View Full Version : What the Hell FSW?!!
Cantona
24 Dec 2002, 12:21 AM
what is going on at FSW....
I tuned into my PPV match on sunday...
a huge derby game Liverpool v Everton...
and my commentators are Christian (8yrs old)Miles
and Nicky (im a common englishman) Webster..
at first I thought.. ok .. its a one-of maybe audio
problems... at one point the audio of the twi feed
came in and I heard Ian Darke....so Ok...Ill just
deal with these amateurs....
Then today.. I pop in the tape of the Tottenham
Man City game... and once again... Webster and
some Spanish guy....
WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING FSW!!!!
you have the TWI feeds... use them!... why are you
choosing amateur commentators that blab at the
mouth over commentators from the host nation that
have over 20-30 years of experience....
Give me a commentator at the grounds that knows
what the hell is going on...
I prefer British commentators, but ones that have
applied their trade and have experience and have
a grasp of the english language. Webster is
annoying... every time he mention the "pool" I
wanted to cringe.. It goes to show the naysayers that an english voice can be just as annoying
If this is what they are going to offer... I wont
get the PPV package next year...they are THAT
annoying... Id rather listen to the Internet
Broadcasts....
I know its slow during the holidays... but get them
to clean up the office instead of hitting the
commentary boothe.
Cantona-----
Fohlen61
24 Dec 2002, 01:54 AM
Unbelievable! I actually had to turn the sound off. Today's match (ManCity:Spurs) was possibly the most annoying broadcast I've heard in a while. No, sorry, that's probably overstating it since there have been innumerable annoying matches on FSW. I remember trying to watch the Liverpool:FCBayern match a couple of years back when they had two announcers (the tiresome Bretos and some other dude) who apparently tired of actually doing play-by-play (admittedly, it was a boring match with nobody in the stands in Monaco but they were still horrible). Plus, there is just about every Bundesliga match when I have to totally block out Hopkins' voice from my ears. I can't even remember anything that's said in those matches anymore.
Today's was brutal. I missed the first half and when I turned it on, the Latin guy (I forget his name and where he's from) was trying to explain something in a very halting English while the play kept moving on and on...and on. For a moment, I was wondering if I had the wrong audio selected. From what I heard, the English dude seemed to know what he was doing but his voice was so weak I had to stop listening. I can't believe they've done this and ESPECIALLY to the PPV matches. That's deplorable. I can't imagine the original voices being that cost prohibitive. It took me a LONG time to get over the loss of the original voice of the Bundesliga (whose name escapes me at the moment...Toby Charles???) and I can't imagine getting over this...EVER.
Native Aztexan
24 Dec 2002, 02:21 AM
:o *yarn* :o
Blong
24 Dec 2002, 02:22 AM
If this is what it takes to free up funds for better matches(La Liga) then I can deal with it.
Boo Hoo. Call your own matches.
Fohlen61
24 Dec 2002, 03:57 AM
"Boo Hoo"??? What're you...9? And, by the way, I do call my own matches and have been in the biz for over 20 years, so, nah-nah-na-nah-nah. These guys are terrible. Plus, as I wondered before, how much money can they be saving???
Etienne_72772
24 Dec 2002, 09:28 AM
I clicked on this thread expecting a fantastic rant about Fox Sports World, and my ranters were Cantona and Fohlen61! At first I thought, ok, maybe the thread will just get better, but no! And talk about Amateurs! Geez, Cantona only has about 200 posts, and Fohlen61 only has 3! If this is what passes for quality rants these days, I don't think I'll be getting the Premium membership!
I know it's slow during the holidays... but get them
to clean up the office instead of hitting the
bigsoccer boards.
Ala Simpsons Comic Book guy: "Worst rants ever!"
QPR Kevin H
24 Dec 2002, 10:06 AM
Originally posted by Blong
If this is what it takes to free up funds for better matches(La Liga) then I can deal with it.
How does hiring two people to talk over commentary (already provided by the League) save money?
Blong
24 Dec 2002, 10:18 AM
They were already on the payroll. Tell them to do 4 games a week instead of 3.
subbuteo
24 Dec 2002, 11:47 AM
ye's being spoiled brats in my opinion...
happy holidays!
andylovesoccer
24 Dec 2002, 12:01 PM
FSW shows us Americans more EPL than they show in England, so you were lucky to be watching the game to begin with. But you do have a point about the Spanish guy for the ManCity/Spurs game. I swear he kept saying Tottingham. But I sat throught it and was annoyed and cringed every time I heard him say Tottingham, then I thanked FSW for showing the match.
Turn down the volume of it bothers you that much.
RhinosBoy21
24 Dec 2002, 12:08 PM
Americans have no idea how a well game is annouced so i don't see why they are responding. I definetly agree with Cantona and the others that FSW should be using British feeds for their broadcasters. Turning the volume down and what ever the hell you said was just the dumbest sh!t i'v ever heard in my life.
andylovesoccer
24 Dec 2002, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by RhinosBoy21
Americans have no idea how a well game is annouced so i don't see why they are responding. I definetly agree with Cantona and the others that FSW should be using British feeds for their broadcasters. Turning the volume down and what ever the hell you said was just the dumbest sh!t i'v ever heard in my life.
excuse me?
luvdagame
24 Dec 2002, 01:16 PM
i don't mind the local announcers. the man. city/tottenham game was a lot of fun. i enjoyed the announcers as well.
Cantona
24 Dec 2002, 02:28 PM
i agree turning down the volume is idiotic..
commentators are supposed to enhance the game,
but when you have these idiots calling the game
it detracts from it alltogether...
they have the TWI feed.... there is no reason
to use these idiots.....
The TWI feed is shown all around the world
in africa to australia... and they use the british
TWI crew... so why does the US have to put up
with a rambling englishman that sounds he just
left the pub and 8yr old sounding Miles or the
hispanic guy? Where is the logic?
whoever the idiot mentioned about the # of posts
i make.... what the hell has that to do about
anything...... i dont spend my life on a computer
not like half the 18yr olds on this board... i only
participate in this forum because it can be a source
of good information regarding viewing football. This
is not a rant... I am questioning a business
decision of FSW to use amateur commentators..
these guys do not measure up to the knowledge
and experience of the TWI crew...
Why try to fix something that is not broken?
Cantona---------
paulocesar
24 Dec 2002, 03:05 PM
I agree with not using Miles for EPL games...and the other guy was horrible in the Liverpool-Everton match.
It was so bad, that in the bar in philly that i was watching the game at (the Dark Horse), i heard the other 15-20 or so people mentioning that they haven't heard such shite commentary for the EPL in years...
(I don't want to go on a tangent about Tommy "Manure is the greatest team ever. even before football was invented" Smythe, Ty "my dad was on that U.S. 1950 team that beat England" Keough, and of course, the infamous Jack-ass "climb the ladder, thread the needle, the game is on, me eyes have seen the glory" Edwards do for US, MlS, and UCL games....ya know what crap commentary ahead of time with those calls, so one is prepared for lameness there.)
And for those who say "quit complaining and turn the volume down", I reply, would you do the same for NBA, NHL, NFL and other American sports if you heard lousy commentary??? Honestly, would you really?? I didn't think so.
superdave
24 Dec 2002, 03:13 PM
Could it be that they didn't want spoilers? I would think that the live announcer for Everton-Pool mentioned when the goal was scored in Blackburn-ManU.
BTW, the guy they had doing the German games last year SUCKED HARD!!! "Tomas Rosicky, 21 years of age and a X million dollars transfer, is tackled by Tony Sanneh, the American transfer from Hertha Berlin. But it's taken away by Jan Koller, 28 years of age."
If there was a game show based around knowing the ages and transfer fees for BL players, this guy was a gold mine. Otherwise, he SUCKED HARD!!!
andylovesoccer
24 Dec 2002, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by paulocesar
And for those who say "quit complaining and turn the volume down", I reply, would you do the same for NBA, NHL, NFL and other American sports if you heard lousy commentary??? Honestly, would you really?? I didn't think so.
I often watch NFL matches without sound, not usually because of the crappy commentators, but because of all the commercials. I guess I am just used to having to tune out or turn down crappy announcers, but i can follow the game fine, and usually better, than with those blithering idiots confusing things. Honestly, when the US plays, I usually spend a good portion of the game incredulously questioning most of what comes out of Jack and Ty's mouths, which is a distraction form the game.
Turning down the volume is no more idiotic than bitching incessantly about the announcers.
mbar
24 Dec 2002, 10:04 PM
I'm as big a supporter of American soccer and American announcers as there is. But, for FSW the ability to use English commentators for EPL games is an asset that enhances their broadcast. I too was very disapointed by their decision to not use the English feed.
I paid a ton of money for the PPV package this year, if the company continues to use the American announcers I won't next year. Simple as that.
The question would have to become, will they gain more viewers and subscribers by using American announcers then they'd lose? I doubt it.
Mike
futbolnut
24 Dec 2002, 11:23 PM
I am also bothered by the switch to FOX's own announcers for the EPL games. I basically agree with Cantona's arguments. There is nothing wrong with demanding the best product available, especially on the PPV games. I suggest like-minded individuals E-mail FSW with their protests...maybe they'll listen.
P.S. why can't we get the English pre-game and half-time shows on the subscription EPL package. BTW, I am a proud American, its just that the English do a better job of presenting the match.
jmeissen0
25 Dec 2002, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by futbolnut
I am also bothered by the switch to FOX's own announcers for the EPL games. I basically agree with Cantona's arguments. There is nothing wrong with demanding the best product available, especially on the PPV games. I suggest like-minded individuals E-mail FSW with their protests...maybe they'll listen.
P.S. why can't we get the English pre-game and half-time shows on the subscription EPL package. BTW, I am a proud American, its just that the English do a better job of presenting the match.
how many different soccer websites are you going to post this on??
give a rats ass about the u.s. game... who cares about some euro spanks??