Best Striker in the World now

[Tony Dellbird]

Yes, Milan drew and will move on.

Other results this season which speak on the new "bad" serie a.

Roma in 17th place in meltdown league -- 3
Chelsea first in Premiership --- 1

Udinese 2
Spurs 0 (with 80 million more in players fees/salaries)

Roma are a shocking team, Chelsea aren't exactly on form anyhow losing twice at home in 4 years this year. As for Spurs, need I say more?

[Duck Manson]

That's totally the way it is. Aston Villa are a better team than Portsmouth you realise? Really? So you're saying a bad team can actually draw against a better one? Wow. Well explain then why you brought up the Milan result.

[Carlo Mazzone]

7-1? That was 2 years ago lol. I remember it because Milan demolished United 3-0 a few weeks later, the same Milan that Roma had destroyed 3-1. Then Milan beat Liverpool in Athens too.

I'm talking in the last few months. But we can go back in history.

Here's one: Fiorentina beat Everton in Goodison last season.

[Tony Dellbird]

Really? So you're saying a bad team can actually draw against a better one? Wow. Well explain then why you brought up the Milan result.

What I'm saying is the mighty mighty Milan versus a team with no real European history of Portsmouth?

[Tony Dellbird]

7-1? That was 2 years ago lol. I remember it because Milan demolished United 3-0 a few weeks later, the same Milan that Roma had destroyed 3-1. Then Milan beat Liverpool in Athens too.

I'm talking in the last few months. But we can go back in history.

Here's one: Fiorentina beat Everton in Goodison last season.

We beat Fiorentina 2-0 at Goodison?

[Duck Manson]

What I'm saying is the mighty mighty Milan versus a team with no real European history of Portsmouth?I don't see a point here, unless it is that teams like Arsenal and Chelsea and Liverpool should always beat teams like Hull and Burnley and Stoke.

[Tony Dellbird]

I don't see a point here, unless it is that teams like Arsenal and Chelsea and Liverpool should always beat teams like Hull and Burnley and Stoke.

The point is that the Serie A is not as strong as it once was, which is true. If you look how times have changed over the years.

[Carlo Mazzone]

It's not considered beating an opponent when the other team is hugging and celebrating at end of penalty shootout.

The point is this about strikers: u say Zlatan doesn't play big for country or club what kind of credbility is this? Unless you making a joke. Did I imagine those matches v Spain this summer, my country Italia at 04? I don't know if English don't consider the european championship big tournaments because they don't qualify for them, but trust me, the rest of the footballing world thinks this is a big event lol.

[Tony Dellbird]

It's not considered beating an opponent when the other team is hugging and celebrating at end of penalty shootout.

The point is this about strikers: u say Zlatan doesn't play big for country or club what kind of credbility is this? Unless you making a joke. Did I imagine those matches v Spain this summer, my country Italia at 04? I don't know if English don't consider the european championship big tournaments because they don't qualify for them, but trust me, the rest of the footballing world thinks this is a big event lol.

Same with most Italians, you're as bad as the English press. Between the threads, if Chiellini is the best defender, Pirlo the best midfielder and Zlatan the best striker, why aren't Italian club teams doing better at the European level? Your eyes are as foggy as the English press and you vastly overestimate your talent.

[Tony Dellbird]

Not so badly in the case of Pirlo as he is quite obiviously a very talented midfielder, but the best in the world? It's questionable.

[Teso Dos Bichos]

Many names are all hype for me. I don't rate Berbatov in the slightest. Big fee, big forehead, big cigarette habit. His goal scoring record in big games and so far for United hasn't done anything to change my opinion.

1 Ibra
2 Villa
3 Benzema
4 Eto'o
5 Torres

my top 5

As for national sides, Benzema is Zidane's heir #10 for France and Berbatov is hopeless for Bulgaria and wants dropping.

There is no-one in world, manager or director, who thinks Berbatov is a better footballer than Benzema at the moment.

The most goals Ibrahimovic has scored in a season has been 22. Berbatov has beaten that figure for the last four seasons running. His international record, the best in UEFA I believe, blows all of your top five away. He even has more goals than some of them combined. In the Premiership he has scored against Man Utd, Arsenal and regularly against Chelsea. I'd say he has the big games covered. He is a completely different type of player than Benzema. He does things Benzema cannot do and vice-versa.

[Teso Dos Bichos]

Not so badly in the case of Pirlo as he is quite obiviously a very talented midfielder, but the best in the world? It's questionable.

He has not even been the best at AC Milan for several seasons.

[Carlo Mazzone]

I don't know how this is possible to do better. Italian clubs have had 25 teams in the European club final, most of any country. 11 winners, also most of any country. An italian club just won the european cup 2 years ago beating the two most succesful clubs in english history in a matter of weeks on the way, and then they went and won the world club championship last season along with supercup. How can you do better than being #1 in the records? This season u mean? In europe Italian clubs are 2-1-1 this season v english. Which is better than 1-1-2 for a record in all mathmatic levels.

English press overrate their talent. U are correct. I don't know why you say Italian press is the same. They call it how it is: Italia is the most succesful european country, 4 stars and we r world cup holders. Senior and junior level. From 1990 to 2004, they won 5 of the 7 U21 tournaments … that is domination. so it’s not a coincidence that the azzurri made the final in 70, 82, 94, and 2006. And the final of Euro 2000. This is a nation that wins and competes to win. The Italian press call it accurately I think. We feel we will win everything we enter, no-one can fault this.

U can't say Lampard and Gerrard best midfielders in world, Terry and Ferdinand best defenders in world, Rooney best forward in world ... then not only fail to win but fail show up at european championships!

[KumarsS]

Dude I'm sorry I disagree with most of what you said but most of all I'm astounded that you're claiming it's unreasonable and biased to Terry and Ferdinand the best in the world at their position. If you really think Vidic is better than either of them, get back to me when you've watched some EPL.

[Carlo Mazzone]

No more unreasonable than someone saying Zlatan doesn't show in big matches. In football there is no bigger game than one with your country flag on kit. Zlatan got Sweden to euros in huge qualifying matches leading there, then scored a goal v the eventual champions when he got there. Terry captained his country and couldn't get there or qualify past russia or croatia lol. Not exactly trying to qualify your country with Italy or France in your group is it?

I watched Terry in person a few weeks ago at olimpico. Vucinic is not Baggio and he tortured him. Would you rather I watch Terry in person in european champions league or a game in england with chelsea v sunderland?

[KumarsS]

Zlatan and Sweden would have missed out on the Euros too, with McClaren at the helm.

[revelationx]

I don't know how this is possible to do better. Italian clubs have had 25 teams in the European club final, most of any country. 11 winners, also most of any country.

Joint most as England and Spain have also won it 11 times.

Not quite sure what this has to do with best striker in the world though. If you want to claim that Ibra is the best striker in the world, then fair enough. However mentioning Inter winning the CL in the 60's as evidence to back this up is a bit silly really.

[Carlo Mazzone]

It's nothing to do with best striker in the world. It was just a response to someone saying Italian clubs should be doing better in europe. I'm guessing you didn't see that. Just scroll down. I didn't initiate such things because it's an irrelevant thing in this thread. As you say, it would be silly on it's own.

Is there a big difference betweeen 1 and 3? 1 and 2? 3 and 4? I don't know. But I rate Zlatan over the rest "now" at this moment.

[man_in_the_middle]

[quote=Carlo Mazzone;16394447]No more unreasonable than someone saying Zlatan doesn't show in big matches. In football there is no bigger game than one with your country flag on kit. Zlatan got Sweden to euros in huge qualifying matches leading there, then scored a goal v the eventual champions when he got there. Terry captained his country and couldn't get there or qualify past russia or croatia lol. Not exactly trying to qualify your country with Italy or France in your group is it?quote]

Your way off about Zlatan. He didn't score in a single goal in Euro qualifying. He did end his international goal drought in the actual tournemant. But going over 2 years without scoring a goal for Sweeden is not exactly playing big for the flag. I like Zlatan, he is a top level striker, but get the facts right.

Now, Benzema heir to Zidane? I don't think so. They may wear the same number but they play a different game. Benzema is a a great scorer, plays with flair, and has a classic strikers swagger. But he isn't the orchastrator of Lyon, much less France. Another fabulous player, with a great future ahead of him, but let's be real.

I don't know what this England v Italy is doing on this thread. IMO Italy has had a stronger history than England, certainly at the international level. But at Euros Russia and Croatia proved to be of a higher quality than Holland, France, or Romania. Russia beat the same Holland team that destroyed the Italians. And England had to deal with the the group A winning Croatian team. And they had to deal with a healthy Eduardo. So let's be fair.

Fianlly Seria A had been as strong if not stronger than the EPL. But with a recent influx of cash and foriegn talent the EPL has become stronger. I againt expect to see 3-4 teams in the final 8 of the champions league.

[Teso Dos Bichos]

U can't say Lampard and Gerrard best midfielders in world, Terry and Ferdinand best defenders in world, Rooney best forward in world ... then not only fail to win but fail show up at european championships!

In the case of Ferdinand the claim is correct.

Dude I'm sorry I disagree with most of what you said but most of all I'm astounded that you're claiming it's unreasonable and biased to Terry and Ferdinand the best in the world at their position. If you really think Vidic is better than either of them, get back to me when you've watched some EPL.

Those that consider Vidic to be better than Ferdinand are overrating him but then, by default, they also consider him to be better than Terry. You will find a lot of people who agree with the latter, myself included.

No more unreasonable than someone saying Zlatan doesn't show in big matches. In football there is no bigger game than one with your country flag on kit. Zlatan got Sweden to euros in huge qualifying matches leading there, then scored a goal v the eventual champions when he got there.

The same Zlatan that went two years without scoring for Sweden and did not manage to score in any of the qualifying matches?