SAN JOSE or KANSAS CITY To MOVE?

[footballboy]

Hey fellas, btn SJ and KC who doyou think should be relocated?.Personally. KC should, especially due to their attendance compared to SJ's. The fans at Spartan are always electric.. at Arrowhead, it's kind of dull..

[falvo]

Well I'm biased as a Quakes fan but I think you are right! Attendance has been pretty good as of late. I doubt they will draw this much in TEXAS!
I still fail to realize AEG's position on the Quakes....Here is a team whom Uncle Phil wants dropped off the map or sold into oblivion or broken up or what have you....Yet they win 2 MLS CUPS and are having another thriller year and possibly another CUP. Their performance speaks for itself! I think right now, you couldn't find many teams playing the level of soccer that SJ is playing! I've yet to see New England play this year but I don't think they are playing as good as the Quakes are! KC had Preki but he is done! He even said playing in front of 8-9k is not as good as playing front of 13k in Spartan!

LA seems to get whomever they want! Jorge Campos, Carlos Hermosillo, Luis Hernandez, Cienfuegos & now Landon Donovan....I mean come on!
On paper alone , with that group of stars, they should have won more than only 1 MLS cup!
I forgot to mention Paul Caligiuri & if he wanted to play Jurgen Klinssman...
Not only that, they get a brand new HDC stadium!
Why should they get all the breaks?
Its not fair!
If this is a single entity league then everything should be equal however, it is not!
LA is too expensive overrated and to tell you the truth , I think they are bunch of spoiled brats....
MOVE KC AND LEAVE OUR QUAKES ALONE!

[GalaxyFutbolForever]

Kansas City first, no doubt about it. They should be out right away. THen SJ, maybe.

[falvo]

Why should San Jose have to move? I mean they have always had a good soccer history here in San Jose and even though the Galaxy doesn't want to admit it, they have won more MLS CUPS that LA has.
If AEG got behind this San Jose team like they do with the Galaxy and having them get a new stadium and what have you, there is no telling what this franchise would do. They are playing exceptional soccer and they look better than I've ever seen anyone play in the MLS. LA had Sigi, and its still beyond me why they would fire him and get Ralph Sampson especially while he was in 1st place. I mean even though Ralph is a Santa Clara guy , I've always thought he had all the breaks. He got to coach the national team, Costa Rica, then the Galaxy? What has he really ever done to prove himself other than winning a co-ncaa with Santa Clara u in 1990?
I'm sure if SJ had a better stadium or if SJSU would share more of the revenue with the club, San Jose would be a very classy organization.

[Merlin172]

Wow... this isn't a conversation we've ever had on the boards before. :rolleyes:

The most reliable information from those in the know has both teams staying put, so let's just let this whole thing go.

[CL_2004]

KC should move.

[joebloe888]

Aguilas USA de Houston will be part of MLS in 2006, whether AEG or Televisa owns it. San Jose Earthquakes are toast. AEG will finally escape from San Jose, "the Detroit of the 21st Century." AEG is negotiating NOW for a stadium deal in Houston.

The KC Wizards will be sold by Hunt Sports Group to another outfit. Whether the Wizards will become Tigres USA de Dallas (2nd tenant in Frisco) or something else is anyone's guess at this point.

[joebloe888]

Why should San Jose have to move? I mean they have always had a good soccer history here in San Jose and even though the Galaxy doesn't want to admit it, they have won more MLS CUPS that LA has.
If AEG got behind this San Jose team like they do with the Galaxy and having them get a new stadium and what have you, there is no telling what this franchise would do. They are playing exceptional soccer and they look better than I've ever seen anyone play in the MLS. LA had Sigi, and its still beyond me why they would fire him and get Ralph Sampson especially while he was in 1st place. I mean even though Ralph is a Santa Clara guy , I've always thought he had all the breaks. He got to coach the national team, Costa Rica, then the Galaxy? What has he really ever done to prove himself other than winning a co-ncaa with Santa Clara u in 1990?
I'm sure if SJ had a better stadium or if SJSU would share more of the revenue with the club, San Jose would be a very classy organization.

The Quakes have ZERO future in San Jose.

AEG knows it.

Everyone else other than those diehard Quakes season ticket holders know it.

San Jose is the "Detroit of the 21st Century", with a stagnant economy, outrageous cost of living, and absurd cost of real estate.

There is also no guarantee that the "next big thing" will take place in Silicon Valley instead of Bangalore or Beijing.

AEG is actively negotiating a stadium lease in Houston NOW. AEG won't wait for Televisa to make up its mind before getting the Quakes out of San Jose into Houston.

Remember that AEG is in the real estate business, not the sports business. MLS is just a convenient vehicle for AEG to get public funding to build concert venues masquerading as stadiums.

AEG decided a long time ago that Silicon Valley was NOT the place to invest in a concert venue.

[falvo]

The Quakes have ZERO future in San Jose.

AEG knows it.

Everyone else other than those diehard Quakes season ticket holders know it.

San Jose is the "Detroit of the 21st Century", with a stagnant economy, outrageous cost of living, and absurd cost of real estate.

There is also no guarantee that the "next big thing" will take place in Silicon Valley instead of Bangalore or Beijing.

AEG is actively negotiating a stadium lease in Houston NOW. AEG won't wait for Televisa to make up its mind before getting the Quakes out of San Jose into Houston.
Remember that AEG is in the real estate business, not the sports business. MLS is just a convenient vehicle for AEG to get public funding to build concert venues masquerading as stadiums.

AEG decided a long time ago that Silicon Valley was NOT the place to invest in a concert venue.

Do you really know this for a fact or are you talking on emotion? I hope you are wrong about the Quakes future.
I do however agree with you, the area's real estate is crazy, the cost of living is way too high, and the economy is lousy.....

[tonyh01]

The Quakes have ZERO future in San Jose.

AEG knows it.

Everyone else other than those diehard Quakes season ticket holders know it.

San Jose is the "Detroit of the 21st Century", with a stagnant economy, outrageous cost of living, and absurd cost of real estate.

There is also no guarantee that the "next big thing" will take place in Silicon Valley instead of Bangalore or Beijing.

AEG is actively negotiating a stadium lease in Houston NOW. AEG won't wait for Televisa to make up its mind before getting the Quakes out of San Jose into Houston.

Remember that AEG is in the real estate business, not the sports business. MLS is just a convenient vehicle for AEG to get public funding to build concert venues masquerading as stadiums.

AEG decided a long time ago that Silicon Valley was NOT the place to invest in a concert venue.

that's pure comedy (both posts)...thanks for the laugh. :D

[Goodsport]

that's pure comedy (both posts)...thanks for the laugh. :D

Oliver Tse: Providing comic relief since the San Jose Earthquakes would be gone by 2002. :D


-G

[jawswinger]

I hope neither teams have to move that would be a shame.



I’m not sure I can agree with there is no future in San Jose??? That’s the lamest comment on this board so far... lol The economy is stagnant? I believe the unemployment numbers are at about 5% now that’s not half bad the last time I checked. 40 percent of the people working in San Jose have college degrees, and those two things in combination define why the real estate prices the way they are.

GOO Quakes!!!

[joebloe888]

I hope neither teams have to move that would be a shame.



I’m not sure I can agree with there is no future in San Jose??? That’s the lamest comment on this board so far... lol The economy is stagnant? I believe the unemployment numbers are at about 5% now that’s not half bad the last time I checked. 40 percent of the people working in San Jose have college degrees, and those two things in combination define why the real estate prices the way they are.


Have you check the Neilsen TV Household data lately?

The San Francisco-San Jose TV market lost 5% of its households in the past 3 years. The market has fallen from #5 to #6 and is expected to fall to #7 in the next 2-3 years, being passed already by Boston (which is also losing households, but at a slower rate than San Jose) and is expected to be passed by Dallas-Fort Worth soon.

The reasons why official "unemployment" numbers in Silicon Valley are low:

1. Many of the "migrant" tech workers have left the area, returning to places such as Bangalore.

2. Some of the tech workers have always been independent contractors so they don't ever show up on the labor statistics.

Just look around Silicon Valley and you will see the "Detroit of the 21st Century". There are vacancy signs at almost every corner of office/industrial parks. The legendary traffic jams of 1999-2000 are long gone.

[falvo]

Have you check the Neilsen TV Household data lately?

The San Francisco-San Jose TV market lost 5% of its households in the past 3 years. The market has fallen from #5 to #6 and is expected to fall to #7 in the next 2-3 years, being passed already by Boston (which is also losing households, but at a slower rate than San Jose) and is expected to be passed by Dallas-Fort Worth soon.

The reasons why official "unemployment" numbers in Silicon Valley are low:

1. Many of the "migrant" tech workers have left the area, returning to places such as Bangalore.

2. Some of the tech workers have always been independent contractors so they don't ever show up on the labor statistics.

Just look around Silicon Valley and you will see the "Detroit of the 21st Century". There are vacancy signs at almost every corner of office/industrial parks. The legendary traffic jams of 1999-2000 are long gone.
I agree totally. I have been in Europe for the last 4 years and now since I came back, I find myself using empty highways and no more traffic jams with no one around! . In 1998 for example, Great America Parkway was packed with cars and people. So now we have these empty offices that they started building around 1999-2001 all over the place! Most people in Europe & the rest of the world would actually kill to take up residence and even live in one of these. The prices of the homes however, continue to go up. An average home in San Jose costs maybe $600-800k....These are average homes that are not even all that great comfortable and are small and boxy looking and kind of quaint. I was just laughing when Andy Williams complained about making only $100k a year salary playing for REAL and his home in Salt Lake was too high at $359k, give me a break!
That can not even by you a condo here! Now they are saying that the prices will go down but by how much? Even if they go down, how much can they go down? From 800k down to 700k? No way! It will never happen here in San Jose/Silicon Valley!
Therefore, for this reason, I keep saying I seriously doubt that anyone will step up and build a soccer stadium here. I hope I'm wrong but I can't foresee it!

[falvo]

Doesn't anyone have a clue if the team is staying or leaving?

[joebloe888]

The AEG/HSG "contraction plan" is 75% complete:

The Wizards didn't make the playoffs so they are all but toast.

The Quakes are 90 minutes away from oblivion, down 3-1 so far to the Galaxy.

[falvo]

The Quakes played yesterday like a lower divison team in Europe who is on the verge of being promoted to higher division only to throw the game becuase they know they can't afford the top flight!
This is how they played. They say this league is supposed to be played on even level and even though they have one owner owning more than one team , and if there is competition its supposed to be on the pitch, however, the way all the favorites seem to win when they aren't supposed to almost seems like there is game fixing going on. One would think so.

[Brownswan]

What has he really ever done to prove himself other than winning a co-ncaa with Santa Clara u in 1990?


Winner US Cup 1995 -- beating Mexico 4-0

4th Place Copa America, 1995 -- beating Argentina and Mexico along the way.

The only time we ever got a point out of Azteca was under Sampson: 0-0 in a 1997 WC qualifier.

The only time we've beaten Brazil: 1-0 in US Cup '97 (I believe). Preki scored; Keller was in goal.

He has guided teams through some notable events, much to their credit and his.

-- not much, but what there is is choice.

[joebloe888]

The AEG/HSG "contraction plan" is now 100% complete.

The Wiz and the Quaks are both toast.

[joebloe888]

Neither the Wiz nor the Quaks are selling season tickets for 2006.

Relocation or contraction is coming, whether you like it or not.