years. It's almost like he's a "Big Time Charlie", but has won ******** all.

[MtP07]

I don't see Park being a United quality midfield starter, but I do like what he brings to the team as a sub. Richardson will also be a good back-up at LW and LB, but I don't see him ever breaking into the first team, unless someone's injured.

[Vermont Red]

After watching Richardson last night, I don't ever want to see him in midfield again. Back-up LB and that's it. I'll take Park any day over Richardson.

[junjunforever]

Park is going to start scoring sooner or later. He is getting enough chances.

One thing is though, is that when Park takes the shot from his right foot, he will try to control it with a curve. But when he takes a left-footed shot, he will slam the ball really hard.

And Park has scored against France, Portugal and AC Milan (and almost twice if it the defender didnt block it with his hand) with his limited chances, so i'm sure he won't have trouble scoring against some lower level premiership teams once he gets on a roll. Actually, if i think about it, all the goals he scored against those three quality teams mentioned above were from his left foot.

[K_19]

I disagree with your ratings.. we should compare the most important general attributes (which are of course, hard to measure and subjective).

Forward penetration (vision, contribution to attack, etc): Park > Richardson
Defense : Park > Richardson
Speed : Richardson > Park

I justify this by noting that Park's display since his debut has been relatively good. Great one touches, some class off-the-ball movement, and dribbling that not only gets forward but PENETRATES. What I mean is that their defence gets hit and disorganized.

Yeah, in the general sense, I agree with that (I did grade the speed, though). Park brings more to the team in general IMO and Richardson brings more of the individual talent to the mix, and in the long run I'd say that Park is more beneficial for a team to have out there (though Richardson has great individual talent, I wouldn't call it gamebreaking quality, like CRon's).

What I really like Richardson over Park is his blistering speed.. he's saved about 3-4 balls launched in counter-attack by opposition just because he's really quick, and gets to the ball before anyone else. Apart from that, Richardson is far from the complete footballer.

Richardson brings amazing top speed into the mix... he seems to have great hustle and run a lot, too. However, we should also mention how great Park's acceleration is off the ball. He could be SO quick off the ball initially, and that is most likely how he draws all those cards every game.

And we haven't seen Park do free`s yet (he does take them), so I can't judge.

I have (for Kyoto and occasionally for PSV or the National team), and I can tell you that he isn't stellar in it. He isn't BAD at it, of course, but if he was great at them, he would be taking them regularly for the NT and he NEVER has. I guess what I'm saying here is that Park isn't bad at taking set play balls, but is merely average... Kieran is better in this field.

Park was also bought as a LMF, which is contrary to your idea that they wouldn't compete for the same slot. But I get what you mean.

Too bad he isn't being used as LMF at the moment :p thank 4-3-3 for that. My impression was that Kieran was always more of a winger? That was the thing. Though SAF does seem adamant about keeping Park as a winger at this time...

[CanadianGook]

Depends on other players, looks to me that Richardson is mainly left footed and Park right footed. Ronaldo looks compromised when asked to play on the left to acoommodate Park, but then Park looks far more of a threat than Richardson. Tricky one.
wan't his shot he missed w/ his left? i'm not too sure...but i think it was parks left...maybe that's why he missed. but i do remember him scoring w/ his left foot several times for psv and korea.