Teso Dos Bichos
02 Nov 2008, 11:36 PM
so you agree that Buffon worked wonders for Juventus and was crucial to their success.:rolleyes:
But I realllly hope your not implying that Juve's defensive 4 last year were that much better than Fiorentina's? which is the only thing I could think of with you making that statement.
all bullshit aside, it seems like that we both agree Buffon is the better goalkeeper... i think. And your just saying that Frey was more important to Fiorentina then Buffon was to Juventus... I'm not going to agree with that... I'm gonna say it again "Buffon is as an important keeper to Juventus as any keeper to any club in the world." and that includes Frey to Fiorentina and Cassilas to Real Madrid and I think Julio Cesar is not as important to Inter Milan but that fact doesn't automatically make him a bad keeper.
I never once denied what Buffon or Julio Cesar have done for their respective clubs. What everyone else has done is denied what Frey has done for Fiorentina. Anyone who has seen the majority of their games last season would know exactly what I am talking about. As I said previously you seem to keep getting confused between talent and form. Frey, over the last season, is ahead of both based on the latter.
And you gotta be kidding when you say Juves defence last year was WAY better then Fiorentinas, that's just outright wrong imo.
It has more to do than the defense but also the midfield and general style of play. Juventus usually played Zanetti and Nocerino/Sissoko in central midfield. That is as defensive as they come. Contrast that to Fiorentina who pushed their full-backs foward and played a more attacking 4-3-3 with only Liverani or Donadel sitting in central midfield. They played a far more open game which left Frey exposed.
If you really did watch Serie A you wouldn't even get into that argument. Julio Cesar had by far the higher number of difficult saves last season. Some situations he got his team out of were out of this world. I don't have any stat to back this up, I just watch the games every week, while you don't. I'm not gonna spend hours searching for numbers in the internet to prove something that anyone who cares to watch before commenting on forums would know.
You should not be questioning my knowledge of Serie A.
But I realllly hope your not implying that Juve's defensive 4 last year were that much better than Fiorentina's? which is the only thing I could think of with you making that statement.
all bullshit aside, it seems like that we both agree Buffon is the better goalkeeper... i think. And your just saying that Frey was more important to Fiorentina then Buffon was to Juventus... I'm not going to agree with that... I'm gonna say it again "Buffon is as an important keeper to Juventus as any keeper to any club in the world." and that includes Frey to Fiorentina and Cassilas to Real Madrid and I think Julio Cesar is not as important to Inter Milan but that fact doesn't automatically make him a bad keeper.
I never once denied what Buffon or Julio Cesar have done for their respective clubs. What everyone else has done is denied what Frey has done for Fiorentina. Anyone who has seen the majority of their games last season would know exactly what I am talking about. As I said previously you seem to keep getting confused between talent and form. Frey, over the last season, is ahead of both based on the latter.
And you gotta be kidding when you say Juves defence last year was WAY better then Fiorentinas, that's just outright wrong imo.
It has more to do than the defense but also the midfield and general style of play. Juventus usually played Zanetti and Nocerino/Sissoko in central midfield. That is as defensive as they come. Contrast that to Fiorentina who pushed their full-backs foward and played a more attacking 4-3-3 with only Liverani or Donadel sitting in central midfield. They played a far more open game which left Frey exposed.
If you really did watch Serie A you wouldn't even get into that argument. Julio Cesar had by far the higher number of difficult saves last season. Some situations he got his team out of were out of this world. I don't have any stat to back this up, I just watch the games every week, while you don't. I'm not gonna spend hours searching for numbers in the internet to prove something that anyone who cares to watch before commenting on forums would know.
You should not be questioning my knowledge of Serie A.