OK, so again, how would YOU make a World Club Championshiop?

[anderson]

Send all your ideas in to Sepp, c/o FIFA House:
Blatter announced that the World Club Championship would resume in 2005, four years after it was abruptly canceled following the collapse of FIFA's marketing company ISL/ISMM, which held the TV rights for the 2002 and 2006 World Cups.

He said that a market study was required to decide whether TV rights would be better sold by a FIFA body or through individual financial partners.http://foxsports.lycos.com/content/view?contentId=813090

[tpmazembe]

Originally posted by RichardL
In Europe the European Championship is viewed as being not far behind the world cup in importance. It isn't some tin-pot gold Cup style trophy that could be scrapped without anyone caring.

You're right...never suggested it. We've gone off-topic, but let me try to explain. I suggested that the WC qualifying be rolled into the Euro process irrespective of a Club championship (probably more fitting of a thread concerning the over extension of international caliber players).

It would not be complicated. Make all euro nations go through one joint qualifying phase, including the the hosts of the Euro.

Assuming a single Euro host, have a process qualifying 15 teams. If the host nation is one of the 15 qualifiers, hold a playoff to admit a 16th team for the Euro finals.

If the Euro host nation is not one of the 15 qualifiers, it receives the 16th slot automatically in order to play the Euro finals at home; HOWEVER it will not play in the following WC even if it wins the Euro.

Originally posted by RichardL
It would also mean that every European team would turn up at the world cup without having played a competitive match for 2 years - hardly ideal preparation.

.... It would be almost impossible to build a team playing so infrequently.

Instead of having the EURO Finals in the even year between WCs, hold them the odd year before the WC. Thus, have qualifications over the period between Jan 2007- Mar 2009, with the Euro Finals during Summer of 2009. Then there's only a year until 2010 WC. Not that much of a probem, given the fact that the teams have been playing together for the previous 30 months. They can play tune up friendlies to practice/perfect tactics, and take steps to ensure their stars come in as healthy as possible into the WC.

The brasil team that won 2002 didn't play together throughout the qualifiers, and tried the 3-4-3 formation mostly during friendlies before the WC. Argentina and France each had well established systems, and a consistent base of players through almost 4 years and look what happened to them. Seems that sound preparation the months immediately preceding the WC, and healthy players at the tournament, counts for more than the number of games played between continental and world cup qualifications.

The fact is, the important clubs are getting more and more fed up with losing their internationals for all these qualifications. It suggests that a major overhaul of the present qualifications systems is coming.

[Mel Brennan]

Originally posted by SoccerScout
I originaly created the thread.

All I will say is that a World Club Championship SHOULD be the Championship everyone wants to see their team in...should be but unfortunetly isnt. People seem to be more interested in having a British champ or German Champ than a WORLD champ, makes little sense, but seems to be what people want. Im surprised that people care at all about a World Cup based on there attitudes about a World Club Cup. (Spare me the 1000 year tradition of the Premier league bla bla bla....tradition has to start somewhere , sometime)

I would pay and love to watch a true world club cup. Screw it that there isnt time...MAKE TIME for a WORLD championship!! Jesus its a world championship! It should be the ULTIMATE title. All championships should lead to it. The schedule just needs to be redone.


After a variety of national championships I would bring

4 Euros
4 South Americans
2 NA/CA
2 Asia
2 Africa
1 Host nation club
1 rest of the world

Get them all at a year end 2 1/2 Week tournament at a predetermined location. Not much different than the 2000 held in Rio de Janeiro. People say nobody cared but you need to continue doing it until people start to care.

I was extremely dissapointed that the 2002 Spain cup in which the Galaxy was to play in was canceled, that was messed up.



Its a shame.

Agreed, this SHOULD happen; its really a European sentiment against it, b/c they feel - maybe rightly?- that the UEFA Champions' League, being possessed of most of the best palyer in the world already, is the de facto CWC...the rest of the world would beg to differ however, and would like a shot to have a definitive...UEFA, of course, would not support anything that threatens the primacy of the UCL...but there is NO QUESTION that it could take the place of the Confed Cup...I care NOT A DAMN about this tournament, and I've traveled from North AMerica to Japan for the last one...but only to get a World Cup stadia preview... FIFA wants World Cup local organizing committees to "practice" with an event prior to the World CUp? Give them, GIVE US, a Club World Championship, in the format listed at the top, in the international "window" reserved for the Confed Cup, and throw that shite out the window...

[RichardL]

Originally posted by Universal
Agreed, this SHOULD happen; its really a European sentiment against it, b/c they feel - maybe rightly?- that the UEFA Champions' League, being possessed of most of the best palyer in the world already, is the de facto CWC...

That isn't the reason. If UEFA tried to re-arrange the champions league so it was a post-season tournament hosted in a single country, everyone would be up in arms about that too.

[Guinho]

Originally posted by PSUdude
I agree...look at all the morons in the US here that say that if you win the league chamionship, you're the WORLD champ??? who the hell outside the US did they beat (Canada doesn't count, that's US Jr.)

And look at all the morons in Europe who complain about that and then turn around to say that Real Madrid are the World Champions!

Amazing!

Guinho

[Oscar]

You of course single out the Europeans because the South Americans who win this prize, and who actually put more worth to it, don't call themselves 'world champion'.

Gotta love this board :D

Amazing!

[AFCA]

Originally posted by Guinho
And look at all the morons in Europe who complain about that and then turn around to say that Real Madrid are the World Champions!

Amazing!

Guinho

I have never heared any European call the CL winner the world champion.

You're talking out of your ass.

[Oscar]

He's talking about the Champion's League? I thought he was talking about that Intercontinental Cup thingie.

Damn, it makes even less sense then :D

[AFCA]

Ofcourse the winner of the Intercontinental Cup is the world champion.

Or does anyone believe any team from any other continent can match the SA and E'pean champions?

Same reason I have no problem with Americans calling their basketbal and baseball and whatever teams world champion. As if anyone outside the US would beat them. As if anyone outside the US cares.

[Elninho]

Originally posted by AFCA
Ofcourse the winner of the Intercontinental Cup is the world champion.

Or does anyone believe any team from any other continent can match the SA and E'pean champions?

Same reason I have no problem with Americans calling their basketbal and baseball and whatever teams world champion. As if anyone outside the US would beat them. As if anyone outside the US cares.

On that note: don't put basketball in the same category as the other sports. The NBA champions have at least justified their World Champion title against international opposition in the annual McDonalds tournament. Even if they always win, I respect the NBA for giving other leagues a chance to knock off their champion. And some teams have actually come close - Paris St. Germain lost to the Chicago Bulls by one point a few years ago and had a chance to win at the end.

[Guinho]

Originally posted by Oscar
He's talking about the Champion's League? I thought he was talking about that Intercontinental Cup thingie.

Damn, it makes even less sense then :D

Give that man a cigar! One routinely sees the Intercontinental Cup winner refered to ask the "World Champion".

One honest tournament to prove it, that's all anyone asks.
Guinho

[RichardL]

Originally posted by Guinho
Give that man a cigar! One routinely sees the Intercontinental Cup winner refered to ask the "World Champion".

One honest tournament to prove it, that's all anyone asks.
Guinho

On the other hand it is also widely recognised as being unofficial and doesn't get much in the way of press coverage.


I think for a tournament to work it has to be as short as possible, with a few teams as possible. And certainly no 'invited' teams from the host country to help sell tickets. The purpose of the tournament has to be about finding a true world club champion, not lining FIFA's pockets with cash. Sadly, at the moment the latter reason is viewed as being the driving force behind it. The last one was cancelled because of the collapse of TV deal.

[MFitz]

The other regions need to rival Europe and to a lesser extent South America before anyone would take a World Club Championship seriously.

[n00bie deluxe]

8 team tourney:

2 UEFA
2 COMENBOL
1 AFC
1 African FC
1 Oceana FC
1 spot open for a playoff between the top 4 FCs.

Divide up teams into 2 groups. Each team plays the others in its group once. Top 2 in each group advancing to semifinals.

Semifinals and finals are one game knockout.

I figure the whole thing can take place in the summer, 2-3 weeks.

[RichardL]

If FIFA give the winners £20,000,000 then you'll see the Euro clubs suddenly take an interest.

[Slash/ED]

I still say the only way you'd ever make this happen is if you scrapped the champions league in favour of a world championship that had matches on the same day you would have champions league matches. You'd simply take some spots off the likes of England/Spain/Italy/Germany and a few others and instead give them to non european leagues, with probably a bigger pre tournament play off for qualification for the 'lesser' nations. That's very very unlikely to ever happen, but it's the only way clubs would ever agree to it and the only way it'd ever have credibility.

[SJJ]

Originally posted by n00bie deluxe
1 spot open for a playoff between the top 4 FCs.

Huh? No Concacaf team, instead, ...I really don't get what this means...

[Argentine Futbol]

Who in their right mind would Wants to play in that tournament? What For?? To prove what??? Europe and South American has the Intercontinental Cup which has been played since 1960! Let the Other confederation wrestle with it. Who would want to see the LA Galaxy - Real Madrid match?? How embarrassing. FIFA is ridiculous sometimes.

[hemariva]

Originally posted by AFCA
Maybe FIFA gets smart.

Maybe I stop a Ronaldo penalty kick.

[comme]

The intercontinental cup is rubbish just like the European super cup and our charity shield, no one cares about it.
In my opinion we should cut the first group stage of the champions league in favour of knock out rounds producing 8 teams. they go into a group stage with8 seeded teams, produced by some UEFA coefficient.

That would cut at least 6 games a season for the best clubs.

The world club cup, could then procede, 16 teams, held directly after the european january break. 4 teams from europe, 4 fom South america, 2 from North america, 2 africa, 2 asia, one from Oceana, and the reigning champion, held every two years. straight knockout comp.