possible groups for WC06

[MannyJello]

here is just some wild speculation...feel free to correct me as necessary...i'm not an expert on the seeding principles, etc.

Group A
Netherlands
Poland
Japan
Togo

Group B
Germany
Croatia
Iran
Paraguay

Group C
Italia
USA
Sweden
Morocco

Group D
Czech
England
Ghana
Costa Rica

Group E
Argentina
Ukraine
Turkey
Guatamala

Group F
Brazil
Switz
Mexico
Nigeria

Group G
France
Serbia
Ecuador
Saudis

Group H
Portugal
Cameroon
Korea
Columbia

[MassachusettsRef]

If those 32 teams make it to the World Cup, Portugal and Czech Republic won't be seeds and England and Mexico will (unless, of course, FIFA changes their procedures). So if you just swap positions for the Czechs and English, and then switch the Mexicans with the Koreans (and make the Mexicans the seed), you have 8 viable groups.

Also, because as this thread grows, it's more and more likely that someone will get bent out of shape and make the correction, I'll just do it right at the beginning: "Columbia" is the school. "Colombia" is a the country.

[roarksown1]

Group F = Group of death

[MassachusettsRef]

Group F = Group of deathAlso impossible, because Mexico and Brazil can't (if policy holds) be drawn together. If you make the changes I suggested, then Group B or Group H becomes the group of death. All in all, it would not be a kind draw for the home team.

[scorpio81]

i think group c would be the toughest

[Sky]

I have a qestion. Which day of December is the draw? And is it being aired on any of the sports channels here in US?

[Jay510]

lets talk about what the worst groups could be

to me Germany would be the weakest seeded team just by looking, i dont know how good they will be in 2006 but for now just hang with me here

Germany
Switzerland
Angola
Guatemala

ugh!

or if you prefer

Germany
Togo
slovakia
T&T

im just spitballing right now, but you understand my point in 2002 Japan, Tunisia, Belgium and Russia were in a group...

[MannyJello]

"Columbia" is the school. "Colombia" is a the country.

thanks, Ref -- my bad!

i'll have to do some more research into the seeding principles (not principals) and then give it another shot...certainly will get easier once the field is closer to 32. after i posted this, i saw some other threads that related to seeding, so i will check those out.

[scaryice]

to me Germany would be the weakest seeded team just by looking, i dont know how good they will be in 2006 but for now just hang with me here.

Weakest seeds will be Spain and Mexico. Germany is not a great team, but home field advantage counts for a lot.

I think the toughest and weakest possible groups are as follows:

Brazil
Netherlands
Portugal
USA

Mexico
Poland (or Slovakia/Slovenia/Switzerland, etc.)
Togo
Saudi Arabia

[European16]

B looks tough...

[Colm]

If we England were offered that group i'd take it :cool:

[primusux]

I have a qestion. Which day of December is the draw? And is it being aired on any of the sports channels here in US?



December 9th if I'm not mistaken...

[hanul21]

here is just some wild speculation...feel free to correct me as necessary...i'm not an expert on the seeding principles, etc.

Group A
Netherlands
Poland
Japan
Togo

Group B
Germany
Croatia
Iran
Paraguay

Group C
Italia
USA
Sweden
Morocco

Group D
Czech
England
Ghana
Costa Rica

Group E
Argentina
Ukraine
Turkey
Guatamala

Group F
Brazil
Switz
Mexico
Nigeria

Group G
France
Serbia
Ecuador
Saudis

Group H
Portugal
Cameroon
Korea
Columbia
wow id love to have another rematch with Portugal

[IASocFan]

Germany will be A1!

[Autogolazo]

Mexico is going to be seeded, and Portugal won't be.

Group H is an impossibility. Every group headed by a Euro team will have at least one other Euro team in it.

[midknight]

here is just some wild speculation...feel free to correct me as necessary...i'm not an expert on the seeding principles, etc.

Group A
Netherlands
Poland
Japan
Togo

Group B
Germany
Croatia
Iran
Paraguay

Group C
Italia
USA
Sweden
Morocco

Group D
Czech
England
Ghana
Costa Rica

Group E
Argentina
Ukraine
Turkey
Guatamala

Group F
Brazil
Switz
Mexico
Nigeria

Group G
France
Serbia
Ecuador
Saudis

Group H
Portugal
Cameroon
Korea
Columbia

Sorry, but this is just downright ridiculous. Posting possible groups when we don't even know the qualifiers is pardonnable, posting possible groups when you're not sure that the same draw procedure would be used is forgiveable, but posting groups when you don't HAVE a draw procedure is downright out. Please do the research people. Between now and the time the draw is announced every person who knows what a soccer ball looks like is going to be fabricating imaginary groups of deaths for their worst enemies and easy passages for the favourite teams.
I know the euphoria and the anticipation is killing us all...but please

PS If there is ANY way FIFA can justify seeding both the Czechs and Portugal in this same world cup and still keep the other seeds mentioned :eek: I'll assume they already have their winner programmed...and never watch another world cup again

[Borruma]

Brazil
Netherlands
Portugal
USA

Actually I'd prefer Portugal to the Czechs but each to his own.

Though all depends on whether CONCACAF nations are peared with African countries like in the last two world cup draws or with the Asian ones this time around (I hope so). Remember one pot will have to have seven teams in it.

[SectionX]

I would love to see my Sweden togheter with the US. It would give Sweden a lot of attention on this board.

[Sagy]

Weakest seeds will be Spain and Mexico. Germany is not a great team, but home field advantage counts for a lot.

I think the toughest and weakest possible groups are as follows:

Brazil
Netherlands
Portugal
USA
If you replace Portugal with Czech Republic and if USA moves ahead of Mexico to #5, this group will have 4 of the 5 top teams in the FIFA ranking :eek:.

Mexico
Poland (or Slovakia/Slovenia/Switzerland, etc.)
Togo
Saudi Arabia
Considering the way Spain is playing, they might be weaker than Mexico.

We can still have a group of:
Spain (Seed)
Bosnia/Scotland (UEFA)
Venezuela/Australia/Uzbekistan (AFC+OFC+CONMEBOL)
Congo DR/Trinidad and Tobago (CAF+CONCACAF)

All these teams still have a way to go before they are in. The teams you used are either in, or have the inside track.

[Ombak]

People should at least be familiar with the likely seeds and preferably with the way the last two draws were made! That would make for some sensible mock draws.

Here's mine.

I assume that the seeds will be Germany (A1), Brazil (F1), Argentina, England, France, Holland, Italy, Mexico because I predicted Spain would not qualify.

Aside from the 10 already qualified sides, I consider Italy, Holland, Portugal, Sweden, England, Croatia, Poland, France, Ecuador, Paraguay and Ghana as in barring a collapse, Angola, Togo, Serbia, Costa Rica probably in and Colombia, Tunisia, Guatemala and Cote d'Ivoire as my predictions for the other four spots. That leaves the playoffs in Europe for the last three teams. I added Czech Republic, Turkey and Ireland from the playoffs.

I drew all seeded teams, then the 9 Euro teams (the 9th one drawn must not be placed in a group with a Euro seed - to avoid 3 Euros in one group).

I paired CONMEBOL with CAF and AFC with CONCACAF and had to avoid drawing CONMEBOL teams into ARG and BRA's groups and CONCACAF teams into MEX's group.

Group A: Germany, Croatia, Cote d'Ivoire, Costa Rica
Group B: England, Czech Republic, Colombia, Japan
Group C: Argentina, Turkey, Portugal, Angola
Group D: Mexico, Poland, Tunisia, Iran
Group E: Italy, Ireland, Ghana, USA
Group F: Brazil, Ukraine, Togo, Saudi Arabia (I swear I didn't rig this!)
Group G: Holland, Serbia, Ecuador, Ghana
Group H: France, Sweden, Paraguay, South Korea

since my class was particularly boring, I decided to do another draw, same procedures:

Group A: Germany, Czech Republic, Cote d'Ivoire, Costa Rica
Group B: Mexico, Poland, Serbia, Ghana
Group C: England, Ukraine, Saudi Arabia, Colombia
Group D: Italy, Croatia, USA, Tunisia
Group E: Argentina, Sweden, Guatemala, Togo
Group F: Brazil, Turkey, Japan, Angola
Group G: France, Ireland, Iran, Ecuador
Group H: Holland, Portugal, South Korea, Paraguay