Best Striker in the World now

[Massimo_Oddo]

Henry has more league goals, more CL goals, and more assists than Shevchenko this season.

Shevchenko has had less starts.

Fact is, on current form, neither are the best strikers in the world anymore.

[Dr. Know]

Shevchenko has had less starts.

Fact is, on current form, neither are the best strikers in the world anymore.

True but Henry has still performed better than Shevchenko this season.

[macaluca]

Fact is, on current form, neither are the best strikers in the world anymore.

Neither are the best strikers in their teams, let alone the world, anymore.

[rochester rhinos]

Neither are the best strikers in their teams, let alone the world, anymore.:rolleyes:http://es.soccerway.com/photo.php?type=original&id=11752417280&x=250

[Massimo_Oddo]

:rolleyes:http://es.soccerway.com/photo.php?type=original&id=11752417280&x=250

am i missing something?

[macaluca]

am i missing something?

I guess Rochester is a bit pissed because Raul scored again tonight.
But no you are not missing anything...unless you give a f uck about whiney little attention whores, in which case feel free to have a chat with him.;)

[colagrosso3]

Amauri hands down

[lems87]

Will be interesting to see if Amauri succeeds anywhere else. Sheva has had no starts because he is useless in England, especially compared to Dogma so if we're looking for the best striker hes def behind the Doggy! Henry a striker who Barca were playing in the wrong position but I think he's still been playing soundly. Scored a nice goal that reminded me of the Arsenal times against Celtic the other day. I personally think that on current form you can't beat Cristiano Ronaldo, he's not a striker but plays like one half the time!

[rochester rhinos]

am i missing something?Yeah macaluca thinks Raul should be included in this discussion

[Massimo_Oddo]

My reason for dismissing Sheva is that he has been completely useless since transfering and hasn't put in the effort desired, Henry, while he hasn't become a star in Spain in one season has at least made progress and scored goals and kept himself in the side, altho yes he's not been the best but nowhere near as bad as Sheva.

thats a fair assesment, though Sheva has been dogged by injuries this season too. Their goals to game ratio is pretty similar.

I wouldn't put either of them in this discussion though.

[Hendrixforpope]

Yeah macaluca thinks Raul should be included in this discussion

Raul is a world class striker, plain and simple. I think Raul has just as much right being discussed here as anyone else.

[Teso Dos Bichos]

As I said previously...

Raul has not hit double figures in the league in the last three full seasons. His highest goal total in all competitions during that time is a mere 13 goals. Now macaluca can use whatever excuse he wants but that is not the form of the best striker in the world. Granted he is doing better this season but it is simply not a big enough time period to justify his inclusion.

[lems87]

How is he doing better this season? Being a striker isnt always about goals its also about setting up and bringing other people into the game especially a player like Sheva when Chelsea play 4-3-3 and he's just been useless he's had no touch or anything altho he could probably do with game experience but if he was the 'best' he'd be able to get his form back after 2 or 3 games which he consistantly hasn't done. He's never exactly struck fear into the hearts of other premiership teams!

[revelationx]

How is he doing better this season? Being a striker isnt always about goals its also about setting up and bringing other people into the game especially a player like Sheva when Chelsea play 4-3-3 and he's just been useless he's had no touch or anything altho he could probably do with game experience but if he was the 'best' he'd be able to get his form back after 2 or 3 games which he consistantly hasn't done. He's never exactly struck fear into the hearts of other premiership teams!

To be fair to Sheva, he was feared by Prem sides when we was signed by Chelsea. He was the bookies favourite to be top scorer in the Prem. When he scored against Liverpool in the Charity Shield in August 2006, everyone assumed he would then go on and score plenty. Of course it has not quite worked out like that. His drop off in form since moving to Chelsea has been dramatic and unexpected. Even now Sheva seems to be the forgotten man at Chelsea and I assume will be shipped out in the summer.

[macaluca]

As I said previously...

Raul has not hit double figures in the league in the last three full seasons. His highest goal total in all competitions during that time is a mere 13 goals. Now macaluca can use whatever excuse he wants but that is not the form of the best striker in the world. Granted he is doing better this season but it is simply not a big enough time period to justify his inclusion.

3 poor seasons out of the last 4 taken in isolation is not...but 3 poor seasons (and let's add that for much of those 3 he was either not playing as a striker or injured) out of 14 hugely successful ones, should not cloud the picture.

However we have been round in circles with this argument once already and I see no point in doing so again...despite the pathetic attempts of the Brian McBride fan club.

[Teso Dos Bichos]

My point is we are supposed to be discussing the best current strikers in the world. Judging purely on the current season is too short a period of time (for a number of obvious reasons) which means we will obviously need to consider previous seasons. That rules Raul out.

[macaluca]

My point is we are supposed to be discussing the best current strikers in the world. Judging purely on the current season is too short a period of time (for a number of obvious reasons) which means we will obviously need to consider previous seasons. That rules Raul out.

Well actually, if we are talking the best current strikers then the current season would seem to be the best way of discussing it...though as I just said, i don't really want to dance, my feet are hurting.

[Teso Dos Bichos]

7 months (give or take) is not a long enough time period to judge any player. That leaves any list open to one season wonders and the like. We need to include at least last season as well. Either way Raul does not merit inclusion. He simply has not done enough.

[macaluca]

7 months (give or take) is not a long enough time period to judge any player. That leaves any list open to one season wonders and the like. We need to include at least last season as well. Either way Raul does not merit inclusion. He simply has not done enough.

He played very few games as an out and out striker last season. He was pushed further up during the title run in and chipped in with goals (4 or 5 in the last dozen or so games).
Over that period you suggest, take the games he has played as a striker and he very much merits inclusion in the discussion.

[Teso Dos Bichos]

You cannot cherry pick games to favour your player. He did not do enough. End of dance.