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Various Styles
17 Dec 2002, 05:12 PM
1. Guadalajara /en 10 juegos/ 375 000 / 37 500
2. UNAM /en 9 juegos/ 312 000 / 34 667
3. Tigres /10/ 327 000 / 32.700
4. Atlas /9/ /284 000/ 31 556
5. Monterrey /9/ 275 000/ 30 556
6. América /9/ 238 000/ 26 444 http://digilander.libero.it/doniuccia/faccine/Biggrin/ahah.gif http://digilander.libero.it/doniuccia/faccine/Biggrin/biggrinbounce2.gif
7. Querétaro /9/ 234 000/ 26 000
8. Puebla /9/ 213 000/ 23 667
9. Morelia /9/ 211 000/ 23 444
10. Cruz Azul /10/ 211 000/ 21 100
11. San Luis /10/ 205 000 /20 500
12. Toluca /9/ 169 000/ 18 778
13. Chiapas /9/ 153 000/ 17 000
14. Veracruz /9/ 149 000/ 16.556
15. Pachuca /10/ 150 000/ 15 000
16. Santos /10/ 149 000/ 14 900
17. Atlante /10/ 142 000/ 14 200
18. Celaya /10/ 119 000/ 11 900
19. Tecos /10/ 99 000/ 9 900
20. Necaxa /10/ 93 000/ 9 300
http://eluniversal.com.mx/pls/impreso/noticia.html?id_nota=109090&tabla=notas
Don Boppero 3000
17 Dec 2002, 05:36 PM
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efernandez9
17 Dec 2002, 08:55 PM
sad to see toluca way low.
10 teams twice as much as the best in MLS
LMvCP
17 Dec 2002, 09:23 PM
1. Guadalajara /en 10 juegos/ 375 000 / 37 500
2. UNAM /en 9 juegos/ 312 000 / 34 667
3. Tigres /10/ 327 000 / 32.700
4. Atlas /9/ /284 000/ 31 556
5. Monterrey /9/ 275 000/ 30 556
6. América /9/ 238 000/ 26 444
7. Querétaro /9/ 234 000/ 26 000
8. Puebla /9/ 213 000/ 23 667
9. Morelia /9/ 211 000/ 23 444
10. Cruz Azul /10/ 211 000/ 21 100
11. San Luis /10/ 205 000 /20 500
12. Toluca /9/ 169 000/ 18 778
13. Chiapas /9/ 153 000/ 17 000
14. Veracruz /9/ 149 000/ 16.556
15. Pachuca /10/ 150 000/ 15 000
16. Santos /10/ 149 000/ 14 900
17. Atlante /10/ 142 000/ 14 200
18. Celaya /10/ 119 000/ 11 900
19. Tecos /10/ 99 000/ 9 900
20. Necaxa /10/ 93 000/ 9 300
Those figures are somewhat deceptive.
Teams like UNAM, Chivas, Monterrey, Monterrey faced America, Toluca, Cruz Azul Monarcas at home. So naturally their attendance will be even higher. Teams like America, Cruz Azul, Toluca faced teams like Atlante, Veracruz, San Luis at home. Sorry to say, but its just not worth going to go see them.
Monterrey had the best home games. They faced Tigres, Toluca, America, UNAM, and Chivas at home. Their stadium capacity is 32K and they averaged 30K
I expect those teams to draw less next season since they will face them on the road and thus facing the lesser teams at home.
Toluca and America who were the best teams throughout the season suffered at the box. Its sad to say, but sometimes its just not worth going to go see a pitiful team.
LMvCP
15 Dec 2003, 04:46 PM
i was trying to figure out the attendance for this season..and did a spreadsheet
i couldnt get concrete figures. The FMF site only has the attendance figures as lleno (full), 1/2, 1/3, & 1/4.
So this is how I did it.
i just got the capacity of the stadium and divided by either a half, 3rd, or a 4th.
Each team had either 9 or 10 homes games. I just added them up and divided it by how many home games were played this season.
America - 110,000
55000 - half
36667 - third
27500 - fourth
Chivas - 70000
35000
23333
17500
YOu guys now get the idea of how i got it..
AMerica - 44000
Atlante - 12667
Atlas - 25083
Cruz Azul - 18519
Guadalajara - 35000
Irapuato - 20666
Jaguares - 10000
Monaracas - 17407
Monterrey - 26650
Necaxa - 18741
Pachuca - 14584
Puebla - 17518
Queretaro - 20833
San Luis - 14200
Santos - 16667
Tigres - 42778
Toluca - 14574
UAG - 12000
UNAM - 40667
Veracruz - 21633
Avg. - 22209
Just by looking at other sites and articles about the attendance figures of some games, some of the figures from the FMF appear wrong. For example, there was this game for Pumas that had it a 1/4, but I clearly remember seeing the stadium more than full. THere was also a Puebla game during the mid week where it was almost full, but had it as a 1/3 full. THere were othr figures from other teams that didnt seem right. There were games that i remember watching that included Cruz Azul, Morelia, America, Chivas and Santos. So I think that average is a bit higher than 22209.. I'm guessing 25000-26000. I emailed the FMF to see if they could post actual figures, so if they do get back to me, i will post them up.
just looking at the spreadsheet it amazing how some of the teams have improved this year.
I see Pachucas & San Luis's attendance going up in the next 2 or 3 seasons. Thier are expanding the stadium and building more luxury suites. Pachuca has sold more than half of thier suites and they are not even ready yet.
My hats off to Tigres.. full capacity at their stadium is 45000, they averaged 42778, and im willing to bet that its probably higher. Last season they sold half of the season tickets before the season started
I didnt include Liguilla but those always have great turn outs.
If you guys want to see the spreadsheet, i posted it in our (VS and I) MSN group site.
http://groups.msn.com/MFLpredictionsleague/links.msnw
You guys are welcome to join our chat sessions. Feel free to post pictures, stats, and the predicition league. We had a similar thing during the World Cup but MSN messenger only allowed up to 5 people in a chat session.. here we can have a lot of people join in on the chat sessions. ALso, for the predicitions league, i will make a spreadsheet and upload it onto the site, that way we can keep up with the scores a lot better. Just apply to join in on our chat sessions. Make sure you tell us who you are or we wont allow your membership.
El CHarro_NEgro....
15 Dec 2003, 05:48 PM
Reforma have all the numbers, but now they charge cash for acces to their website.
uclacarlos
16 Dec 2003, 03:09 AM
Originally posted by efernandez9
sad to see toluca way low.
10 teams twice as much as the best in MLS
?
LA Galaxy average just under 22,000. nobody listed in the initial post averaged 44,000. Nine teams, however, beat out the Galaxy, a team for a region that has more Mexicans than all metropolitan areas in Mexico except DF.
Don't get me wrong, most MLS teams would die for most of these #s, and it will be a long, long time b4 MLS can compete w/ MFL as far as attendance. I just would like to set the record straight.
AMEPUNKANIST
16 Dec 2003, 10:12 PM
DON't u think if america ,played in a another city.instead of DF....america asistance will be larger...well yes azteca..no one can beat it...but i guess seeing 40,000 fans in azteca..kinda looks empty....look how necaxa is doing now in aguascalientes...
Originally posted by efernandez9
sad to see toluca way low.
10 teams twice as much as the best in MLS
Their stadium capacity should have something to do with it.
I am suprised Monterrey is not in 1st place. Every match I see them playing at home is in front of a full crowd.
LMvCP
17 Dec 2003, 02:47 AM
Originally posted by futbol de primera
I am suprised Monterrey is not in 1st place. Every match I see them playing at home is in front of a full crowd.
thats because you are getting the view from the top deck overlooking the adjacent stands. So you really dont see the top deck
the way the stadium is built makes it look full. its dug into the ground
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