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Gorton Blue
14 Dec 2007, 07:31 AM
Totti Eto'o Ruud Adebayor Zlatan Torres

int86
14 Dec 2007, 10:41 AM
yeah i hear ya... ibrahimovic is great.. http://www.ifutbal.com/view_video.php?viewkey=0ecb729a966504af0a63 i just love watchin his videos... thats my favorite video of him

KingAL30
14 Dec 2007, 11:36 AM
Zlatan, Drogba, Ade

KumarsS
14 Dec 2007, 12:12 PM
Ruud has consistently done it at the very highest level. Klose, despite his obvious qualities, has not. Plus let's not forget that Klose had a poor last season.

10 goals in two consecutive World Cups isn't doing it consistently at the very highest level?

And Klose had a decent last season. He scored 15 goals for Bremen, which is in itself unacceptable, but he created almost as much as he scored.

DaGoZi
14 Dec 2007, 01:31 PM
Kaka is the best, Drogba is second

ForeverRed
14 Dec 2007, 05:38 PM
Ruud has consistently done it at the very highest level. Klose, despite his obvious qualities, has not. Plus let's not forget that Klose had a poor last season.

Of course but Klose also had a phenomenal WC. He is nowhere near as prolific as Ruud has been in the CL but he has done great on the international stage, some consider the WC the highest stage.

But like I said, I don't think there is ONE player who can be considered the best. I'm just throwing Miro's name out there because he never gets the credit he deserves. There are a lot of football fans who really have no clue about what is actually going on so they go solely on perception and coverage/hype etc.

In other words, I'm a Klose lobby :D

Young Merengue
14 Dec 2007, 07:20 PM
Ruud Van Nistelrooy. He's The definintion of a striker. Even though others like Robinho are good too, he does his job good. He's good in the air and can finish from basically anywhere, which is what you need in a striker. Leave the play making to the midfielders.

SectionX
14 Dec 2007, 09:12 PM
zlatan, he really is the greatest. No one can handle the ball like him.

Teso Dos Bichos
14 Dec 2007, 11:03 PM
10 goals in two consecutive World Cups isn't doing it consistently at the very highest level?

I was referring to club level. The Dutch as useless at international level for a number of reasons. Arjen 'Hero Run' Robben being but one.

phil80
15 Dec 2007, 12:12 AM
I was referring to club level. The Dutch as useless at international level for a number of reasons. Arjen 'Hero Run' Robben being but one.
if you are implying Robben was useless the last world cup then you must have slept through Netherland's group stage matches. He was not only the most impressive dutch player those first two games, but arguably had the greatest impact out of any player in the tournament (during those group stage matches).

Blitzwing
15 Dec 2007, 06:56 AM
um totti isnt really a striker hes a CF much liek del piero or messi. and ibra is good but still hes not the best in hes league. drogba is good but as teso has pointed out his scoring record is poor.
i still say its trezeguet.

Totti used to be more of a AM/SS in the past playing in the "hole" but the last few seasons he has shifted up front more, to the point now where he leads Roma's attack. Messi plays outwide and Del Piero likes to come from deep and drift as well, but Totti plays very central now similar to a target man the entire Roma attack plays off him I classify him as a striker at the moment.

And if Ibra is not the best striker in Serie A now then who is?? Gilardino?:p

Of course but Klose also had a phenomenal WC. He is nowhere near as prolific as Ruud has been in the CL but he has done great on the international stage, some consider the WC the highest stage.

It probably is the highest stage in terms of prestige but in terms of quality? no way, I am sure not many would put much weight on his hattrick against Saudi Arabia in 02' or his doubles against Costa Rica and Ecuador in 06' that's already 7 of his 10 world cup goals accounted for, another 2 came against Cameroon and Rep of Ireland (again no disrepect to them but far from world class teams...) and 1 against Argentina in the quaters in 06'. Klose is good but I don't think he can be considered any where near the best.

retardinho
15 Dec 2007, 07:55 AM
obviously fernando torres

kemgooner
15 Dec 2007, 12:02 PM
The best striker now is Totti, then Drogba, Zlatan, Ruud....

ForeverRed
15 Dec 2007, 05:09 PM
It probably is the highest stage in terms of prestige but in terms of quality? no way, I am sure not many would put much weight on his hattrick against Saudi Arabia in 02' or his doubles against Costa Rica and Ecuador in 06' that's already 7 of his 10 world cup goals accounted for, another 2 came against Cameroon and Rep of Ireland (again no disrepect to them but far from world class teams...) and 1 against Argentina in the quaters in 06'. Klose is good but I don't think he can be considered any where near the best.

See, when it comes to the WC, it really doesn't matter who you score against. Every striker will face these "smaller" teams and score against them. Its all relative. The same goes for club performances to a lesser degree. You cannot discount what Klose does for the club because you know the quality he posseses at the international stage. Klose is definetley amongst the best strikers in the world.

Again, I don't really think there is ONE who towers above the rest.

Teso Dos Bichos
15 Dec 2007, 06:45 PM
if you are implying Robben was useless the last world cup then you must have slept through Netherland's group stage matches. He was not only the most impressive dutch player those first two games, but arguably had the greatest impact out of any player in the tournament (during those group stage matches).

Robben, like Van Persie and Sneijder, was useless. You can also add Van Basten to that list of shame for his ineptitude. You had Robben and Van Persie going on hero runs and refusing to pass to their teammates. You then had Sneijder being anonymous behind them. The end result was Ruud having zero service, only three goals being scored overall and the team crashing out of the competition. Van Basten even laughably dropped Ruud for Dirk, who suffered exactly the same problem.

XSempreJuveX
15 Dec 2007, 07:10 PM
the best striker in serie a is trezeguet. look at the stats

phil80
16 Dec 2007, 01:26 AM
Robben, like Van Persie and Sneijder, was useless. You can also add Van Basten to that list of shame for his ineptitude. You had Robben and Van Persie going on hero runs and refusing to pass to their teammates. You then had Sneijder being anonymous behind them. The end result was Ruud having zero service, only three goals being scored overall and the team crashing out of the competition. Van Basten even laughably dropped Ruud for Dirk, who suffered exactly the same problem.
It's apparent that your Van Nistelrooy bias is affecting the way you rate other players. First, Robben absolutely dominated Serbia (one of the best single handed performances in the world cup) and in case you forgot he is the one that took the ball from halfline and slipped it through to Van Nistelrooy against Ivory Coast (go back and watch that game). Without him, the Dutch would have struggled a lot more to get out of the group stage. He was rested against Argentina and marked well against Portugal by Miguel, but he had a huge impact for Holland even leading up to the World Cup, this can not be denied.

ITALIA1982
16 Dec 2007, 09:58 AM
Super Pippo!!! has just scored 2 goals in the final of the FIFA Club World Cup to become the only club to win this title 4 times. and he also has the record all time UEFA scorer...as well a world cup medal. not too bad...

ITALIA1982
16 Dec 2007, 10:04 AM
AS well SUPER PIPPO helped AC Milan, who succeeded where the likes of Real Madrid, Manchester United (both 2000), Liverpool (2005) and Barcelona (2006) had failed.

Teso Dos Bichos
16 Dec 2007, 11:52 AM
Super Pippo's UEFA record includes the Intertoto Tournament. :rolleyes:

It's apparent that your Van Nistelrooy bias is affecting the way you rate other players. First, Robben absolutely dominated Serbia (one of the best single handed performances in the world cup) and in case you forgot he is the one that took the ball from halfline and slipped it through to Van Nistelrooy against Ivory Coast (go back and watch that game). Without him, the Dutch would have struggled a lot more to get out of the group stage. He was rested against Argentina and marked well against Portugal by Miguel, but he had a huge impact for Holland even leading up to the World Cup, this can not be denied.

Not at all.