Battrick thread, Part IV

[NoodlesMacintosh]

Any newbies on here who want to post the stats of the younger players I am sure there are plenty of us willing to give advice on the training they need.

I've got a 17-year-old and two 19-year-olds.

Leighton Bacon - 17 yo, BT Rating=3,773
LH Batsman, LM Bowler, respectable form, Healthy
A steady player with competent leadership skills and worthless experience.
Stamina: respectable Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: worthless Concentration: abysmal
Bowling: abysmal Consistency: competent
Fielding: mediocre



Phillip Fowler - 19 yo, BT Rating=4,608
LH Batsman, LH Spin Bowler, respectable form, Healthy
A defensive player with worthless leadership skills and worthless experience.
Stamina: respectable Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: abysmal Concentration: woeful
Bowling: feeble Consistency: competent
Fielding: feeble



Steven Lever - 19 yo, BT Rating=3,586
RH Batsman, RH Spin Bowler, respectable form, Healthy
A cautious player with competent leadership skills and worthless experience.
Stamina: feeble Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: competent Concentration: abysmal
Bowling: abysmal Consistency: competent
Fielding: feeble

[quentinc]

ok i got my team so i got a coupler of questions, well firsdt i see that i lost all three games but only by a 1-5 run margin orat least from my knowledge of cricket thats what it appears so im not going to buy or spend any money at the moment (since i only have 200.000), but trainning doesnt train a specific area, if so where do i change it, (i went to nets and i click on trainning sessions and it said set.) second on orders it says b1,b2 ect, what is that.? and how many coaches respectivley shold i get.
Just because you lost by 1-5 runs doesn't mean it was that close. If the winning team batted second, look to see how many overs they had to reach that total.

[kopiteinkc]

I've got a 17-year-old and two 19-year-olds.

Leighton Bacon - 17 yo, BT Rating=3,773
LH Batsman, LM Bowler, respectable form, Healthy
A steady player with competent leadership skills and worthless experience.
Stamina: respectable Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: worthless Concentration: abysmal
Bowling: abysmal Consistency: competent
Fielding: mediocre



Worthless, fire him.


Phillip Fowler - 19 yo, BT Rating=4,608
LH Batsman, LH Spin Bowler, respectable form, Healthy
A defensive player with worthless leadership skills and worthless experience.
Stamina: respectable Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: abysmal Concentration: woeful
Bowling: feeble Consistency: competent
Fielding: feeble

You might want to consider giving him bowling training. Once he gets to mediocre/competent he might be a useful player. But he is 19.


Steven Lever - 19 yo, BT Rating=3,586
RH Batsman, RH Spin Bowler, respectable form, Healthy
A cautious player with competent leadership skills and worthless experience.
Stamina: feeble Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: competent Concentration: abysmal
Bowling: abysmal Consistency: competent
Fielding: feeble

Batting training plus fielding training for this guy. That will increase the rate of his concentration quicker and he needs it!! But he could be quite a prospect.

[Craig P]

When you get a training pop and it says to fill in the "total at last pop" Should I put the skill level he just popped to or the level he was before he popped?
Hmm. I don't know, I don't really use the training tab.

[Bluto11]

agree with kopite on all training accounts

[elciclon]

Brad Court - 18 yo, BT Rating=3,511
LH Batsman, LFM Bowler, respectable form, Healthy
A defensive player with respectable leadership skills and worthless experience.
Stamina: woeful Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: competent Concentration: feeble
Bowling: woeful Consistency: mediocre
Fielding: feeble

Karl Fox - 19 yo, BT Rating=4,979
LH Batsman, LH Spin Bowler, respectable form, Healthy
A defensive player with competent leadership skills and worthless experience.
Stamina: woeful Wicket Keeping: feeble
Batting: competent Concentration: mediocre
Bowling: abysmal Consistency: mediocre
Fielding: mediocre
Everton Ritchie - 18 yo, BT Rating=2,167
LH Batsman, LFM Bowler, respectable form, Healthy
A cautious player with mediocre leadership skills and worthless experience.
Stamina: feeble Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: mediocre Concentration: feeble
Bowling: abysmal Consistency: feeble
Fielding: abysmal


Pat Small - 19 yo, BT Rating=3,477
RH Batsman, RH Spin Bowler, respectable form, Healthy
A destructive player with respectable leadership skills and worthless experience.
Stamina: feeble Wicket Keeping: mediocre
Batting: abysmal Concentration: feeble
Bowling: abysmal Consistency: abysmal
Fielding: competent
not much. anyways let's say that i train 5 batting should i get morethan 5 coaches or just the five does it change anything.

[kopiteinkc]

Brad Court - 18 yo, BT Rating=3,511
LH Batsman, LFM Bowler, respectable form, Healthy
A defensive player with respectable leadership skills and worthless experience.
Stamina: woeful Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: competent Concentration: feeble
Bowling: woeful Consistency: mediocre
Fielding: feeble

Karl Fox - 19 yo, BT Rating=4,979
LH Batsman, LH Spin Bowler, respectable form, Healthy
A defensive player with competent leadership skills and worthless experience.
Stamina: woeful Wicket Keeping: feeble
Batting: competent Concentration: mediocre
Bowling: abysmal Consistency: mediocre
Fielding: mediocre
Everton Ritchie - 18 yo, BT Rating=2,167
LH Batsman, LFM Bowler, respectable form, Healthy
A cautious player with mediocre leadership skills and worthless experience.
Stamina: feeble Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: mediocre Concentration: feeble
Bowling: abysmal Consistency: feeble
Fielding: abysmal


Pat Small - 19 yo, BT Rating=3,477
RH Batsman, RH Spin Bowler, respectable form, Healthy
A destructive player with respectable leadership skills and worthless experience.
Stamina: feeble Wicket Keeping: mediocre
Batting: abysmal Concentration: feeble
Bowling: abysmal Consistency: abysmal
Fielding: competent
not much. anyways let's say that i train 5 batting should i get morethan 5 coaches or just the five does it change anything.

Batting training for the first three, either fire or w/k training for the last one, I am leaning to fire as pure w/keepers go for pennies.

[johno]

in battrick you train one discipline per coach, per player... in other words..

u can train trainee a in batting w/ say 4 batting coaches and if you wanted to, 4 bowling coaches as well... however u'll have just 2 coaches left to assign...

you've got 2 ways to play it... train up 1 or 2 really super players or train up a bunch of trainees gradually. Basically method one you get 2 players who are multi talented and you use all your coaching spots on them. In method 2, you train specialists... ie, you give 3 batsmen some a batting coach or two each and you give some bowlers a bowling coach or two each.

[kopiteinkc]

Latest training times from the Jumpers for Wickets site:

All are estimates:
For a 17y/o Bowling or Batting training

1 coach - 11/12 weeks?
2 coaches - around 7 weeks?
3 coaches - around 5 weeks?


Provisional times for fielding training:

17yo, one coach, 4/5 weeks.
18yo, one coach, 5/6 weeks.
19yo, one coach, 6/7 weeks.

Initial figures for stamina training times with one coach are:

17yo - 2/3 weeks (although 17yos taking 4 weeks have been known)
18yo - 3/4 weeks
19yo - 4/5 weeks
20yo - 5/6 weeks

With 2 coaches
17yo - 1/2 weeks


Wicketkeeping
17yo 7 weeks with 1 coach, 3/4 weeks with 2 coaches.

And then the complicated one --- concentration and consistency:


These skills are not trained "directly", but are a by-product of other training types when combined with sports psychologists. The psychologists are not assigned to individual players, they have an effect on all of the training sessions except stamina training. Therefore a lot more variation is possible, but these are some very rough figures to give you an idea.

Fielding Training:
With 1 Fielding Coach and 3 sports psychs, consistency and concentration increase in around 4-5 weeks.

With 1 Fielding Coach and 5 sports psychs, consistency and concentration increase in around 3-4 weeks.

Fielding + Batting Training:
1 Fielding and 1 Batting coach, 3 sports psychs, concentration increase in around 3 weeks, consistency in 4-5 weeks.

1 Fielding and 1 Batting coach, 5 sports psychs, concentration increase in around 2 weeks, consistency in 3-4 weeks.

Fielding + Bowling Training:
1 Fielding and 1 Bowling coach, 3 sports psychs, concentration increase in around 4-5 weeks, consistency increase in around 3 weeks.

1 Fielding and 1 Bowling coach, 5 sports psychs, concentration increase in around 3-5 weeks, consistency increase in around 2 weeks.

Batting Training:
1 Coach, numbers still vague, figures of around 8 weeks for concentration have been mentioned, no reliable info on numbers of sports psychs involved. Consistency, little or no effect from batting training alone, don't hold your breath.

BowlingTraining:
1 Coach, numbers still vague, figures of around 8 weeks for consistency have been mentioned, no reliable info on number of sports psychs involved.
Concentration, little or no effect from bowling training alone, if you walk to the moon and back that might be quicker for all we know.

Wicket Keeper Training:
Similar effect to fielding training.

[elciclon]

by tw coaches you mean spots right if i put a player for batting traiinning twice in one week he'll grow faster, but what about getting like if you train 5 spots of something getting ten coaches does it help or not? also how many times do i have to set the trainning stuff.

[kopiteinkc]

by tw coaches you mean spots right if i put a player for batting traiinning twice in one week he'll grow faster, but what about getting like if you train 5 spots of something getting ten coaches does it help or not? also how many times do i have to set the trainning stuff.

I am not sure I understand your brand of English ;)

You probably do want 10 coaches in total. If you want to train one guy twice in batting, then you have to assign two of your ten slots to a batting coach and train the same guy in each slot.

That leaves you with 8 slots left. Understand?

I expect a lot of rep for this invaluable advice ;)

[johno]

don't think of it as hiring coaches... think of it as renting time in the practice nets...

for every session that you rent, you should assign a player to that session, the more sessions a player gets, the faster he improves. due to limited facilities, you cannot schedule more than 10 sessions... however you can schedule no sessions at all if you don't want to. Each session, is either batting, w'keeping, bowling, stamina or fielding.

[elciclon]

i got it now, what i was trying to say is like if i get 20 coaches ofor batting does it make the tranning go faster or does it not make a difference.

[kopiteinkc]

i got it now, what i was trying to say is like if i get 20 coaches ofor batting does it make the tranning go faster or does it not make a difference.

20???? The max you can get is 10.

If you get 2 (is that what you meant?) and put them both on one player it speeds his training -- but of course it takes 2 of your 10 slots.

If you have two and put them on different players they do not go any faster.

[elciclon]

i got it now so lets stoip confusing each other.

[kopiteinkc]

Ok, those that are interested in getting this sub-forum done -- see Huss' response here:

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=255830

We need at least 10 regular posters. I thought we had that many, so speak up if you have been quiet so far.

[Bluto11]

Ok, those that are interested in getting this sub-forum done -- see Huss' response here:

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=255830

We need at least 10 regular posters. I thought we had that many, so speak up if you have been quiet so far.
we've got five so far.

there are more then 10 that post in these threads, so i think we're good, they just need to speak up

[elciclon]

i just posted saying im a regular poster, simple and easy, if only women were this way.

[quentinc]

Off topic, but, Bluto, good luck in the series...may the best team win:)

[romagol10]

we've got five so far.

there are more then 10 that post in these threads, so i think we're good, they just need to speak up
Done. Having one thread for this game is not enough and we really can't be filling up the HT forum with BT stuff.