Adu and the salary cap

[dcchelseafc]

Alright, just read this today, I forget where. If we keep Adu this year he will count 550,000 against the cap. How are we going to keep everyone? will Moreno take a pay cut? what do you guys think? is there a way to solve this, or just get rid of Freddy or what? should be a very interesting offseason. This could become a problem.

[dcgoonies]

I don't think any team can afford his full hit. Hence, only part of his salary will count.
Does Donovan count full 900k for LaLa gals? No, of course not.
The league has a certain amount of leeway when they make their own rules.

[Knave]

He will not count 555,000 against the cap. Nobody in MLS counts more than something like 300,000 against the cap no matter what they're actually payed. As for Adu, I suspect the competition committee will settle on a cap hit that's actually considerably less than even 300,000.

[dcchelseafc]

He will not count 555,000 against the cap. Nobody in MLS counts more than something like 300,000 against the cap no matter what they're actually payed. As for Adu, I suspect the competition committee will settle on a cap hit that's actually considerably less than even 300,000.


Well in that case,lets make his salary 20k and some how 530k shows up at his front door :)

I was not aware of that, I always thought that after the 2 years his whole salary was going to count against the team. Is there a definte on how much the salary cap is going to be next year?

[Th4119]

Well in that case,lets make his salary 20k and some how 530k shows up at his front door :)

I was not aware of that, I always thought that after the 2 years his whole salary was going to count against the team. Is there a definte on how much the salary cap is going to be next year?

Kind of like an NFL player making $56 million over six years with a base salary of $380,000.

Signing bonuses and incentives are a hell of a concept, aren't they?

[John_Harkes_6]

As has been discussed on many other threads - there is no "cap" anymore. It is more of a "budget". Teams like LA and Chivas are well over the old "cap" even if you only count the $300k or whatever that used to serve as the most any salary could count. Essentially if the team owner is willing to pay for a player then they are free to sign him.

[Foousic]

yeah we'll hit or not they still should get rid of him

[Grasscutter]

As has been discussed on many other threads - there is no "cap" anymore. It is more of a "budget". Teams like LA and Chivas are well over the old "cap" even if you only count the $300k or whatever that used to serve as the most any salary could count. Essentially if the team owner is willing to pay for a player then they are free to sign him.
Not sure where this is coming from. There is still a defacto cap that is tempered by: a) players who make more than the individual cap only counting up to $300,000; and b) the numerous allocations and partial allocations that allow a team some extra cap space.

If there is no cap, why would teams (Galaxy; Metros) have traded players for allocations earlier this year? And the league probably spent more money in Petke/family cross-country flights and housing assistance than DC saved by cutting him in June, but there seems to be little doubt that United felt it had to get rid of Petke in order to squeeze Facu under the cap.

I do agree that the cap is overly loose and poorly defined, and at this point in MLS history, the piling on of allocations (i.e. cap relief) is like people with hyphenated last names begetting children and grandchildren.

In our division, KC and C-bus will get they-suck allocations, but (I'm guessing) KC will lose its Preki allocation and C-bus (from memory, plus I'm still guessing) will have lost a full Razov allocation and received only a partial for having dealt him to Metros, so the league will be able to mitigate the you-suck allocates.

The cap maneuvers are about as transparent as the Anacostia (see "D.C. Refused Allocation for Nelesen"), but the cap exists and it greatly affects player transactions.

All of that said, I'd be surprised if Freddy counts any more than $70,000 against the cap next year.

[John_Harkes_6]

Not sure where this is coming from. There is still a defacto cap that is tempered by: a) players who make more than the individual cap only counting up to $300,000; and b) the numerous allocations and partial allocations that allow a team some extra cap space.


Do a search on Lieweke or Beckham rule (or find some old threads on the current salaries) and you will find the old rules aren't the current rules. The new proposals are that you can acquire a player like Beckham or Adu and as long as the club pays the salary and not MLS that is fine. The "cap" of old no longer exists. Certain teams have chosen to go over the cap (LA, Chivas) while some clubs have chosen to stay well under (KC, NE).

Yes they still have league handouts in the form of allocations and such but all that enables a club to do is push those payments onto MLS rather than having the IO fund the acquistion.

[superdave]

Do a search on Lieweke or Beckham rule (or find some old threads on the current salaries) and you will find the old rules aren't the current rules. The new proposals are that you can acquire a player like Beckham or Adu and as long as the club pays the salary and not MLS that is fine. The "cap" of old no longer exists. Certain teams have chosen to go over the cap (LA, Chivas) while some clubs have chosen to stay well under (KC, NE).

Yes they still have league handouts in the form of allocations and such but all that enables a club to do is push those payments onto MLS rather than having the IO fund the acquistion.
But Beckham would still count $300K or whatever the max. salary is. It's just that the Gals could pay him $3M on top of that, and it's allowed.