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Pizarro14
24 Jun 2005, 11:47 AM
Cristal is the 3rd best team in history are the present Rival matchup. but the history one will always be U-ALIANZA



U-Cristal
Alianza-Cristal are also great rivalry games

anlas1
24 Jun 2005, 11:48 AM
I know. It is a thing of the past really.

RIGHT!!! This working-class vs. wealthy rilvary doesn't hold true as much since downwards class mobility has changed the dichotomy of this rivalry. And by this I mean WE ALL GOT POOR. Please, how many "U" fans are born into wealth nowadays?

chaski
24 Jun 2005, 12:17 PM
La rivalidad está servida, negros contra blancosY los cholos? ;)

Peruco83
24 Jun 2005, 12:32 PM
Y los cholos? ;)
Thats what the "Classico del Sur" is for. Pretty much any team Cienciano plays thats around there, like Melgar.

Dominican Lou
24 Jun 2005, 01:59 PM
Y los cholos? ;)
Exactly.

Peru is 80% cholo yet the clasico is blancos vs. negros :rolleyes:

Dominican Lou
24 Jun 2005, 02:05 PM
Please educate me...

Is it true Universitario tends to draw fans from the middle and upper class while Alianza is traditionally the working-class team? Equipo del pueblo.
It used to be that way in the 1930s and 40s but not anymore. No team can be the most popular without having the support of the lower classes.

Universitario became the most popular team in Peru by gaining the support of the working-class migrants that came from the countryside into Lima during the 40s and 50s.

Even now, if you go to the real rough barrios in Lima you'll see more U than Alianza fans.

Peruco83
24 Jun 2005, 02:12 PM
I was wondering how much it would be to buy a team in Peru, I know Vergara tried to buy the Gallinas but did they say for how much??

vipnerd
24 Jun 2005, 03:50 PM
I was wondering how much it would be to buy a team in Peru, I know Vergara tried to buy the Gallinas but did they say for how much??


If you might be talking about La U ... could it be US$ 25 million?



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condor11
25 Jun 2005, 12:55 AM
Cristal is the 3rd best team in history are the present Rival matchup. but the history one will always be U-ALIANZA



U-Cristal
Alianza-Cristal are also great rivalry games

i think after the alianza - u matchup

the biggest game around is the U vs cristal matchup then comes alianza cristal

and then
cienciano-melgar
boys- and the big 3

etc etc

callao had a big one when atletico chalaco was still around

and i think muni had a rivalry with ciclista lima

vipnerd
25 Jun 2005, 03:56 AM
i think after the alianza - u matchup

the biggest game around is the U vs cristal matchup then comes alianza cristal

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and i think muni had a rivalry with ciclista lima

Yep you are right, for the past 20 years it has to be U-Cristal the 2nd biggest game/rivalry ... you know why right? Hint: Look at your avatar ... Somos Cremas
Cristal's job was to buy everything La U had ... and then from there it sparkled a rivalry at games and for titles.

Before it had to be el "clasico moderno" U-Muni. Even now they call the U-Cristal the "clasico moderno".



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KesOne
25 Jun 2005, 01:37 PM
Arriba Alianza ************!!!!!!!!!!! :D

RedSkinheadUltra
25 Jun 2005, 03:39 PM
Game on!

I can tell this is gonna be fun...

:eek: :D

Peruco83
29 Jun 2005, 01:50 PM
PVTA MARE!!!! Cienciano 2 Alianza 0 first half

If we loose this one then we don't deserve the Apertura, we should be able to beat the ones on top as well as the ones in the bottom, I wouldnt feel right if my team wont the title the half-assed way.

PERU CAMPEON !!
29 Jun 2005, 02:15 PM
[QUOTE=Peruco83]PVTA MARE!!!! Cienciano 2 Alianza 0 first half

If u can't watch it at home on goltv, on your computer go to http://tv4all.com/portal.htm?http://tv4all.com/television/165.htm and click on 100k on cmd. :D

Peruco83
29 Jun 2005, 02:26 PM
I know I've been watching here at work, so dissapointed....

KesOne
29 Jun 2005, 02:35 PM
Well its 2-1 now. Hopefully Alianza can tie or win.

peruytu
29 Jun 2005, 03:21 PM
3-1 Cienciano wins.

Although I was hoping for a tie, I cannot be mad at the outcome, as its always a pleasure seeing kaka lose. :)

KesOne
29 Jun 2005, 03:24 PM
Cant wait to see la crema get knocked out the top by Cienciano, and dont get any funny ideas :D

Oops sorry wasnt aware that already happened HAHAHA

Peruco83
29 Jun 2005, 03:51 PM
Vamos Ancash!

PERU CAMPEON !!
29 Jun 2005, 04:19 PM
3-1 Cienciano wins.

Although I was hoping for a tie, I cannot be mad at the outcome, as its always a pleasure seeing kaka lose. :)
Los de alianza no son intimos son ULTIMOS :D