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guignol
12 Sep 2005, 07:17 AM
beside the fred thread there's nothing here about the ASM match. we probably won't get enough traffic to merit a separate thread for each match, but now that OL Café isn't where everything happens, we need at least one thread like this.
i'll start with some impressions of the ASM match other than what's already in the fred thred (fread thread?)
tiago: tantalizing. what i saw looked classy, but there wasn't that much of it. he'll need to bring more volume to his game to make us forget essien.
govou: sizzling. i've never seen him play that well. a greyhound going up the field, a bulldog when he got the scent of the goal.
ben arfa:dazzling. with OL's heavy schedule, he'll get enough matches to come into his own this year, and if they're like this one it will be sweet to watch. the center to fred was surgical, and he set it all up himself. what's more, he ran down gigliotti once in the second half and showed that all the snot's out of his nose forever.
piccirillo: ASM can feel they got some bad breaks from the referee, he really was poor. but really, if they had got the penalty and the point it would have been robbery. they were outplayed the whole match fair and square.
champagne:OL put on the top hat and tails for this one. a festival. berthod-ben arfa-berthod-govou-juninho-berthod-govou-ben arfa was that close to being one of the prettiest goals i've seen in my life.
http://www.channel4.com/sport/french_football/l1s0506/lyo-mon.html
fishbiproduct
12 Sep 2005, 07:42 AM
ASM can feel they got some bad breaks from the referee, he really was poor. but really, if they had got the penalty and the point it would have been robbery. they were outplayed the whole match fair and square.
On the whole, I agree with you, but...I wasn't exactly
impressed by Diarra's "I've fallen and I can't get up"
act on Kapo's second yellow/ red card.
Honestly, I'd rather not see this...
SportBoy333
12 Sep 2005, 07:48 AM
I'm assuming that Ben Arfa played the whole match because Juninho and Malouda were on national team duty that week so they got some rest. Same thing with Carew and Wiltord not playing and Frau getting in instead.
guignol
12 Sep 2005, 07:58 AM
On the whole, I agree with you, but...I wasn't exactly
impressed by Diarra's "I've fallen and I can't get up" act on Kapo's second yellow/ red card. Honestly, I'd rather not see this...it was at the complete other end, but i believe what i've heard, that diarra simulated. i'm not pleased either...
on the other hand, kapo's first card could have been red from the get-go, he really hurt cris.
the kicker is that piccirillo didn't see any of it; the first biscotte came out well after the foul (which he hadn't called) on the line judge's advice.
fishbiproduct
12 Sep 2005, 08:03 AM
I'm assuming that Ben Arfa played the whole match because Juninho and Malouda were on national team duty that week so they got some rest. Same thing with Carew and Wiltord not playing and Frau getting in instead.
:confused:
Ben Arfa is a striker, so he probably started because
Carew/Wiltord were on NT duty, yes
Juninho started and was sub'ed at mid. second
half by Malouda.
guignol
12 Sep 2005, 08:16 AM
:confused:
Ben Arfa is a striker... ben arfa is on the roster as a striker, but for players like him, malouda or govou it's kind of academic... on OL's roster malouda is a midfielder and govou a striker; when they're listed on the NT... it's the opposite!
ben arfa filled malouda's spot in the scheme saturday. when malouda came in he moved back a notch but stayed on the left.
SportBoy333
12 Sep 2005, 08:32 AM
Ben Arfa doesnt play striker for the team. Fred, Carew, Wiltrod, and Frau are the 4 strikers.
sl7vk
12 Sep 2005, 09:28 AM
I have seen Ben Arfa play striker for Lyon, and that is where he plays for the U-21's.
guignol
12 Sep 2005, 09:59 AM
don't fight boys! hatem ben arfa is a dessert topping and a floor wax!
fishbiproduct
12 Sep 2005, 10:03 AM
don't fight boys! hatem ben arfa is a dessert topping and a floor wax!
Yeahhh!!!! Wooo Wooo!!!!!
Is there ANYTHING he cannot do??
:D
lefutur
12 Sep 2005, 05:08 PM
How's everyone feeling about the Real Madrid clash???
guignol
13 Sep 2005, 02:40 AM
How's everyone feeling about the Real Madrid clash???you can read my answer in the OL-real thread ;)
Looper121
17 Sep 2005, 08:38 PM
Damn, didn't expect that result...Shoulda had 3.
guignol
20 Sep 2005, 06:46 AM
no one's talked about the bordeaux match so far, which is easy to understand.
coming out of it with the point you can chalk up to a "winning attitude" (la culture de la gagne), but houllier's freudian slip about "bordeaux's victory" said it all. one has to admit bordeaux got robbed.
one bright spot for me is that wiltord got the goal, and it was a well earned one.
sl7vk
20 Sep 2005, 09:16 AM
I don't understand why Houllier doesn't start Fred and Carew together.
lefutur
20 Sep 2005, 10:03 AM
no one's talked about the bordeaux match so far, which is easy to understand.
coming out of it with the point you can chalk up to a "winning attitude" (la culture de la gagne), but houllier's freudian slip about "bordeaux's victory" said it all. one has to admit bordeaux got robbed.
one bright spot for me is that wiltord got the goal, and it was a well earned one.
yeah what happened with the penalty dispute?
and did Lyon play poorly or did Bordeaux play well?
lefutur
20 Sep 2005, 10:04 AM
I don't understand why Houllier doesn't start Fred and Carew together.
a 4-4-2?
sl7vk
20 Sep 2005, 11:11 AM
-------------------Diarra
Wiltord/Govou--------------------Malouda
-------------------Juninho
-----------Fred-------------Carew
lefutur
20 Sep 2005, 02:44 PM
i think that could work well. is that a 4-1-2-1-2 or a 4-3-3?
Lens on thursday right? what's their formation like?
sl7vk
20 Sep 2005, 02:54 PM
i think that could work well. is that a 4-1-2-1-2 or a 4-3-3?
Lens on thursday right? what's their formation like?
I would call it a 4-1-2-1-2......
Unfortunatly Lyon pursued GH instead of my CV when I applied for the manager post.