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Gunner Phan
19 Oct 2005, 02:10 PM
excellent.

do you know if any record companies have offices in Chicago? we're talking rock music, that sort of thing, not blues and jazz (which there are a few of in Chicago)? A coworker just got laid off and used to do communications stuff. A group met for drinks last night after work and he was talking about trying to find a job in the music industry in Chicago somewhere.

tons of advertising agencies in chicago (music supervision), promoters maybe but as for record companies...most big labels are either in Santa Monica or NY. I'd be happy to check around...do you know specifically what he wants to do or just 'something in music'?

Bluto11
19 Oct 2005, 02:13 PM
tons of advertising agencies in chicago (music supervision), promoters maybe but as for record companies...most big labels are either in Santa Monica or NY. I'd be happy to check around...do you know specifically what he wants to do or just 'something in music'?
thats what i figured. and i don't know what specific area he wants to be in. I think he's got a few interviews lined up with promoters and some PR firms

Gunner Phan
19 Oct 2005, 02:15 PM
thats what i figured. and i don't know what specific area he wants to be in. I think he's got a few interviews lined up with promoters and some PR firms

i'll scope around...another tool would be through billboard.com....I believe he can register for a job listing site (through berkelee music)...I did that when I first began looking to get back into music. Tell your boy publishing is where it's at...labels will never be the same as the once were and that landscape will be in fluxuation for a few years.

Bluto11
19 Oct 2005, 02:19 PM
i'll scope around...another tool would be through billboard.com....I believe he can register for a job listing site (through berkelee music)...I did that when I first began looking to get back into music. Tell your boy publishing is where it's at...labels will never be the same as the once were and that landscape will be in fluxuation for a few years.
thanks! i'll pass it along.


he's burning me a Paul Weller (sp?) cd

HighburyGoon
19 Oct 2005, 03:39 PM
As an "old school" U2 fan, I would take 40 over anything from Actung Baby any show of the week......of course I have not wanted to see a U2 show since the Joshua Tree tour either.........

Don't get me wrong, I'm one of those people who think they should end EVERY SHOW with "40." It's just that I'd already seen this exact same show in the spring, and when a band comes back into town on a second or third leg of a tour, you expect something different. Here are the setlists from all four shows that I saw this tour:

May 14, 2005 / Philadelphia, PA
Venue: Wachovia Center

Main Set: City of Blinding Lights, Vertigo, Elevation, The Electric Co., An Cat Dubh - Into the Heart, Beautiful Day, Miracle Drug, Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own, Love and Peace or Else, Sunday Bloody Sunday, Bullet the Blue Sky - When Johnny Comes Marching Home, Running to Stand Still, Pride, Where the Streets Have No Name, One

Encore(s): Zoo Station, The Fly, Mysterious Ways, All Because of You, Yahweh, 40

May 22, 2005 / Philadelphia, PA
Venue: Wachovia Center

Main Set: City of Blinding Lights, Vertigo - Stories for Boys, Elevation, Gloria, The Ocean, Beautiful Day - Ultraviolet, Miracle Drug, Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own, Love and Peace or Else, Sunday Bloody Sunday, Bullet the Blue Sky - When Johnny Comes Marching Home, Running to Stand Still, Pride, Where the Streets Have No Name, One

Encore(s): Zoo Station, The Fly, Mysterious Ways, With or Without You, All Because Of You, Yahweh, 40


October 16, 2005 / Philadelphia, PA
Venue: Wachovia Center

Main Set: City of Blinding Lights, Vertigo, Elevation, The Electric Co., The Ocean, I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For, Beautiful Day, Miracle Drug, Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own, Love and Peace or Else, Sunday Bloody Sunday, Bullet the Blue Sky, Miss Sarajevo, Pride, Where the Streets Have No Name, One

Encore(s): The First Time (acoustic), Stuck In A Moment You Can't Get Out Of, Fast Cars, With or Without You, All Because of You, Yahweh, 40

October 17, 2005 / Philadelphia, PA

Venue: Wachovia Center

Main Set: City of Blinding Lights, Vertigo, Elevation, I Will Follow, The Electric Co., I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For - Promised Land, Beautiful Day, Miracle Drug, Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own, Love and Peace or Else, Sunday Bloody Sunday - Exodus, Bullet the Blue Sky, Miss Sarajevo, Pride, Where the Streets Have No Name, One

Encore(s): Walk On (acoustic), Fast Cars, People Get Ready, With or Without You, All Because of You, 40

Now, I understand that you're going to play the greatest percentage of songs from the new album, but with a catalogue as vast as theirs, it just shocked me that they skipped nearly 10 years of their history during the fall tour shows.

What I'm really upset about is that I went to four shows and didn't get a single "Bad." It's my favorite song, and they have been playing it this tour. I understand that if you only go to one show, you have no right to complain, but I went to four!!!!

It's like that time I drove all the way up to Maine to see Phish, stood in the freezing cold rain (in August) only for them to not play my favorite, "Mike's Song" the entire weekend!!!!

Gunner Phan
19 Oct 2005, 03:45 PM
Mike: didn't I tell you U2 is wack? Yeah, I think I did :p.....imagine if phish had played 2 identical shows in the same town in the same year....

HighburyGoon
19 Oct 2005, 03:54 PM
Mike: didn't I tell you U2 is wack? Yeah, I think I did :p.....imagine if phish had played 2 identical shows in the same town in the same year....


All hell would have broken loose. 2 identical shows in the same town ever, and we would have phreaked. However, there's a bit of a different set of expectations for jam bands, and regular bands. While I make allowances for regular bands to play standard setlists, I really did expect at least some changes.

Gunner Phan
19 Oct 2005, 03:56 PM
All hell would have broken loose. 2 identical shows in the same town ever, and we would have phreaked. However, there's a bit of a different set of expectations for jam bands, and regular bands. While I make allowances for regular bands to play standard setlists, I really did expect at least some changes.

i know it's comparing apples and oranges...phish being the almighty Apple....:D

Bluto11
19 Oct 2005, 04:02 PM
Mike: didn't I tell you U2 is wack? Yeah, I think I did :p.....imagine if phish had played 2 identical shows in the same town in the same year....
DMB played pretty much the same set in Chicago and Champagin-Urbana, IL two nights in a row a few years back.

not happy about it

not a "jam" band. but they have a big catalouge

Gunner Phan
19 Oct 2005, 04:06 PM
DMB played pretty much the same set in Chicago and Champagin-Urbana, IL two nights in a row a few years back.

not happy about it

not a "jam" band. but they have a big catalouge
:mad: don't get me started on DMB.

which year/tour are you talking about? at least you got 12.2.98 - THAT is an amazing show.

HighburyGoon
19 Oct 2005, 04:06 PM
i know it's comparing apples and oranges...phish being the almighty Apple....:D


Dude, check out this review I wrote of a Phish show back in 2003:



Tweeter Center - Camden, NJ 7/30/03

A Sort Of Homecoming

Set I:
My Friend My Friend
Lonesome Cowboy Bill
Scents and Subtle Sounds
You Ain’t Going Nowhere
Spock’s Brain
Chalkdust Torture
On Your Way Down
Fast Enough For You ->
Taste

Set II:
Twist
Bug
You Enjoy Myself
Walls of the Cave

Encore: Secret Smile

After three years away, I embraced my first Phish show since September 2000 with open arms. I got home from work at 8:30 Wednesday morning after having worked a 12 hour overnight shift. This meant I had about 3.5 hours of sleep when Wooly decided it was time to go. After the requisite stop for beer (two bottles of the Belgian masterpiece, Lucifer, for me) we were on our way. Wooly drove us up I-95 and over the Walt Whitman bridge into Jersey. Unfortunately, the ramp for 676 towards Camden was closed, so we were forced to take the local route through the city. Not to sound insensitive, but if you were to take all of your visions of urban blight from around the country, and concentrated them in one place, you’d have a pretty good idea of what Camden’s like. Despite it being such a hellhole, or perhaps because of it, the state decided it would be a good idea to build it’s aquarium there, along with a performing arts center and a minor legue ballpark. While all the facilities are nice, I don’t know anyone who doesn’t want to get the heck out of Dodge as soon as the show’s over.

Immediately upon arriving in the parking lot, all of the old familiar sights, sounds, and smells of life on tour bombarded my senses. I was filled with a renewed excitement. It was a feeling I hadn’t had in quite some time. At the shows in 1999 and 2000, I felt that perhaps I had grown out of this “phase” and that while the music was great, the scene was not for me anymore. Well, despite there being many young faces in the lot, there was still enough for me here to recall the good times. The weather was perfect, about 85 degrees Farenheit, and the sky was a beautiful shade of blue. As Wooly and I wandered around the lot, we came across an old favorite. In years past it was known as “Phatty Phatty Pizza.” Unfortunately, our old friend Nugs was not around, but there was a lovely young lady serving up slices of French bread pizza in the tradition of good old Nugs, and my slice was very tasty.

We continued down “Shakedown,” and saw lots of great new t-shirts being sold. Four in particular caught my eye. Two were based on “The Matrix” saga. On the front of the first was a picture of a red pill, and beneath was the quote from the first film “Take the red pill and see just how deep the rabbit hole really goes.” On the back it said, “Phish Summer Tour: Reloaded” and listed all of the tour dates. The second shirt was black, and simply had the “Matrix” code on the front, with the word “Maze” written in “Matrix” style - very cool. Too bad then that neither shirt came in “Garcia size.” Saddened that neither shirt would fit, I was glad to find two others that do. The first is in the style of the label of a bottle of Samuel Smith’s beer. It reads, “Sneakin’ Sally Nutbag Ale,” and just below, “First brewed at Hunts, October 30, 1985.” Great looking shirt. The second has a drawing of the 1980s era Grateful Dead done in the style of “The Simpsons.” Too cool to pass up.

With shopping completed, it was time to turn our attention to finding our friends. Grabbing his binoculars out of the car, Wooly announced, “I’m hunting Tauntauns!,” and ventured forth to locate Brian and Karen. While Wooly was away, I took the time to make a quick pit stop. It was then that the most bizarre moment of my day occured. While waiting in line for the port-o-pots, a young lady tapped me on the shoulder, and asked if she could use my shirt as toilet paper. My blank face must have conveyed my shock, as she then clarified that it was not the shirt on my back that she wanted, but perhaps any other shirt that I might have. Not being interested in sacrificing any shirt, no matter how worthy the cause, I quickly surveyed the surroundings, and came up with a solution - a hot dog vendor about 100 feet away. I suggested that she try getting some napkins from him. Crisis averted. I made my way back to the car, and about ten minutes later, a very proud-looking Wooly returned, Brian and Karen in tow. We were soon joined by Wooly’s friend Mitchell, and his girlfriend whose name escapes me right now (if I remember it, or if someone tells me, I’ll edit the post.) Several hours spent in the lot meant that it was now time to head into the show.

Quickly finding our seats, we did not have to wait long before the band came on. To say this was a show of firsts would be putting it mildly. Of the fourteen songs the band played, there were eight that I had never seen performed live. The opener, “My Friend My Friend” was the first of the eight, and was a harbinger of things to come. Next was “Lonesome Cowboy Bill” the great Velvet Underground cover, followed by new song “Scents and Subtle Sounds.” “Scents…” was a fantastic new song, very mellow, with a good jam that lasted over twenty-five minutes. Another cover came next, Bob Dylan’s “You Ain’t Going Nowhere.” This was the first time Phish played the song, and it was nice to hear. “Spock’s Brain” brought back memories of my first Phish show at the Mann in Philly back in 1995. “Chalkdust Torture” is a welcome addition to any show, and this one was played to perfection. “On Your Way Down” and “Fast Enough For You” made it five “first-time-heard” songs out of six. A blazing version of “Taste” closed out the first set, and left us all wondering what crazy directions the band would take us in the second.

The answer came in the form of an absolutely sick “Twist,” a second set opener that featured a jam that seemed it could go on forever. “You Enjoy Myself” was the crown jewel of the second set, sandwiched between two more “first-time-heards,” “Bug,” and “Walls Of The Cave.” I liked “Bug,” but “WOTC” absolutely blew me away. I had liked the song when I heard it on “Round Room,” but here in a live setting it took on a life of its’ own, and completely sucked me in. After four songs, which lasted about ninety minutes, the set was over, and the band left the stage to rapturous applause. Looking back, I wish the show had ended then. What happened next left a very bitter taste in my mouth, and feelings of anger and resentment towards my fellow fans. Phish played new song, “Secret Smile” as the encore, and while it’s a nice enough song, I questioned it’s placement as the encore. Apparently, I wasn’t the only one who felt this way. I was however, one of the few who kept this view to themselves. As the band took their bows, they were showered with a chorus of boos. I was reminded then that we were just across the river from Philly, and it seemed that the Philly curse had risen again. I knew it applied to atheletes; but to have it happen to musicians as well? That’s too bad, as the show was a fantastic one despite the strange encore choice, and the booing was completely uncalled for. My only hope is that Phish overlook the incident and don’t nix Philly from their fall tour plans. A bittersweet ending to an otherwise perfect day.

... and that was just the encore!!!!!

Bluto11
19 Oct 2005, 04:18 PM
:mad: don't get me started on DMB.

which year/tour are you talking about? at least you got 12.2.98 - THAT is an amazing show.
first concert ever for me :)

December 13th, 2002 at the United Center:

When The World Ends *
Captain *
What Would You Say *
Grace Is Gone *
Grey Street *
Dancing Nancies *
Warehouse (Stop-time Intro) *
Fool To Think *
Bartender *
Don't Burn The Pig *
Loving Wings (tease) * -->
Where Are You Going *
One Sweet World (Instrumental Intro) *
The Stone *
All Along the Watchtower *
Encore
Christmas Song +
Everyday (#36) *
* Butch Taylor on keys
+ Dave and Carter only

then Dec 14th at Assembly Hall in Champaign:

When The World Ends *
You Never Know *
Crush *
Grace Is Gone *
So Much To Say --> *
Anyone Seen the Bridge? -->
Too Much *
Bartender *
Everyday (#36) *
Loving Wings --> *
Where Are You Going *
Fool To Think *
Grey Street *
Song That Jane Likes *
What Would You Say *
What You Are *
offstage 10:16pm
Encore
onstage 10:23pm
Christmas Song +
Halloween (tease - first verse and chorus, slower version) --> +
Ants Marching *
offstage 10:39pm
* with Butch Taylor on keys
+ Dave and Carter only

not exactly the same, but a lot of repeats. Did get Song that Jane Likes and a tease of Halloween

Gunner Phan
19 Oct 2005, 04:37 PM
2000 - 2003 dmb's worst setlist years. that's why.....at least you saw x-mas song and STJL....

my first dmb show:

jul.25.1995
Dave Matthews Band
Classic Amphitheater, Richmond Virginia
Jul. 1995
Opening Band: Dionne Farris, The Samples

Seek Up
Drive In Drive Out
Two Step
The Best of What's Around
Dancing Nancies
Lie In Our Graves
Recently
Angel From Montgomery
The Song That Jane Likes
Jimi Thing
Typical Situation
Tripping Billies
#36 -->
Ants Marching
I'll Back You Up
All Along the Watchtower

Bluto11
19 Oct 2005, 04:40 PM
agreed with the setlists in those years.

they haven't been too good since 2000.

feej92
19 Oct 2005, 04:47 PM
How many times have we asked each other the following question...

"If you could be sure of CL success, would you give up the prem title?"

I'm starting to feel that this might be the reality this year and I still don't know how I feel about it.

Sorry, I know that was not really OT.

OOT: hmmm...that would be cool IF we beat manure twice in the prem, home-and-away in CL...then the chavs at highbury in the prem and home-away CL...oh, and let's beat em both in FA Cup as well :p

Neoą
19 Oct 2005, 04:49 PM
Whats an interesting way of saying "Whats Up"

Gunner Phan
19 Oct 2005, 04:57 PM
Dude, check out this review I wrote of a Phish show back in 2003:




... and that was just the encore!!!!!

yeah...I remember hearing the windfall of that show...yes, secret smile sucks, I too would be upset of the encore choice but you know that anything can happen at a phish show.

Gunner Phan
19 Oct 2005, 05:00 PM
agreed with the setlists in those years.

they haven't been too good since 2000.

to be phair they have been doing a much better job on the setlists in the past 2 years....bringing back #34, Say Goodbye, etc....they just need to bring back 'Proudest Monkey'.....

Bluto11
19 Oct 2005, 05:06 PM
to be phair they have been doing a much better job on the setlists in the past 2 years....bringing back #34, Say Goodbye, etc....they just need to bring back 'Proudest Monkey'.....
yeah. i saw them at Alpine summer of 2004. it was a good show, with some of the new ones mixed in, plus Guster opened.

Hello Again
Granny
#41
The Stone
Crazy Easy
So Much To Say -->
(Super Freak) -->
Too Much
Bartender
When the World Ends
Help Myself
I’ll Back You Up
Joy Ride
Grey Street
Sugar Will
Ants Marching
Everyday

Encore:
Typical Situation
Warehouse

it was right after Rick James died, so instead of Anyone seen the Bridge between SMTS and Too Much they did a little break down with Superfreak.

Gunner Phan
19 Oct 2005, 05:19 PM
I've seen roughly 40 or so dmb shows: highlights: 12.30/31.95 hampton new years run; 12.31.96 w/bela fleck....the GREATEST LIOG ever. 4.30.96 Crash release show 4.18.98 Crowded Streets release show

EDIT: 9.1.96 in NC - sick granny....during the 'love/baby' part, Darius Rucker and Marc (guitarist) from Hootie came out - Darius sounded awesome.