Who's the best coach/manager?

[Duck Manson]

1. How is he expected to win the CL when it didn't even exist?
2. Ferguson had European success with Aberdeen. Try educating yourself.
3. Chelsea by some distance. 1 The CL does exist. CL = UEFA Champions League. 2 Did he win the European Cup with Aberdeen? Did not know that. 3 Chelsea doesn't count.

[Andy Bennett]

1 The CL does exist. CL = UEFA Champions League.
But he's saying it didn't 20 years ago. It's been going since 1992, IIRC, so that's 16 years.

[Duck Manson]

But he's saying it didn't 20 years ago. It's been going since 1992, IIRC, so that's 16 years.I know that. He's just nitpicking because he knows I'm right.

[cr7torossi]

I know that. He's just nitpicking because he knows I'm right.

Why do you keep coming back to this crap about finals.. There are no prizes for losing in the finals, just like there are no prizes for losing in the semis...

[Duck Manson]

Why do you keep coming back to this crap about finals.. There are no prizes for losing in the finals, just like there are no prizes for losing in the semis...Sure there are. If you lose in the final you get a second place trophy and that's fantastic!

[Teso Dos Bichos]

There are only winners and losers. Congrats on celebrating being the latter.

1 The CL does exist. CL = UEFA Champions League. 2 Did he win the European Cup with Aberdeen? Did not know that. 3 Chelsea doesn't count.

1. It did not 20 years ago. Perhaps instead of continuing this pathetic line you should simply concede that you made a mistake.

2. You attempted to belittle Ferguson's achievements in Scotland which consisted of regularly beating the Old Firm, beating Real Madrid to the Cup Winners Cup and beating HSV to the Super Cup. I suppose 'the pig' outspent all of the aforementioned teams? I'll ignore your asinine comparison to the Swedish League. I also never once stated that he won the EC with Aberdeen but you knew that already and at least you have acknowledged that a competition did exist before the creation of the CL.

3. So they don't count because it doesn't suit your ignorant view?

[tutto_azzurri]

People are quick to forget about his exploits North of the border and are pretty ignorant about the state of Man Utd when he took over.



that was the past...look at his team now, and even a couple years ago.. i think my little brother could coach that team.

[Teso Dos Bichos]

I could say likewise for any big team.

[tutto_azzurri]

that said i feel capello is the best coach, but i personally like lippi


capello wins where ever he goes, roma, juve, real, it doesn't matter...and yes, i agree in advance, he doesn't coach the most beautiful football..

[tutto_azzurri]

I could say likewise for any big team.

i agree, look at mancini..

[Teso Dos Bichos]

The simple fact is 95% of what a manager does is done behind the scenes. Granted I just made that percentage up but you get the point. What happens on match day is what we see but it is merely the culmination of everything that has happened during the week. Plus once a manager puts his XI out his job is effectively done (aside from a few tweaks here or there and substitutions) and the bulk of the reponsibility rests with the players.

[Perú FC]

That's just a list of numbers and managers names. Are we supposed to gather something from that??? Where's it come from? :confused:
Actually isn't, as usually happens when anyone put numbers, I put them in order. It isn't necessary to suppose anything about that, it's only a list naming the 20 best coaches from my point of view.

[Andy Bennett]

Actually isn't, as usually happens when anyone put numbers, I put them in order. It isn't necessary to suppose anything about that, it's only a list naming the 20 best coaches from my point of view.
Well, USUALLY, people provide some idea of the criteria they've used in making their selections.... or maybe I'm very old fashioned.

Well, I am very old fashioned but you know what I mean :D

[Perú FC]

Well, USUALLY, people provide some idea of the criteria they've used in making their selections.... or maybe I'm very old fashioned.
I'd vote for the second option for this theme :D. I don't believe it can be explained objectively at all, you can't take as argument the results or achievements because as individual personages in a collective sport they don't have always all the credit or discredit, besides the most part of his job isn't public to try to analyze it deeply.

I think one only can guide himself for the impression of the intelligent of its approaches or the form which exploits the abilities of his players, and that's something quite subjective to form a common criterion.

[Untroubled by Reason]

The simple fact is 95% of what a manager does is done behind the scenes. Granted I just made that percentage up but you get the point. What happens on match day is what we see but it is merely the culmination of everything that has happened during the week. Plus once a manager puts his XI out his job is effectively done (aside from a few tweaks here or there and substitutions) and the bulk of the reponsibility rests with the players.
There's a lot of truth here. The answer to "who's the best manager?" lies in "which team's players are the best-prepared?" and judging that objectively is a challenge. I'd also agree that making timely, effective personnel and tactical changes in the match are indicative of management excellence.

There are some who put considerable stock in how club managers spend their money, but of course, that is irrelevant for international team, where it's all about selection from the available players.

[Yañez]

Lippi and Pellegrini are the in top 5. I rate Pellegrini higher though cause hes done the same, with a lot less than Lippi.

[Duck Manson]

Lippi and Pellegrini are the in top 5. I rate Pellegrini higher though cause hes done the same, with a lot less than Lippi.Yeah? How many titles does Pellegrini have?

[Yañez]

Yeah? How many titles does Pellegrini have?

My bad, how the hell did i get Lippi there? I meant Spalletti.

[Caturro]

Yeah? How many titles does Pellegrini have?

Universidad Católica
1994 Copa Interamericana
1995 Copa Chile

LDU Quito
1999 Campeonato Ecuatoriano de Fútbol

San Lorenzo
2001 Clausura
2001 Copa Mercosur

River Plate
2003 Clausura

Villarreal
2004 UEFA Intertoto Cup

[Duck Manson]

Universidad Católica
1994 Copa Interamericana
1995 Copa Chile

LDU Quito
1999 Campeonato Ecuatoriano de Fútbol

San Lorenzo
2001 Clausura
2001 Copa Mercosur

River Plate
2003 Clausura

Villarreal
2004 UEFA Intertoto CupWhat, no Norway-Cup or Japanese 3rd div titles to speak of?

Sorry but the only titles that count are Italian, Spanish and English league titles, CL and UEFA cup titles and the World Cup and European Championships.