Best Striker in the World now

[Hendrixforpope]

Riquelme doesn't belong in this thread.

[LaredoKid]

If Cabanas is not one of the top strikers in the world, I really fail to understand what it takes to be the best.;)

[Dr. Know]

Laughable coming from someone as clueless as yourself. Peru mentioned riquelme may not even be the best midfielder right now and you reply with 'he has the most goals in wcq'. Your ridiculous fanboyism has derailed this thread into a discussion about your man-crush when the thread topic is about the best Striker

You thought Cabañas was a midfielder. You don't have a clue about South American club football. Enough said.

It means what it's supposed to mean: the South American futbol press considered Cabañas to be a better player than Riquelme throughout 2007. This is what I stated because that's the consensus. Now whether you agree with it or not, it's your problem.

He did just as good if not better than Riquelme, let's take a look:

-Top-scorer in the Copa Libertadores 2007, with Club América
-Paraguayan Footballer of the Year in 2007
-Lead America to second place in Copa Sudamericana
-South American Footballer of the Year in 2007
-Top-scorer in the Copa Libertadores 2008, with Club América
-Led Club America to semifinals in Copa Libertadores 2008
-Led Paraguay to lead the South American qualifiers

This is hilarious. "He lead Paraguay to lead South American qualifiers?" LOL. Please.

Riquelme led Boca to a Libertadores win, lead Boca to a second place finish in the league, lead Argentina to second place finish in the Copa America having them play the best football of the tournament as well as being their top scorer and assister, was nominated for World Player of the Year, currently leads WCQ's in goalscoring, and helped Boca reach the semi's again this year.

Riquelme's performances for country have been so superior to that of Cabañas that it's not even worth comparing.

He's been topscorer two years in a row in Copa Libertadores which, to me, takes more skill than to become the top goal scorer in the South American qualifiers. Now if your main argument is that Riquelme won a Libertadores and Cabañas didn't then we enter a whole new argument.

Well he's a striker that's kind of his job :rolleyes:. My comment about the WCQ's was to point out the fact that Riquelme as a MIDFIELDER leads in scoring ahead of Cabañas. Riquelme as a MIDFIELDER also finished second in scoring in the CA just one behind Robinho another striker also ahead of Cabañas. It's clearly impressive wether you like it or not.

And Riquelme didn't just win a Libertadores. He dominated that tournament like it hadn't been dominated in a long time.

Cabañas has sustained his level while Riquelme had a more than disappointing Libertadores...

This coming from the guy claiming that Boca played better without Riquelme something that came to bite him in the ass the game right after LOL.

Riquelme was plagued by injuries and you know it. When he did play he was quite good despite obviously not being match fit.

Cabañas is a better striker and overall a better player than Riquelme at this point in time. Period.

He's clearly a better striker cause Riquelme isn't one but he isn't a better player. Go read my Nihat-Messi post.

2) Argue the point about Cabañas being categorized about "South American footballer of the Year" when I'm only stating what the SOUTH AMERICAN SPECIALIZED PRESS decided. You can argue with them... I already stated the points that they might've considered to put him above Riquelme.

You used some meaningless press award as an indication that Cabañas is better than Riquelme. Who cares? :rolleyes:

If you want to talk about your love for Riquelme, open another thread. Here we are talking about STRIKERS, mm'ok? :D

Sure I'll stop right now. I've said what needed to be said.

Sorry for the threadjack even though it's been continued by a number of people.

[phil80]

You thought Cabañas was a midfielder. You don't have a clue about South American club football. Enough said.
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Instead of talking out of your a$$, find where i stated cabanas was a midfielder, ridiculous. And you disregarded cabanas award for best S.A. but use riquelme's nomination for world player??

Utterly clueless, and way to hijack a thread, it has become expected from you.

[Perú FC]

And if you noticed the post I answered it was in response to a person who claimed that Cabañas was the best player in the Americas.
If he would have said Cabañas has had the best 08 than anyone in the Americas I would have probably agreed.
That's exactly the argument I read and the answer not change, I believe really you also understood it's about the present of the players and you're trying to fix it now, but if not, was also a mistake from you because the common sense indicates we're discussing about present and not comparing historic profiles.

Henry has clearly underperformed for Barca and prior to that he was injured at Arsenal. The margin between Torres and Henry is clearly larger than the margin between Riquelme and Cabañas especially when you consider that less than a year ago Riquelme was kiling in the Copa America(killing is probably an understatement since it's been a while since a player dominated that tournament like Riquelme did), followed by great performances in the WCQ's, directly followed by great performances again for Boca.

Cabañas is a great player but he's not better than Riquelme.
I think this paragraph has some mistakes, but they're about subjective opinions. I really think the difference between the examples Torres x Henry and Riquelme x Cabañas is far to have a clearly margin, and I think that point of view it's because, in spite Riquelme had a very good last semester the last year, you're underrating him. Only about the Copa America, Robinho was better than him, and Riquelme was one of the figures.

But, I feel really the mistake it's only take the performance of Riquelme, flattering it and thinking had a great difference in that semester of 2007 about the performance of Cabañas, when wasn't it. The Paraguayan was also a figure at that time and this semester was clearly superior, that's enough reason to consider him better option than Riquelme if anyone ask who's the best in South American leagues?, and only could be different if anyone add "the last one or two years".

[Kyles9]

Well now that Dr. Know's tyrant about how Juan Roman Riquelme is the greatest human being alive and how Cabanas should be flattered to be talked about in the same sentence as Riquelme let's get back to the original topic of the thread, shall we?

[phil80]

Well now that Dr. Know's tyrant about how Juan Roman Riquelme is the greatest human being alive and how Cabanas should be flattered to be talked about in the same sentence as Riquelme let's get back to the original topic of the thread, shall we?
Yes exactly.

Ibrahimovic, Torres, Villa, RVN, luca toni (even though had an awful tournament)

[Neapolitan Mastiff]

Toni,Torres and Adebayor :)

[KumarsS]

Torres, Klose, Ibrahimovic.

[kalpurush]

Luca Tony And Mario Gomez :rolleyes:

[Kyles9]

Luca Tony And Mario Gomez :rolleyes:

I hope you said Mario Gomez due to his club form with Stuttgart in the past two season. He was a joke to say the least in Euro.

[KumarsS]

I hope you said Mario Gomez due to his club form with Stuttgart in the past two season. He was a joke to say the least in Euro.

I think it's a safe bet that both of his picks were due entirely to club form.

[shortlist10]

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[Kyles9]

I think it's a safe bet that both of his picks were due entirely to club form.

Haha yeah, Toni had a disappointing Euro as well, but imo I think that Gomez was the biggest let down of the tournament.

[dada011597]

If Italy would have had "Super Pippo" Inzaghi, they would have won Euro 2008, I do not care how old he is. He knows how to find the back of the net and is the all-time leading scorer in the Champions League. Another striker that seems to score whenever he plays is Argentinian Julio Cruz of Inter Milan. He finally earned a starting role and put Crespo out of work this year. Ibra is deadly and has more talent than anyone in Italy today, but he is also inconsistent and still needs to prove that he can be named among the best.

[jcvf90]

obviously u dont follow nt's dada, julio cruz sucks for the NT he is a fruit if the system at inter not a great striker IMO. he scored 13 goals the whole season with way less time than other striker David Suazo who didnt play as much but scored 8 goals, he was only playing at the end of games and u kno it.

[Hendrixforpope]

If Italy would have had "Super Pippo" Inzaghi, they would have won Euro 2008

No one will ever know.

[dada011597]

obviously u dont follow nt's dada, julio cruz sucks for the NT he is a fruit if the system at inter not a great striker IMO. he scored 13 goals the whole season with way less time than other striker David Suazo who didnt play as much but scored 8 goals, he was only playing at the end of games and u kno it.

Suazo did not play as much because he was a total bust at Inter. He is a one-dimentional player and does not combine with anyone, prefering to dribble until he eventually loses the ball. He scored goals with Cagliari, but stunk at Inter and did not earn any additional playing time. I cannot see him having much of a role in 2008/2009. Cruz has been Mr. Clutch/Mr. Reliable for Inter for several years. He does not dazzle people like some of the higher profile Argentinian players, but he is part of any international roster that I would assemble because he scored the goals for Inter when they were needed most. The same way Crespo used to and Vieri used to.

[jcvf90]

a striker id defined by goals, look at the amount of time Cruz played and Suazo played and tell me who had the better goals per minute average, did u see the shots he missed with argie NT it was funnt at one point.

[dada011597]

a striker id defined by goals, look at the amount of time Cruz played and Suazo played and tell me who had the better goals per minute average, did u see the shots he missed with argie NT it was funnt at one point.

Yes, I saw. I was funny. But it was not as funny as Luca Toni's performance for Italy! He missed more chances than everyone else in the tournament combined! Is he a terrible striker or did he haev a terrible tournament? Bayern Munich did not kick him off their tema and Inter will have Cruz back in the fall, as well. One tournament does not always define a player. Some players, like Inzaghi, rise to the occassion of a Champions League, for example. Others, like Ronaldo of Brazil, fall flat on their face during a World Cup. But that one World Cup did not define his career.