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appoo
17 Oct 2005, 12:28 PM
This is as close to international soccer as MLS can get so it's especially worthwhile to see which players rasie their play

San Jose vs LA

1. All eyes will be on LA's #10. traditionally Landon has played his best soccer during the playoffs - but he's been weird this season. Not playing poorly by any stretch of the imagination....but not playing nearly to his abilities. How he responds here is going to be very interesting since USA desperaratly needs a fully in form Landon Donovan in the World Cup. Landon needs to show he he can play well in the clutch.

2. Herculez Gomez - is perhaps coming into his own at exactly the right moment. however, this is a pretty good litmus test. San Jose have the best backline in MLS and the steadiest keeper, so if he shows well here, he'll have earned it. It's especially important to see how he plays becaise of the razor thin depth we have at forward.

3. Ricardo Clark - a long shot for the world cup, but he's a dynamic player and my personal choice for MVP along with Shalrie Joseph. He's a classic box-to-box midfielder and he'll be in the spotlight of the playoffs in the HDC, the leg which will be nationally televised.

FC Dallas vs Colorado

1. Ramon Nunez is the 2nd brightest star in MLS behind Fredd.....oh wait. never mind. USA fans have no real reason to watch FCD here. Unless you like saying the name Wagonfuer, which is actually pretty fun. Almost as fun as repeating Fecundo Erpen.

2. Kyle Beckerman - just keep an eye out on the central midfielder. He graduated in the same Bradenton class as Landon and he's got some talent.

3. Pablo - if only to make sure he doesn't get hurt. Pablo doesn't have a thing more to prove and he's got his ticket to Germany booked. Then again, he'll have to battle Armas for #1 destroyer.

New England - Metros

#1 - Clint. Clint. Clint. for a month, this guy looked like the best player in MLS. He's an All XI player but he's got some issues out there. In the playoffs, one has to play smarter than he normally does. Let's see how intelligently he plays. Also be interesting to track risky chances taken and number of turnovers. He thinks he is better than he actually is, and that kills his game sometimes IMHO. If he can show he can play within himself here, I like his chances for USA.

#2 - Taylor Twellman. I don't want him to finish chances. I want to see him create chances. for either himself or his teamates.

#3 - Mike Parkhurst. He's a very good defender. just watch how good he is against a decent Metro strike force.

#4 - Eddie Gaven - it's his last chance to shine. He better take it. He's been a dissapointment this season and I don't even know if a great playoff run will be enough to get him noticed again by Bruce. He's tentative, he lost his aggression...he's just a different player this year. Eddie, go back to your all XI form and you have an arguement for making your way into the Jan camp.

#5 - Youri Djorkaeff - to see how this game is supposed to be played. what a joy to watch. If his team didn't suck, he'd be getting MVP votes.

DCU - Chicago

#1 - Freddy. When he's one his game, there isn't a single player in MLS who comes even close to him other than Ramon Nunez or Landon Donovan when they play well. He is a complete attacking player. He can shoot from distance, he can bury em up close. He can dribble past a defender, or he blow past him with his pace. He's got extraordinary vision and the passing abiliti to go with it. If he raises his game, and he gets the opputunity, DCU will win MLS Cup with ease. He's that talented and at times, has been that good this year.

#2 - Santino Quaranta - He's played all over the attacking 3rd for Novak. In another pressure situation for the kid, he'll get another shot to impress the National team coaches. While he plays 3rd fiddle to Moreno and Gomez, he's possibly the most purely talented starter and will need to step up if DCU wants to get past NE and Freddy doesn't take over.

#3 - Justin Mapp - For the national team, he was over aggressive. Let's see what he can do in another pressure situation, and plays smarter, knowing that Arena and Co. will be watching. He has the ability to take this match up with DCU over and turn this into a HIGHLY entertaining 2 games.

#4 - Chris Armas - for obvious reasons. He's played well this season IMHO, and he's tied neck and neck with Pablo for #1 destroyer.

MikeLastort2
17 Oct 2005, 12:32 PM
Fantastic idea for a thread!

socks
17 Oct 2005, 12:34 PM
speaking of landon, has he improved over the last 4 years in some aspect of his game or has he peaked?

appoo
17 Oct 2005, 12:42 PM
speaking of landon, has he improved over the last 4 years in some aspect of his game or has he peaked?


by leaps and bounds.

He's a better player today than he was in the World Cup, but he was a more effective player in 2002 because he only had one responsibility, attack. Now he plays central midfielder and he worries about keeping possesion, getting everyone involved, making everyone else better, etc. When he can doall of that, it's fantastic and we're at our best. But more often than not, has struggled with this new role over the past year or so. He's still good enough individually to make an impoact whenever he goes out for the most part....but he's still sturggling with this weight.

Thats what I want to see in the playoffs. If he can succesfully lift his team past a vastly superior side, I thnk he can do it for USA. Otherwise, it might be time to consider taking some of that weight off his shoulders

MikeLastort2
17 Oct 2005, 01:11 PM
This is going to be all about the "bubble" players for me. Barring injury, Donovan, Armas and Mastroeni have all pretty much booked their tickets for Germany.

If Pablo does eclipse Armas, does that also open up the possibilty, however remote, for Brian Carroll making the team? I think his chances are less than 10%, but he is definitely on the horizon.

FC Tallavana
17 Oct 2005, 01:13 PM
This is going to be all about the "bubble" players for me. Barring injury, Donovan, Armas and Mastroeni have all pretty much booked their tickets for Germany.

If Pablo does eclipse Armas, does that also open up the possibilty, however remote, for Brian Carroll making the team? I think his chances are less than 10%, but he is definitely on the horizon.

Armas has booked a ticket?! Hope it's a refundable fare.

appoo
17 Oct 2005, 01:17 PM
Armas has booked a ticket?! Hope it's a refundable fare.

if you know of a better pure destroyer other than Mastro, please, let me know who. People always talk about his offensive deficiencies but thats not why he plays for USA. Why judge a player on what he can't do? isn't it better to judge him on what he CAN do?

FC Tallavana
17 Oct 2005, 01:25 PM
if you know of a better pure destroyer other than Mastro, please, let me know who. People always talk about his offensive deficiencies but thats not why he plays for USA. Why judge a player on what he can't do? isn't it better to judge him on what he CAN do?

Anyone can do what he does if they completely gave up any hope of contributing to the attack in the same manner that Armas does. Hell, I'd bet Freddy Adu could play some defense if that's all anyone expected of him.

MikeLastort2
17 Oct 2005, 01:31 PM
Armas has booked a ticket?! Hope it's a refundable fare.

What other players on the horizon are going to knock Armas out between now and June 2006? I think it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that Armas is a lock for the squad next summer.

Winds350
17 Oct 2005, 01:43 PM
What other players on the horizon are going to knock Armas out between now and June 2006? I think it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that Armas is a lock for the squad next summer.

I don't think it's question of someone beating out Armas for the second destroyer slot. I'm not convinced there is going to be a second destroyer slot. If JOB and Reyna are healthy, they go. Mastro goes as the d-mid option. I'm not sure that on a 23 man roster for the tournament, you can afford a single position guy that deep on the depth chart.

MLSNHTOWN
17 Oct 2005, 01:44 PM
What other players on the horizon are going to knock Armas out between now and June 2006? I think it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that Armas is a lock for the squad next summer.

Sorry I completely disagree. I think he is a probably for Germany, but he is anything but a lock. Looking at our MF, there are plenty of players who may be shifted out of the midfield (LD to forward or Lewis to LB).

Locks if healthy: LD, DMB, Reyna, Lewis, JOB

That is five spots right there out of eight. With Q/Ralston, Convey, Mastro, etc. all in possibilities, you can't call Armas a lock.

I don't know what Arena is going to do when he gets down to the nitty gritty, but in the end it is VERY PLAUSIBLE that Reyna, JOB and Mastro are the only d-mid types brought to Germany.

MikeLastort2
17 Oct 2005, 01:49 PM
At this point I'm not convinced that Mastroeni has eclipsed Armas as the #1 destroyer at this point in time, at least as far as Arena is concerned.

Put it this way - if Armas remains healthy and doesn't go to Germany next summer, I'll be surprised. Pleasantly surprised, but surprised nonetheless. ;)

ursula
17 Oct 2005, 01:53 PM
appoo- I think you should have come out clean and said something like, "I like these players and I want to watch them in the playoffs", and stuck this thread in the MLS general board. As it is putting it here gives the thread an illegitimate Nats veneer while you are including some players who are not about to get Nats time (Adu, Parkhurst) while omitting others who are more in the picture (Noonan, Ralston, Carroll) or who are obviously international caliber (Joseph, Ruiz, etc) or who might also eventually be in the picture (Jaqua, Rolfe, etc). Your player comments further underscore this.

MLSNHTOWN
17 Oct 2005, 02:09 PM
As it is putting it here gives the thread an illegitimate Nats veneer while you are including some players who are not about to get Nats time (Adu, Parkhurst) while omitting others who are more in the picture (Noonan, Ralston, Carroll).

Stop hatin on Adu.

FirstStar
17 Oct 2005, 02:15 PM
by leaps and bounds.

He's a better player today than he was in the World Cup, but he was a more effective player in 2002 because he only had one responsibility, attack. Now he plays central midfielder and he worries about keeping possesion, getting everyone involved, making everyone else better, etc. When he can doall of that, it's fantastic and we're at our best. But more often than not, has struggled with this new role over the past year or so. He's still good enough individually to make an impoact whenever he goes out for the most part....but he's still sturggling with this weight.

Thats what I want to see in the playoffs. If he can succesfully lift his team past a vastly superior side, I thnk he can do it for USA. Otherwise, it might be time to consider taking some of that weight off his shoulders

Just reason #152 that we need a healthy Claudio Reyna next summer.

ursula
17 Oct 2005, 03:17 PM
Stop hatin on Adu.


lol. Maybe you should tell me to stop "hatin" on Parkhurst too! I don't hate Young Fred. I'll bet he's the starting a-mid in 2010. Doesn't mean he should be getting any time yet with the Nats. Nor is he a legit starter for DCU though I would love it if he made an impact every game in the playoffs.

Truth hurts I guess.

HartwickFan
17 Oct 2005, 03:28 PM
Great post, Appoo! It will be interesting to see how Donovan does. I will feel a lot better about our chances in Germany if he turns his game up a notch during the playoffs, and shows that he really is the type of player who rises to the occasion.

It will also be interesting to watch all those other players you mentioned -- so many young players on the outside looking in, who, if they really light it up, could play themselves onto the roster (Clark, Mapp, Adu, Gomez, Quaranta).

MLSNHTOWN
17 Oct 2005, 03:29 PM
lol. Maybe you should tell me to stop "hatin" on Parkhurst too! I don't hate Young Fred. I'll bet he's the starting a-mid in 2010. Doesn't mean he should be getting any time yet with the Nats. Nor is he a legit starter for DCU though I would love it if he made an impact every game in the playoffs.

Truth hurts I guess.

If you could trade Adu right now (solely based on what they bring to the field...and what you think they will bring next year), which a-mids in MLS would you trade him for straight up?

Adam Zebrowski
17 Oct 2005, 03:43 PM
lalas wants a gaven for adu straight-up....

as to adu, a january camp is NOT unrealistic...

the points been raised, on how many mls sides who he be a starter???

just because dc has a couple really good uns in front of him, doesn't mean adu can't play...

still adu has about 5% chance of making a roster for june 2006....

MarioKempes
17 Oct 2005, 03:43 PM
If you could trade Adu right now (solely based on what they bring to the field...and what you think they will bring next year), which a-mids in MLS would you trade him for straight up?

Djorkaeff, Donovan, Guevara. That's about it, really. I could mention Ronnie O'Brien and Simon Elliot, but I think Freddie's upside is greater. There's no question in my mind that Freddie will be a top 3 player in this league in 2 years. However, the timing is not quite right for his inclusion in WC 2006.