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SueB
27 Dec 2002, 04:01 PM
That's probably it, then. I've seen the same word used in reference to Inter's Uruguayan player Alvaro Recoba, whose nickname is "El Chino". To me, that stands on its own and doesn't need translating, but English articles tend to refer to him as "the Chinaman".

SueB
27 Dec 2002, 04:07 PM
It's kind of similar to calling a black player a "boy". I think in other places, it's not such a problem, but in the US, forget it. I remember an old hockey announcer calling one of the first black players in the NHL a "boy", while praising his abilities. For the life of him, he couldn't figure out what the problem was. The history of black - and Asian - servitude in this country makes these words unacceptable here, whereas they might not have quite the same meaning elsewhere.

anderson
27 Dec 2002, 05:20 PM
I recall that "Chinaman" reference as well. It really jumped out at me because, as superdave points out, it's just not something you hear in the US. But the "El Chino" reference about Recoba, points out how differently these things are viewed in other societies. It's very common in Latin American broadcasts for the announcers to refer to players by some racial or ethnic term that would be completely unacceptable in the US. You can actually hear those terms pretty regularly on the FSE broadcasts from Argentina, Colombia, and Chile. In Brazil, some players' nicknames are based entirely on their racial or ethnic backgrounds (Preto, Indio, Pretinha, Alemao, etc.).

Cantona
27 Dec 2002, 06:51 PM
cj90red... thanks for the research...
maybe you learned something.............

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Boxing day indeed was a treat.... even the
Sky feed.... lovely....

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regarding this chinese thing.. TWI had complaints
from S.Africans regarding the pronounciation of
Lucas Radabe'.... they corrected themselves..

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to everyone who says dont complain at least your
watching it... your wrong... the feeds are already
in the contract... you actually are paying these
two idiots to do what already is being done...

so you getting less for more...

doesnt make business sense does it....
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about the spoiler thing... i think most people
realise now that on sunday the live game is played
after the delayed FSW game... most just time shift

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there have been many complaints to FSW.... maybe
they ARE listening.....


Cantona---

Native Aztexan
27 Dec 2002, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by Cantona
cj90red... thanks for the research...
maybe you learned something.............

Yeah, that you complain too much. How about talking about the match itself instead of who's calling or not calling the match. And for christ sake RELAX and enjoy the beautiful game. Life's too short to get angry over a little thing.

Fkesoccer
27 Dec 2002, 10:13 PM
Just a difference of countries, thats all.

futbolnut
28 Dec 2002, 08:50 PM
Hey, I don't think anyone should be termed a whiner because the FSW announcers are not their number one choice. Hell, I'd still watch no matter who was calling the game.
I sure would like to see some official confirmation that the "chinaman" thing caused the change. Anyway, it seems we're back to normal on the broadcasts for now.

DennisM
02 Jan 2003, 11:36 PM
I have to agree. The announcers were bad. I don't get FSW so thankfully I don't have to hear them that much. It was great hearing Martin Tyler and Ian Darke and whoever else does the Sunday matches. That reminds me. The guy who did the Bundesliga en Espanol was good. He at least didn't try to talk a mile a minute and allowed for the crowd to make some noise instead of talking over them.