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El Yucateco
01 Nov 2005, 04:39 PM
It seems to me that the thing that would improve the quality of play in our region would be for the caribbean nations to band together and form a united West Indies team as is the case with cricket, because many of the nations in the caribbean have a couple of players in Europe or MLS. I honestly think the West Indies could field a considerably more talented side than Costa Rica and would improve the overall competitiveness in the region. As a Mexican, I just wanted to run that by you caribbeans.
Warlord
01 Nov 2005, 06:27 PM
It seems to me that the thing that would improve the quality of play in our region would be for the caribbean nations to band together and form a united West Indies team as is the case with cricket, because many of the nations in the caribbean have a couple of players in Europe or MLS. I honestly think the West Indies could field a considerably more talented side than Costa Rica and would improve the overall competitiveness in the region. As a Mexican, I just wanted to run that by you caribbeans.
Your comments are most appreciated, but on a more realistic level that will not happen. There's too much national pride in countries like Jamaica and Trinidad & Tobago. We as carribeans love to be competitive and CFU will never go for it. There's too much of a rivalry between Jamaica and Trinidad to begin with.
DominicanStrikeForce
01 Nov 2005, 08:33 PM
It seems to me that the thing that would improve the quality of play in our region would be for the caribbean nations to band together and form a united West Indies team as is the case with cricket, because many of the nations in the caribbean have a couple of players in Europe or MLS. I honestly think the West Indies could field a considerably more talented side than Costa Rica and would improve the overall competitiveness in the region. As a Mexican, I just wanted to run that by you caribbeans.
This topic has been dicussed before. Not one person supported this way of thinking.
Popol Vuh
01 Nov 2005, 08:59 PM
I think they should unite,with the exception of T&T and Jamaica.
yankiboy
02 Nov 2005, 01:52 PM
Warlord and DominicanStrikeForce are right. We have been down this road before. It's never gonna happen. Too much national pride at stake.
As a Puerto Rico supporter, I would rather continue to be the laughing stock of the Caribbean than ever support a "Unified Carribean" team. Never. Over my dead body. I don't even want my adopted homeland of Puerto Rico's team merged with my true homeland, USA and we share citizenship, currency, etc.
If a Puerto Rico player wants to play for the US then great. I'm all for it. Same goes for a nonPuerto Rican US guy who wants to represent Puerto Rico. Great. But merging any Puerto Rican and US national teams--hell no.
The Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico and Cuba wouldn't want to field a team together and those three nations have a lot in common way beyond language.
Besides, FIFA would never allow it anyway. Nations must compete under the authorization of their own football associations...
Never gonna happen. People don't want it. Hell. I'm not even Caribbean and I don't want it.
DaMunk
02 Nov 2005, 03:28 PM
Yank,
rep for you. Good summarization of the previous exhaustive threads. My face is still blue from trying to explain why this is such a horrible idea...especially coming from people from outside the caribbean.
Is the BS search engine gone?
Renegade
02 Nov 2005, 07:12 PM
I think the Central American Teams and Mexico should unite and then they could compete with Brazil & Argentina. Take a spot and join the South American Federation that would leave three spots for the rest of N. America and the Caribbean. That would insure the US, Jamaica and T&T world cup spots. :D
Popol Vuh
02 Nov 2005, 07:42 PM
I think the Central American Teams and Mexico should unite and then they could compete with Brazil & Argentina. Take a spot and join the South American Federation that would leave three spots for the rest of N. America and the Caribbean. That would insure the US, Jamaica and T&T world cup spots. :D :eek: , stop smoking that stuff boy. ;)
mcruic
02 Nov 2005, 08:01 PM
I think that CONCACAF and CONMEBOL teams should all merge and form one united Americas team, then they would have a better chance of winning the World Cup and there would not be any need for any qualification rounds :D Seriously though, who wants to combine countries? Same in UK. There will never be a national side if it means that Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, England cease to exist as footballing nations. Too much national pride. Antigua, St.Kitts, Barbados, even islands as small as Anguilla, all have history and national pride to play for. Hell, let's just merge the world and see what happens :p
562nation
02 Nov 2005, 08:25 PM
Well Ive always wondered why they dont create some kind of caribbean soccer league, taking the top teams from each island or top two. or something of that nature, wouldnt it help to develop more players for alot of these island nations.
Popol Vuh
02 Nov 2005, 08:29 PM
Well Ive always wondered why they dont create some kind of caribbean soccer league, taking the top teams from each island or top two. or something of that nature, wouldnt it help to develop more players for alot of these island nations.thats a good idea, I wish they could do that in Central America.
Warlord
02 Nov 2005, 10:52 PM
Well Ive always wondered why they dont create some kind of caribbean soccer league, taking the top teams from each island or top two. or something of that nature, wouldnt it help to develop more players for alot of these island nations.
And who would foot the bill for travel costs, hotel accommodations? :rolleyes:
Warlord
02 Nov 2005, 10:59 PM
Well Ive always wondered why they dont create some kind of caribbean soccer league, taking the top teams from each island or top two. or something of that nature, wouldnt it help to develop more players for alot of these island nations.
Some of the better developed nations have a league in place and are starting to produce some decent talent. Cornell Glenn for example played for professional side San Juan Jabloteh in Trinidad. Scott Sealey also played there before moving to Kansas City Wizards. I remember reading that Metrostars even toured Trinidad sometime in '04 and played 2 games against W Connection FC. so there is some level of development. There are probably more technically skilled players playing in the Carribbean than in the MLS.
FlashEP
03 Nov 2005, 02:37 AM
It seems to me that the thing that would improve the quality of play in our region would be for the caribbean nations to band together and form a united West Indies team as is the case with cricket, because many of the nations in the caribbean have a couple of players in Europe or MLS. I honestly think the West Indies could field a considerably more talented side than Costa Rica and would improve the overall competitiveness in the region. As a Mexican, I just wanted to run that by you caribbeans.
don't worry about the CFU. Unlike the UNCAF we've had sum good teams go to the world cup, Jamaica (France 98), Haiti (Germany 74), Cuba (France 38) and now Trinidad and Tobago are trying to get to the "promised land that is Germany" in their qualifications this month. I'm not trying to hate on the UNCAF it's just i find the fact that they get so much hype in this region yet teams like Panama, Guatemala, Belize, and Nicaragua have yet to go. But good luck to all the teams from this region no matter what part. and even though it has nothing to do with this subject, i think the ticos are going to be the cinderella team of the World Cup, remember where u heard it first
BBC_
03 Nov 2005, 07:38 AM
It seems to me that the thing that would improve the quality of play in our region would be for the caribbean nations to band together and form a united West Indies team as is the case with cricket, because many of the nations in the caribbean have a couple of players in Europe or MLS. I honestly think the West Indies could field a considerably more talented side than Costa Rica and would improve the overall competitiveness in the region. As a Mexican, I just wanted to run that by you caribbeans.
This as been done before. Pointless topic less players will break through to professional leagues which will send caribbean football backwards
MoRado
03 Nov 2005, 04:46 PM
I think the Central American Teams and Mexico should unite and then they could compete with Brazil & Argentina. Take a spot and join the South American Federation that would leave three spots for the rest of N. America and the Caribbean. That would insure the US, Jamaica and T&T world cup spots. :D
i hope the US divides itself into 52 different countries so we can have the biggest confederation of all.
Renegade
03 Nov 2005, 07:54 PM
You guys don't get it. Each National Federation means a vote in FIFA. That's why CONCACAF is more politically powerful than the South Americans. So we need more countries to form football federatins, and soon we'll have five spots. Why do you really think there's not a UK team. It's a political voting block in FIFA. My original post was in jest, but in reality our regional federation has alot of political power in FIFA.
As for a regional professional league we have the MLS. It helped every country improve its players. Just look at T&T and you know we've benefited from the MLS.
Who would have known about Stern John, Avrey John, Cornell Glen except fot the MLS.
yankiboy
04 Nov 2005, 07:18 AM
You guys don't get it. It's a political voting block in FIFA.
......My original post was in jest
Bro, we got it. It was obviously a joke. I don't think that too many people took it too seriously.
Renegade
04 Nov 2005, 10:58 AM
Bro, we got it. It was obviously a joke. I don't think that too many people took it too seriously.
Everyone should take things I say seriously, even when I am joking. ;) I know that most folks knew I spoke in fun, but remember many posters are young, and do not see the big picture beyond their national team. If we think regionally about football and are successfull, then we can think regionally about other issues, but that's for another board.
Warlord
04 Nov 2005, 11:36 AM
As for a regional professional league we have the MLS. It helped every country improve its players. Just look at T&T and you know we've benefited from the MLS.
Who would have known about Stern John, Avrey John, Cornell Glen except fot the MLS.[/QUOTE]
What exactly are you saying here? You don't think none of these players' talent was enough to market them without the MLS?
For starters Dwight Yorke NEVER played in the US. Cornell Glenn went on Trial for a team in Portugal before he went to the MLS. Avery John played in Ireland before joining the MLS, and I can name a few more players who didn't need the MLS to earn a professional contract in Europe. So to make an idiotic comment like "no one would know about players from the carribbean if they never played in MLS" is quite simply a stupid.
Talent speaks for itself. Teams send their scouts everywhere in the world when they're scouting players. Now let me ask you, how many players in MLS do you see being courted by European teams? ;)