Buffy thread (back from the dead) [R]

[Aimer, Northend Diva]

Like our chosen one...this thread has crawled its way out of it's own grave. It's been drowned by the Master and revived to slay again. A quick recap....

-Willow is still a witch, but she's not Darth Rosenberg
-Sunnydale High is open for hellmouth business again and Buffy is working at the school as a counselor
-Something is up with that principal
-Spike has a soul and is crazy.
-Anya is no longer a demon
-Jonathan is dead and Andrew did it.
-Slayers-in-Training are getting off'd left and right....Watchers too.
-speaking of that....the council's headquarters has been blown up
-Giles might be dead.

[Cweedchop]

Unfortunately I got a look at this weeks new ep and Giles is not dead, as most of us knew anyway..

[Aimer, Northend Diva]

are you sure about that? did he touch anyone or anything? If he didn't, he could still be dead and what you're seeing is just a manifestation of The First. Much like Warren with the geeks.

BTW, did you get my PM?

[NotAbbott]

I'm willing to bet Giles survived. My guess is he's still got the protection of the coven from his battle with Willow, 'cause that axe was *really* close to his head.

Later,
COZ

[Cweedchop]

Honestly, is there any way this show can be any better?

"Hush" just became my 2nd All-time favorite BTVS episode after tonight, and folks, it's only going to get better..

Ubervamp doesn't look like much physically but he basically beat the crap out of Buffy.. UV obviously has better moves than his lame vamp counterparts and the whole not dying while being staked in the heart is a definite plus for his side...


I still don't know where I fall on the whole Principal Wood issue.. Gotta love that little smirk of his after telling Buffy that some people aren't who they appear to be..

Is he good? Is he bad? Who the Hell knows?

Buffy's speech at the end was awe inspiring, though I find it very difficult to think of a way to actually beat The First Evil, much less his creepy Ubervamp..

Who wants to put a Ben Franklin on the fact that Dawn being the Key will play a major role when all this gets hammered out? It would make sense seeing that Dawn has been a non-factor thus far in season 7.. Then again, if nothing comes of it, I wouldn't be too shocked either..


Great, great episode.. I can't believe they are actually contemplating ending the show after this season..

Mine as well go out on a high note rather than be cancelled midseason....

[B1]

That was probably my favorite Buffy ever. They better not crap out and kill the ubervamp in some cheap way. He gave Buffy the worst beatdown she's had. I'm not sure why he didn't kill her though.

I think you're right about Dawn being the key coming into play at some point.

I'm still not convinced that Giles isn't dead. They never explained how he escaped getting his head whacked off. He also explained that the "ghosts" are only of people that have died. So maybe he's one. He could be manipulating the slayers in traing as well as the rest of the gang in some yet as known way.

This episode also has the bext innuendo ever. When Willow was trying to set up the sleeping arangements for the slayers in trainging, and the one girl kept nixing everything. Willow finally asks if she wants to do it, and she says yes. Then in a very suggestive way she tells Willow that she better not hog the covers. This gets Willow all flustered, and Dawn comes around the corner form the kitchen and asks "does she want to eat...?" Willow expression was priceless.

[Cweedchop]

Originally posted by B1

This episode also has the bext innuendo ever. When Willow was trying to set up the sleeping arangements for the slayers in trainging, and the one girl kept nixing everything. Willow finally asks if she wants to do it, and she says yes. Then in a very suggestive way she tells Willow that she better not hog the covers. This gets Willow all flustered, and Dawn comes around the corner form the kitchen and asks "does she want to eat...?" Willow expression was priceless.


The genius of the entire series is based in some small way on innuendo..

In every episode there always seems to be some underlying current of sexual tension, or recall of past events or whatever..

This in my opinion is what seperates it from other shows on television..

Newbies to BTVS wouldn't even contemplate on guessing half of the inside jokes or references that are constantly being made on each episode..

You have to be a dork like me and watch all the episodes from begining to end on the FX Network to catch the real flavor of the series..

Believe it or not, this time last year I was watching BTVS for the first time and now it is simply the best show ever made on TV in my opinion...

[Aimer, Northend Diva]

Anyone else seeing The First trying to go after Willow when it's done playing with Spike?

I told you that Nicholas Brendan been hitting the gym more....again! me-freakin-ow. God.....those arms! sheeeeeet!

Terminator anyone? that factory scene.

glad to see Juliet Landau back....even if it's not REALLY Dru.

I'm going with Giles not being dead.

[NER_MCFC]

Entertaining as hell, but I found myself with a bunch of questions after.

--Either Giles is dead or there was a major league cop-out about that axe. Given Whedon's history, I think a cop-out is less likely. I can't remember; did he touch anybody?
--Why did the Uber Vamp stop in the 2nd fight? It's not sun up, and there's no indication that anybody else was coming around or that TFE had other things for him to do.
--The bit where Willow's spell goes bad is more than slightly confusing. If TFE could do that, why have psychic dead poet girl tell Willow not to use magic?
--Either the principle is dead or there's a bunch of information we don't have that would be necessary to explain why he occasionally does TFE's bidding.

They're out on the ragged edge where a really great and dangerous villain turns into one that can't possibly be defeated within the logic of the story. I'm really annoyed that it will be at least 3 weeks before we get another new installment.

[John_Harkes_6]

My takes

- Giles is dead. Ya think he would have mentioned that they had even come after him if he had survived

- I think the principal is on the good side. Not sure who or what he is but I think he is going to come out as a good guy.

Oh yeah - while Buffy has gotten better this year I still don't think it holds a candle to 24. 24 was ten times better than Buffy last night and Buffy was pretty damn good.

[B1]

Originally posted by NER_MCFC
Entertaining as hell, but I found myself with a bunch of questions after.

--Either Giles is dead or there was a major league cop-out about that axe. Given Whedon's history, I think a cop-out is less likely. I can't remember; did he touch anybody?
--Why did the Uber Vamp stop in the 2nd fight? It's not sun up, and there's no indication that anybody else was coming around or that TFE had other things for him to do.
--The bit where Willow's spell goes bad is more than slightly confusing. If TFE could do that, why have psychic dead poet girl tell Willow not to use magic?
--Either the principle is dead or there's a bunch of information we don't have that would be necessary to explain why he occasionally does TFE's bidding.





Not only didn't Giles touch anyone, I don't remeber him even picking any object up. He didn't knock at the door either, Buffy just opened it and he was there.

I also question why the ubervamp stopped. Although immediately after they found Buffy, the shot cut to The First/Drusilla telling Spike the only reason he's alive is because she wanted it that way. I took it to mean the same as to why Buffy was alive.

As for Willow's magic going awry and all that. No answer on my part.

I think the Principle will turn out to be Council Member or Watcher or something. Definately on the good side. At least that's my feeling.

[NotAbbott]

I'm coming around on Giles as well. Now I think he's dead. I ALSO think that the ghost of Buffy's mom is really her, and is really trying to help. Both of those somehow relate to Buffy and sleep deprivation.

Later,
COZ

[Aimer, Northend Diva]

Originally posted by NER_MCFC

--Either Giles is dead or there was a major league cop-out about that axe. Given Whedon's history, I think a cop-out is less likely. I can't remember; did he touch anybody?
--Why did the Uber Vamp stop in the 2nd fight? It's not sun up, and there's no indication that anybody else was coming around or that TFE had other things for him to do.
--The bit where Willow's spell goes bad is more than slightly confusing. If TFE could do that, why have psychic dead poet girl tell Willow not to use magic?
--Either the principle is dead or there's a bunch of information we don't have that would be necessary to explain why he occasionally does TFE's bidding.



-no major-league cop out with Giles...he could've had a protection spell from the Coven. Never underestimate the power of The Ripper. No, he didn't touch anything....but who knows. I'm going to be mega pissed if he's dead though.
-Maybe he thought Buffy was definitely dead when the wall fell on her.
-mind games, my dear, reverse psychology
-I'm thinking Principal is a watcher or some thing along those lines.

[Cweedchop]

Just giving this thread a little nudge towards the top cause the new episodes are ready to roll on Tuesday night...

Is Principal Wood a baddie or good guy?

Is Giles really dead?

Is Willow gonna get a new love interest?

Will Dawn being the Key have a big part before it all ends?

When will Faith make her return?


All will be answered soon I hope....

[Ceebs]

I think Giles is dead, given the facts that:

1. Last we saw him, he was about to be liberated of his head.
2. The First can only take the form of the dead.
3. Giles (like The First playing at Ghost Joyce) encouraged Buffy to just get some rest, and not push herself so hard.
4. After Buffy's fight with the Ubervamp underground, he blocked out the just-rising sun that would have otherwise dusted the Ubervamp.

But it could be classic misdirection.

Either way, this crap had better start making sense soon.

[Aimer, Northend Diva]

Originally posted by Cweedchop

Is Principal Wood a baddie or good guy?

Is Giles really dead?

Is Willow gonna get a new love interest?

Will Dawn being the Key have a big part before it all ends?

When will Faith make her return?


All will be answered soon I hope....

1. good....I'm telling you Watcher influence
2. no, can you imagine the backlash. it would be worse than Tara last year.
3. yes, i'd bet on it
4. who knows, but remember, she was made from Buffy.
5. last 5 eps. First she'll be on Angel in Feb. (someone bump that thread while you're at it)

[NotAbbott]

Originally posted by Ceebs
I think Giles is dead, given the facts that:

3. Giles (like The First playing at Ghost Joyce) encouraged Buffy to just get some rest, and not push herself so hard.
4. After Buffy's fight with the Ubervamp underground, he blocked out the just-rising sun that would have otherwise dusted the Ubervamp.


First (no pun intended, really), I think Giles and Joyce encouraging Buffy to rest has massive significance, and I don't think it's an evil trap. Not all ghosts have to be bad.

Second, #4 actually is the best evidence I've seen so far that he's NOT dead. What with being able to actually block the sun and all.

Wow. TV is all new again. Weird.

Later,
COZ

[Cweedchop]

A juicy little nugget from E!Online...

Buffy and Principal Wood go out on a date later this season..

You know what they say - "Once you go -------"

You know the rest..


I sort of sensed a little attraction between the two....

[Cweedchop]

More nuggets for Tuesday's episode..

A new SIT is coming on board - her name is Rona..

Also, Kennedy steps up her pursuit of Willow..

That's all for now....


P.S. - on a side note, has anyone else bothered to notice how incredibly beautiful Willow has become over the years? She was always in that "cutesy" category but has now become a full fledged beautiful woman..

I really didn't like her with short hair at all, a little too butch for me, but with her hair growing out and her earthy type of look (not much if any makeup - which by the way is damn sexy) she has rocketed past SMG in my opinion for overall beauty..

Just my .02...

[Aimer, Northend Diva]

Alyson is a sweetheart and outshines SMG offscreen as well.

I predict she'll be the bigger star post-Buffy.