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Pilum
29 Sep 2005, 06:41 AM
So, just started night classes, saw a poster up on the message board that my local pub was having a "metal vs emo" night. On further perusal it turned out it was a College Band Night (NNNNOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! The horror, oh the horror.....) but it got me thinking - what is emo? Is it what we used to call Goth before that was transformed into a general term for metalheads?
Yes, I realise by making this thread I am officially old. And yes, the slippers are very comfortable, thank you for asking.
Not sure Emo has anything to do with Goth, Goth is Metal. Emo is not. Emo to me is just twangy, creative, often pretentious music about unrequited crushes and miscommunications with the opposite sex. Wailing and whining much of the time. Sensitive rock. Geek rock. IMO it sounds great. 100% more interesting than any kind of pop.
....in short doses anyway. :) may induce suicidal tendencies if overdosed upon.
Pilum
29 Sep 2005, 09:34 AM
Partly why I'm asking, Art. :) 'Goth' to me means those bands from the 80's, usually with a black lace obsession. Y'know, Sisters of Mercy, Fields of the Nephilim, that sort of thing... But I've got no frame of reference for 'emo'. What sort of bands are we talking about here? Marilyn Manson? Coldplay (not sure they belong in ANY thread about music, but you did mention pretentious musical masturbation :D)? The Rasmus?
I've never heard the term before, though admittedly I've not been going to the clubs or buying the magazines for a while now (money, basically. :( )
Alex_K
29 Sep 2005, 09:54 AM
Not sure Emo has anything to do with Goth, Goth is Metal.
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00005OM5K.03.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
This is Metal. "Goth" is not. Please keep Metal out of discussions involving both Gothic and Emo.
Thanks :).
bungadiri
29 Sep 2005, 10:22 AM
So, just started night classes, saw a poster up on the message board that my local pub was having a "metal vs emo" night. On further perusal it turned out it was a College Band Night (NNNNOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! The horror, oh the horror.....) but it got me thinking - what is emo? Is it what we used to call Goth before that was transformed into a general term for metalheads?
Yes, I realise by making this thread I am officially old. And yes, the slippers are very comfortable, thank you for asking.
You know that sense of relief you got during big lecture classes in college when somebody else asked a question you'd really wanted to know the answer to but were afraid to ask because you assumed everybody but you knew the answer?
I'm feeling something like that now.
minorthreat
29 Sep 2005, 10:34 AM
In a nutshell, emo is (usually) a form of pop-punk with highly personal lyrics that usually involve drama of the high school variety or that girl that broke the singer's heart in the sixth grade that he still hasn't gotten over. The musicians that play it dress similarly to, but not quite as well as, hipsters, and are almost exclusively upper middle class WASPs and Jews from New Jersey.
bojendyk
29 Sep 2005, 11:50 AM
The term "emo" actually goes all the way back to the Rites of Spring record. It used to mean frenzied, emotional, cathartic punk rock.
Now it means wussy music for guys who have girl friends but not girlfriends.
doppelganger
29 Sep 2005, 12:51 PM
I always found him rather funny...
then:
http://www.ipass.net/jthrush/emoweb.jpg
now:
http://www.jimpoz.com/quotes/images/speakers/phillips-e.jpg
milbrett
29 Sep 2005, 01:25 PM
these are some bands that I'd label as Emo:
Simple Plan
Fall Out Boy
My Chemical Romance
Good Charlotte
Trust Company
The Used
Early November
Snow Patrol
some are a little lighter than others but those are a few bands
JohnnyCash
29 Sep 2005, 03:24 PM
A guide to emo
http://makeoutclub.com/
Claymore
29 Sep 2005, 03:50 PM
Emo just hasn't been the same since he broke up with Judy Tenuta.
Partly why I'm asking, Art. :) 'Goth' to me means those bands from the 80's, usually with a black lace obsession. Y'know, Sisters of Mercy, Fields of the Nephilim, that sort of thing... But I've got no frame of reference for 'emo'. What sort of bands are we talking about here? Marilyn Manson? Coldplay (not sure they belong in ANY thread about music, but you did mention pretentious musical masturbation :D)? The Rasmus?
I've never heard the term before, though admittedly I've not been going to the clubs or buying the magazines for a while now (money, basically. :( )
It's somewhere between a sort of mid-tempo punk or hardcore and a softy whiny pop like you get with Coldplay; sorta-kinda, anything from Dag Nasty all the way up to stuff like Jets to Brazil or Built to Spill, or probably Jimmy Eat World, even stuff like Postal Service in a way, though many would probably disagree with Postal Service.
IMO Goth is just metal with different hairdos & subject matter, and Marylin Manson is just glam rock, theyre not doing anything NY Dolls or T Rex wasnt already doing 30 years ago...well ok maybe exept for the man-boobs.
gocaps
29 Sep 2005, 05:13 PM
The term "emo" actually goes all the way back to the Rites of Spring record. It used to mean frenzied, emotional, cathartic punk rock.
Now it means wussy music for guys who have girl friends but not girlfriends.
Dead on. The Rites of Spring CD is one of the most cathartic rock listening experiences you will ever have. There is absolutely nothing "cool" about it - it is all urgency and passion and naked emotion.
Today's "emo" is mostly whining about girls, and not always even over punk rock guitars. The most popular of the current crop of "emo" bands are:
A. Dashboard Confessional, who writes good pop songs but is completely wussed out
B. Simple Plan - the most unlistenable, God-awful band this side of Limp Bizkit
C. New Found Glory - the second-most unlistenable, God-awful band this side of Limp Bizkit
D. Fall Out Boy - competent, nothing more.
There are a few current bands that do an OK job with the style - these include Taking Back Sunday, Thursday, My Chemical Romance, and Brand New. But none of them sound anything like the DC bands that created it (which include Rites of Spring, One Last Wish, and Embrace) or even like Sunny Day Real Estate, which revived the style in the early '90s.
SirManchester
29 Sep 2005, 06:03 PM
these are some bands that I'd label as Emo:
Simple Plan
Fall Out Boy
My Chemical Romance
Good Charlotte
Trust Company
The Used
Early November
Snow Patrol
some are a little lighter than others but those are a few bands
My Chemical Romance is the only one worth listening to from that list, and even they still have to get their act together, other than that they have lots of potential.
By the way, I hate EMO fashion!!!!!! I hope none of you dress like that.
obie
29 Sep 2005, 06:19 PM
The musicians that play it dress similarly to, but not quite as well as, hipsters, and are almost exclusively upper middle class WASPs and Jews from New Jersey.
Long Island is the epicenter of the emo movement.
SirManchester
29 Sep 2005, 06:23 PM
Long Island is the epicenter of the emo movement.
Tell me about it, I went to school in LI for a year and was totaly surrounded by the likes, and to my surprise there were a lot of EMO posers there too. Can you imagine that? EMO posers! That's insane :eek:
BayernWake
29 Sep 2005, 07:01 PM
My Chemical Romance is the only one worth listening to from that list, and even they still have to get their act together, other than that they have lots of potential.
By the way, I hate EMO fashion!!!!!! I hope none of you dress like that.
I've never heard My Chemical Romance, but a friend of mine just started dating the lead singer.
SirManchester
29 Sep 2005, 07:07 PM
I've never heard My Chemical Romance, but a friend of mine just started dating the lead singer.
ooohh..connections!!
gocaps
29 Sep 2005, 07:21 PM
I've never heard My Chemical Romance, but a friend of mine just started dating the lead singer.
Something tells me she should be prepared for issues - it's been reported in many press outlets about his having family problems and a serious addictive streak, although he has recently cleaned up.
gocaps
29 Sep 2005, 07:23 PM
Tell me about it, I went to school in LI for a year and was totaly surrounded by the likes, and to my surprise there were a lot of EMO posers there too. Can you imagine that? EMO posers! That's insane :eek:
This is one of the things that kills me about "emo". It was created in DC, kept going by a band from Seattle (Sunny Day), and now that it's time to make some money the (mostly inferior and watered-down) bands from Long Island - right in the backyard of the record labels - are the ones getting pub. Industry people are lazy as well as shady.