Does it bother anyone here not to have scored the 5th, let alone the 6th goal

[jambon-beurre]

Et un, et deux, et trois zéro!

Sorry, I couldn't resist. :D

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to sl7vk again. ;)

[midknight]

Et un, et deux, et trois zéro!

http://www.footforever.com/English/World_cup_en/Images_en/CM_1998_015_Final_Brazil_France_goal_E_Petit_1_en.jpg

Sorry, I couldn't resist. :D

This is as intelligent a post as the guy who posts 2-0 every time a fight starts up between the US and mexico fans.

I have another one song:

et un et deux et trois zeros:

France - Senegal 0-1
France Uruguay 0-0
France Denmark 0-2

:D

[Pierre-Henri]

et un et deux et trois zeros:

France - Senegal 0-1
France Uruguay 0-0
France Denmark 0-2

:D

Such offense, monsieur ! Three centuries ago, it would have ended like this :

http://home.comcast.net/~burrowses/Suspects/Duel-1.jpeg

[fishbiproduct]

http://www.rikruca.dk/images/VM1986/Brazilian%20captain%20Edinho%20and%20his%20French%20colleague%20Michel%20Platini%20before%20kick-off.jpg

"Hello. Remember me?"

:D

[sl7vk]

This is as intelligent a post as the guy who posts 2-0 every time a fight starts up between the US and mexico fans.

I have another one song:

et un et deux et trois zeros:

France - Senegal 0-1
France Uruguay 0-0
France Denmark 0-2

:D

Any post by anyone who likes Brazil, Ireland, the Czech Republic, and what I can only imagine is Trinidad and Tobago needs to be taken with a rather large grain of salt.
It always amazes me how short people's memories are.
People forget how much France struggled to qualify for the Euro in 2000, I recal a 1-0 win over Andorra on a dodgy penalty call in the 80th minute or something to that effect..... Yet they won the tourny. Most teams that qualify have a good chance of winning..... Except for Trinidad and Tobago of course.

[midknight]

Any post by anyone who likes Brazil, Ireland, the Czech Republic, and what I can only imagine is Trinidad and Tobago needs to be taken with a rather large grain of salt.
It always amazes me how short people's memories are.
People forget how much France struggled to qualify for the Euro in 2000, I recal a 1-0 win over Andorra on a dodgy penalty call in the 80th minute or something to that effect..... Yet they won the tourny. Most teams that qualify have a good chance of winning..... Except for Trinidad and Tobago of course.

Well apparently i've touched a sensitive spot... ;) It was all in good fun sir.

I haven't 'forgotten' how France qualified for the euro; i've never followed the qualification process for a continental tournament before euro 2004. I'm not using the current qualification cycle to infer anything on france's chances for 2006, i was just trying to get some serious feedback on certain things that would bother me if it was MY national team. I follow them that closely because i don't have cable and its the only national team of which i am assured to see the matches live.

I support Trinidad and Tobago because it is my country. I support Trinidad and Tobago because for a country of 1.2 million people we have churned out quite a number of talented athletes, including footballers. I support Trinidad and Tobago because my Dad (god bless his soul) has related to me countless times what it was like to see a whole stadium cry because we couldn't hold a us side that isn't worth half of what its worth today to a draw at home, and that after having won the deciding match against haiti inhaiti in 1973 4-1 only to see a corrupt referee wave off our 4 goals and to see haiti embarass concacaf in the 1974 WC.

Of course its pretty lame comparing a country of 60 million habitants and a footballing tradition going back to at least the 1930's with two islands of 1.1 million people that didn't exist before 1962, but i won't point that out to you...

If we kept to the topic at hand instead of going the easy route of the nostalgia of 1998, (like the French have a tendency to do so often) this thread may just not degenerate...The 98-00 bleu generation was excellent. This is 2006.

[sl7vk]

Well apparently i've touched a sensitive spot... ;) It was all in good fun sir.

I haven't 'forgotten' how France qualified for the euro; i've never followed the qualification process for a continental tournament before euro 2004. I'm not using the current qualification cycle to infer anything on france's chances for 2006, i was just trying to get some serious feedback on certain things that would bother me if it was MY national team. I follow them that closely because i don't have cable and its the only national team of which i am assured to see the matches live.

I support Trinidad and Tobago because it is my country. I support Trinidad and Tobago because for a country of 1.2 million people we have churned out quite a number of talented athletes, including footballers. I support Trinidad and Tobago because my Dad (god bless his soul) has related to me countless times what it was like to see a whole stadium cry because we couldn't hold a us side that isn't worth half of what its worth today to a draw at home, and that after having won the deciding match against haiti inhaiti in 1973 4-1 only to see a corrupt referee wave off our 4 goals and to see haiti embarass concacaf in the 1974 WC.

Of course its pretty lame comparing a country of 60 million habitants and a footballing tradition going back to at least the 1930's with two islands of 1.1 million people that didn't exist before 1962, but i won't point that out to you...

If we kept to the topic at hand instead of going the easy route of the nostalgia of 1998, (like the French have a tendency to do so often) this thread may just not degenerate...The 98-00 bleu generation was excellent. This is 2006.

A couple of things....
T&T is great. I was pleasantly surprised to see them edge out Guatamala with some great strikes against Mexico. Good luck to them against Bahrain, I hope to see them at the World Cup.
I won't ask you why you have the other countries on your list.
As for France. I don't think anybody here is unrealistic about there chances in Germany. But let us for at least a couple of weeks bask in the glory of having qualified, after a god aweful nail biting campaign, we dererve at least that.
As for Germany 06, are we favorites, no. Can we win, maybe but it would be a long shot..... but that is what is great about football. Anything can happen. Nobody would have bet money on Germany making the final in 02, but they did! Nobody would have bet on Greece even making it past the group stages at the Euro, but they won the whole damn thing!
Anything is possible with this game. And with Thuram, Maka, Henry, Zidane, and Coupet (hopefully), they've got a chance. That's all any country can hope for, a chance.

[fishbiproduct]

i was just trying to get some serious feedback on certain things that would bother me if it was ONE of my national teams

Fixed your post.

[midknight]

To answer the hidden questions, I am first and foremost a Trinidad and tobago fan. That said, since i live in europe, i don't get to see them play all that often. :mad:

I've been a Brazil fan since 1994 (my first world cup) and i consider that they've been consistently the most attractive football team for the last 12 years or so. (Believe it or not, I actually had France as second on that list between 1999-2003)

I saw the Czechs play for the second time in euro 2004. As in euro 96, the quality of their game was great, but in 2004, they turned on the style. ITs the closest thing i've seen to a Brazilian team in Europe during that Euro. I admit that without Nedved, they're not the same, but i still hold them in my hearts for that unfortunate loss to Greece. I'm still convinced they were the best team in that tournament.

Finally, Ireland has my fighters prize. Not overly talented, but they usually give it all they got. I've liked them ever since Mick Mccarthy told Roy keane where to get off in 2002 and they still put up a good showing. Against France, they were excellent in both games, if a bit lacking up front.

[fishbiproduct]

I'm a glory hunter

Fixed your post.

[midknight]

Fixed your post.

Funny...

Easier to make me say things i never said than to counter what i say by logical discussion.

Explain to me in what I'm glory hunting?
I'm talking about the French NT because i see all their matches, which is more than i can say of most other national teams. If trying to engage inintelligent discussion is glory hunting i can understand why the only recourse the french have to get any kind of glory is to keep harping back to the pre 2002 period :rolleyes:

[sl7vk]

Funny...

Easier to make me say things i never said than to counter what i say by logical discussion.

Explain to me in what I'm glory hunting?
I'm talking about the French NT because i see all their matches, which is more than i can say of most other national teams. If trying to engage inintelligent discussion is glory hunting i can understand why the only recourse the french have to get any kind of glory is to keep harping back to the pre 2002 period :rolleyes:

So you like the teams that are on top form... That must be tough. When you only have one team the highs are higher, and the lows are lower. So the pre 2002 highs are what drive us today. And by the way, 6-8 years is nothing in football terms. Argentina's world cup was yesterday in football years.......

[fishbiproduct]

If trying to engage inintelligent discussion

Bad start.


is glory hunting i can understand why the only recourse the french have to get any kind of glory is to keep harping back to the pre 2002 period

Yes, "pre 2002" period...and much earlier.
How about pre-1982? Pre-1972?
Anything to "harp about" then?
I get the feeling I'm much older than you are... :(
But guess what, I've felt the very-high, I've felt
the very-low, and that won't change where I'm
from and the only national team I care about.

Good times or bad times, I'll support my team and
I don't think you can understand that.

In any case, I think you're just trolling and
I'm done with you.
Buh-bye!

[midknight]

So you like the teams that are on top form... That must be tough. When you only have one team the highs are higher, and the lows are lower.

I support teams when i like their style of play. It has nothing to do with form. When Brazil was strugling to qualify for 2002, I still supported them. I still support the Czechs (without Nedved, and while the Dutch were beating up on them) and I've been supporting the Irish since I first saw them play in 1994.

As for Trinidad, I can tell you that I've seen Dwight Yorke play before he started playing for Manchester and witnessed the disappointing qualification campaigns in 1994 and 1998, Ufortunately in 2002, i was in France and only got to see the French friendlies before the debacle.

[midknight]

I'm 21. Of course you're older than i am.

I'm not trolling. To be quite honest i don't know the meaning of the word. In case you didn't notice, I only started trolling when someone started singing the 3-0 song.

If you'd been paying attention, you'd have also noticed that my post had nothing to do with the general level of the french team, but this particular national selection. If you don't want to discuss certain things that may not make you very comfortable, just stay out of the topic (that's one of the reasons i didn't post it in an already existent topic)

I've been very civil up to this point, but when the only comeback that one can find is to accuse me of glory hunting and point out that i come from a country which, if it qualifies, will become the smallest ever to make a world cup, it only goes to show how susceptible you guys are.

If Trinidad beats Bahrain, i am going to drink it up as much as any of the other 1.2 million trinis, but i'm not going to overlook the fact that our main playmaker is 37 and that we finished the hex with a negative goal difference...Does that make me a troll? :confused:

[Nanbawan]

*sound of a lone fly*

[jambon-beurre]

I'm not trolling. To be quite honest i don't know the meaning of the word. In case you didn't notice, I only started trolling when someone started singing the 3-0 song.


You were on the verge of trolling.

Well if this post is anything to judge from, you guys have learnt a lot about humility since Kore/Japan.

trolling : "deliberately provoking arguments on newsgroups or bulletin boards, with no other intent than to gain attention for the sake of attention"

[midknight]

*sound of a lone fly*

yeah it was that quiet in paris after the first round in korea/japan too.

Sorry to have disturbed your peaceful joyful partisan existence. My bad.

Bonne Chance en Allemagne.

[midknight]

I apologise. I didn't think that piece of tongue in cheek humour would have been taken so seriously. I sometimes forget that posting on the internet erases the effect that a vocal tone can give in a sentence...

Listen seriously, to all of you. It wasn't my intention to troll. I'm willing to stop talking about 2002 if you stop talking about 98-02. In any case, the topic will probably die a natural death soon enough

[Nanbawan]

yeah it was that quiet in paris after the first round in korea/japan too.



Biggest moment of your whole life apparently.

I'm not a great fan of lame post wars anyway, so be cool and everyone will be. :cool: