View Full Version : Who's the best coach/manager?
JAIME CHILE
07 Sep 2006, 09:21 PM
Marcello Lippi.
Not only for the World Cup, but for his previous job in italian clubs.
Look Italy pre-Lippi and post-Lippi (Trap and Donadoni did it horrible).
¿Mourinho?
Come on, he has the best squad of the world (Chelsea), and he couldn't be eurochampion. With that players, he should win the Champions League and the Intercontinental Cup.
GREAT job in Porto, yes; but with Chelsea in Champions League he didn't even got into the Final.
schafer
07 Sep 2006, 10:18 PM
Marcello Lippi.
Not only for the World Cup, but for his previous job in italian clubs.
Look Italy pre-Lippi and post-Lippi (Trap and Donadoni did it horrible).
¿Mourinho?
Come on, he has the best squad of the world (Chelsea), and he couldn't be eurochampion. With that players, he should win the Champions League and the Intercontinental Cup.
GREAT job in Porto, yes; but with Chelsea in Champions League he didn't even got into the Final.
I'm not saying Mourinho is the best, but you can't discount his accomplishments with Porto so easily. Not to mention the fact that Chelsea could have probably picked most managers to take the job 2 years ago, but they went after Mourinho. Lippi is a good choice, though.
everythingfootball
29 May 2008, 10:49 AM
I voted Sir Alex Ferguson as what he has done with Man Utd over the years have been great.
Duck Manson
30 May 2008, 02:26 AM
I voted Sir Alex Ferguson as what he has done with Man Utd over the years have been great.Ferguson is the most overrated coach in sports history. Theres not a person on earth who would not have success with the players he's had.
glennaldo_sf
30 May 2008, 04:16 AM
Steve Morrow
jackmcmanus21
30 May 2008, 09:12 AM
Sir Alex no question
Andy Bennett
30 May 2008, 08:11 PM
This 'poll' is about 2 years old fellas!!!
Anyway, the answer's Brian Clough.
Teso Dos Bichos
30 May 2008, 11:21 PM
Ferguson is the most overrated coach in sports history. Theres not a person on earth who would not have success with the players he's had.
People are quick to forget about his exploits North of the border and are pretty ignorant about the state of Man Utd when he took over.
Andy Bennett
31 May 2008, 11:11 AM
People are quick to forget about his exploits North of the border and are pretty ignorant about the state of Man Utd when he took over.
For once we're in agreement :eek: :D
Also, it should be pointed out that he actually brought many of those players along through the ManU academy and handled the likes of Giggs, Scholes, Butt, etc. as they matured, bringing in new talent when needed and getting rid of people who were less likely to contribute in the long run.
Having said that it's certainly true to say that it's easier to succeed at ManU, Madrid, Milan, etc, with their level of support, (read: income), than at other clubs.
Duck Manson
31 May 2008, 02:58 PM
People are quick to forget about his exploits North of the border and are pretty ignorant about the state of Man Utd when he took over.You're right. I don't know much about his exploits north of the border, but what he's done for Man Utd isn't that impressive. Have a look at the players he's had and the money spent. I tend to be impressed with managers who get more out of their squad then expected (like Lippi, Mourinho, Advocaat, Capello has done). Alex hasn't done that. He has two Champions League / European Cup Finals in 20 or so years. Don't you think that's a bit low? Lippi had three CL Finals in a row, and a UEFA Cup Final the year before that stretch. I know it's a cup and anything can happen, and I certainly don't measure a teams success on cups, but still. With the teams he's had I'd expect more. The only reason he's up there is because he has a truck-load of domestic trophies.
Duck Manson
31 May 2008, 03:05 PM
it should be pointed out that he actually brought many of those players along through the ManU academy and handled the likes of Giggs, Scholes, Butt, etc. I wouldn't give Alex the credit for the work done at Man Utds acadamies. He doesn't do that work. I give him credit for giving the young players a chance though. Something Capello, Lippi, Mourinho etc. probably wouldn't have done. Not to that extent atleast.
Andy Bennett
31 May 2008, 08:28 PM
Alex hasn't done that. He has two Champions League / European Cup Finals in 20 or so years. Don't you think that's a bit low?
All English sides suffered from the 5 year ban from '85-'90 and it took a few years to get over that. We just couldn't attract the high quality players with euro experience you need and without them you can't do well. If you don't do well you can't attract the high quality players with euro experince. It's a vicious circle and it's taken years to get back to where we should be.
cr7torossi
31 May 2008, 08:37 PM
You're right. I don't know much about his exploits north of the border, but what he's done for Man Utd isn't that impressive. Have a look at the players he's had and the money spent. I tend to be impressed with managers who get more out of their squad then expected (like Lippi, Mourinho, Advocaat, Capello has done). Alex hasn't done that. He has two Champions League / European Cup Finals in 20 or so years. Don't you think that's a bit low? Lippi had three CL Finals in a row, and a UEFA Cup Final the year before that stretch. I know it's a cup and anything can happen, and I certainly don't measure a teams success on cups, but still. With the teams he's had I'd expect more. The only reason he's up there is because he has a truck-load of domestic trophies.
There are no prizes for coming 2nd. Lippi has only won 1 European Cup, Fergie on the other hand has won 2 European Cups and 2 Cup Winners Cup. Period.
If we are going to start giving Lippi credit for finishing 2nd, we might as well start giving Fergie credit for losing in the semi-finals and quarter-finals innumerable number of times.
Duck Manson
01 Jun 2008, 04:54 PM
There are no prizes for coming 2nd. Lippi has only won 1 European Cup, Fergie on the other hand has won 2 European Cups and 2 Cup Winners Cup. Period.
If we are going to start giving Lippi credit for finishing 2nd, we might as well start giving Fergie credit for losing in the semi-finals and quarter-finals innumerable number of times.OK then. Might as well give Lippi credit for the WC and then he blows Alex away.
Teso Dos Bichos
01 Jun 2008, 09:08 PM
So you are bashing Ferguson for not being an international manager?
Duck Manson
02 Jun 2008, 05:41 AM
So you are bashing Ferguson for not being an international manager?No I'm 'bashing' Alex for not having won more.
Teso Dos Bichos
02 Jun 2008, 08:47 PM
I hate doing this but not won enough???
Sir Alex Ferguson
Domestic competitions:
Scottish First Division - 1976-77, 1979-80, 1983-84, 1984-85
Scottish Cup - 1981-82, 1982-83, 1983-84, 1985-86
Scottish League Cup - 1985-86
Premier League - 1992–93, 1993–94, 1995–96, 1996–97, 1998–99, 1999–2000, 2000–01, 2002–03, 2006–07, 2007–08
FA Cup - 1989-90, 1993-94, 1995-96, 1998-99, 2003-04
League Cup - 1991-92, 2005-06
FA Charity/Community Shield - 1990 (shared), 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007
European competitions:
UEFA Cup Winners' Cup - 1982-83, 1990-91
UEFA Super Cup - 1983, 1991
UEFA Champions League - 1998-99, 2007-08
International competitions:
Intercontinental Cup - 1999
balla
03 Jun 2008, 12:09 AM
I hate doing this but not won enough???
Sir Alex Ferguson
Domestic competitions:
Scottish First Division - 1976-77, 1979-80, 1983-84, 1984-85
Scottish Cup - 1981-82, 1982-83, 1983-84, 1985-86
Scottish League Cup - 1985-86
Premier League - 1992–93, 1993–94, 1995–96, 1996–97, 1998–99, 1999–2000, 2000–01, 2002–03, 2006–07, 2007–08
FA Cup - 1989-90, 1993-94, 1995-96, 1998-99, 2003-04
League Cup - 1991-92, 2005-06
FA Charity/Community Shield - 1990 (shared), 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007
European competitions:
UEFA Cup Winners' Cup - 1982-83, 1990-91
UEFA Super Cup - 1983, 1991
UEFA Champions League - 1998-99, 2007-08
International competitions:
Intercontinental Cup - 1999Hitzfeld has won more I think having coached less seasons
Duck Manson
03 Jun 2008, 02:53 AM
IUEFA Champions League - 1998-99, 2007-0820 years.. And both times it was a robbery. Terrible.
Perú FC
03 Jun 2008, 06:04 AM
01. Guus Hiddink (Russia)
02. Marcello Lippi (Italy)
03. Sergio Markarián (Cruz Azul)
04. Arsene Wenger (Arsenal)
05. Fabio Capello (England)
06. Carlos Bianchi (Inactive)
07. Carlo Ancelotti (AC Milan)
08. Rafael Benítez (Liverpool)
09. Dick Advocaat (Zenit Saint Petersburg)
10. Luiz Felipe Scolari (Portugal)
11. Cesare Prandelli (Fiorentina)
12. Alex Ferguson (Manchester United)
13. Gérard Houllier (Inactive)
14. Walter Smith (Rangers)
15. Felix Magath (Wolfsburg)
16. Émerson Leao (Santos)
17. Miguel Ángel Brindisi (Atlas)
18. Gerardo Martino (Paraguay)
19. José Mourinho (Inter Milan)
20. Ottmar Hitzfeld (Bayern Münich)