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jcmartins
06 Sep 2005, 07:37 PM
Can he become the best in the world? let's see why he's even considered, shall we?

First off he is an excellent ball maintainer and surprises (not as much as he used to) every defensive side with his skills.

By looks one could never tell those legs had such agility, and with a body in the form of a bull, he dances through international defenses as if playing in the streets with other kids. His runs and jumps leaves every defender astounded, inside the area he defies gravity and for seconds, every now and again, it looks as if he was suspended and placed in the right place to volley an incoming ball into the net. A quality that is extremely rare within Brazilian strikers. (We did have Dada, remember, maravilha?)

Adriano comes from the hood of Vila Humilde (humble Town), a favela in Rio de Janeiro. He used to hang around Leblon beach where flamengo trained and players like Zico scouted talents. Soon he was playing for Flamengo subdivisions and not long after he was called to represent the National Team Under-17.

That was 1999 and he won that U-17 World Cup in New Zealand, and a year later he made Flamengo's first team under coach Paulo Cesar Carpegiani. He left his mark on his debut helping Flamengo beat Sao Paulo 5-2 at their own territory.

A year later he would be called again, this time by the U-21 National Team. Now he helped the Selecao win the South American Championship in Ecuador.

He had his debut in the adult NT when Leao had a spell as manager, but soon was used again in the World Cup 2001 U-20 hosted by the Argentineans. This time the Brazilian youngsters were eliminated in the quarterfinals by Ghana. Yet Adriano took home the silver boot, with six goals scored and topped only by the Argentinean Saviola - who will face our Giant this afternoon, only this time playing for the Spanish team Sevilla - .

With a consistent performance he quickly grabbed the attention of big European Clubs and soon was sold to Inter by almost 20 Million Euros. He didn't fail to debut with class by nearly scoring within the first minutes and later in the game, again, leave his trademark strong freekick.

The Emperor, then 19, was loaned to Fiorentina where even under financial difficulties that affected everyone's performances, leaving the team in fourth division, the striker left six goals for the Italians to remember. Inter then sent him to Parma for about half the price they had bought him. For some reason the Milan managers couldn't foresee the players future and only after Hector Cupper lost his job, the club took seriously the decision of bringing him back, only to find out they would now have to pay an extra 16.5 million euros. They did but not without signing a contract that secured his presence until 2008.

That season Adriano scored nine goals in 13 games, and once his old Fiorentina boss Mancini arrived in Inter Adriano had his starting spot guaranteed, it would be him and Vieri up front, always, not a choice between the two as it had been up untill that moment.

That brings us to 2004, when Adriano took his jump to the stars. With The Brazilian coach Parreira, relieving all players from the main team during the Copa America, Adriano would have his chance to stage his qualities, which he would do with complete mastery.

Luiz Fabiano was quoted as the main star in that team, but Adriano soon left him in the shadows. It all started in the game against Costa Rica where Adriano scored a hat trick as Brazil routed the Ticos 4-1 earning a quarterfinal berth in the Championship. He sealed hi participation in the tournament with a last minute goal against Argentina. His goal would take the final to a penalty shootout where he would score his and later raise the trophy and the golden boot, with seven goals.

A year later history would be repeated, this time Ronaldo asked for relief from the confederations cup. Adriano, knowing how difficult it is to gain a starting spot in the national Team, would again take Brazil to the final and raise yet again, this time with Robinho, kaka, Ronaldinho, Cicinho and Gilberto, among others, the first place trophy. He would also be considered be best player of the tournament, and as if that wasn't enough; he again took home the golden boot award, this time with five goals.

His performance in these championships took Adriano's name to places he hadn't dreamed of, soon he was considered best striker in the world. At the tender age of 23 He has a strength in his leg and a quality to bypass defenders that I haven't seen in a long time. Ronaldo did it more gracefully, Dinho does it more beautifully, Zizou shows more class. But, when asking the question of who is the best striker today, Adriano is showing, game by game, Boot winner of Copa America, boot winner of confederations cup, 3 goals in his opening match this season, 2 goals in his last match for Inter before the confederations cup and finally another three goals against Chile yesterday... that Today, he's rising too fast to judge.

He already surpassed Ronaldo's goals tally for the Selecao in Parreira's era and shows no sign of stopping. The emperor currently has 20 goals since Parreira took over the selecao in 2003; Ronaldinho gaucho comes second with 14 and only then rests Ronaldo with 11.

Text from my opinions at GiantsofBrazil.com (http://www.giantsofbrasil.com)


If he keeps up can he or can't he become the best striker in the world?

Popol Vuh
06 Sep 2005, 07:45 PM
currently, i think hes the best. ;)

Teso Dos Bichos
06 Sep 2005, 07:51 PM
If he keeps up can he or can't he become the best striker in the world?

I don't personally think so, because he is too one-footed and doesn't have the overall game of other strikers at the moment. Not saying he isn't great, but I just don't think he will be the best in the world.

celito
06 Sep 2005, 07:59 PM
I don't personally think so, because he is too one-footed and doesn't have the overall game of other strikers at the moment. Not saying he isn't great, but I just don't think he will be the best in the world.

I know they played different positions, but Maradona and Rivaldo were at one time the best in the world and they very one-footed. What matters is how many goals he scores. If he scores 40+ goals, which is very possible, I don't see why he wouldn't be considered the best striker in the world irregardless of his right foot. He has proven that he is not a tap-in-boy. He can create his own goals, finish off plays, and score in the air.

jcmartins
06 Sep 2005, 08:40 PM
He has proven that he is not a tap-in-boy. He can create his own goals, finish off plays, and score in the air.
That's where I agree with you...

SirManchester
06 Sep 2005, 09:51 PM
Yes, but only if he keeps what he does up right now, and improves on his game, and works on his faults.

lamrof
07 Sep 2005, 03:23 AM
I know they played different positions, but Maradona and Rivaldo were at one time the best in the world and they very one-footed. What matters is how many goals he scores. If he scores 40+ goals, which is very possible, I don't see why he wouldn't be considered the best striker in the world irregardless of his right foot. He has proven that he is not a tap-in-boy. He can create his own goals, finish off plays, and score in the air.

He can score in the air, that is a first for a Brazillian stirker in a long time, I am going back in time and I don't have one except Pele, who was probably the best scorer from the air in modern times.

dor02
07 Sep 2005, 08:13 AM
I don't personally think so, because he is too one-footed and doesn't have the overall game of other strikers at the moment. Not saying he isn't great, but I just don't think he will be the best in the world.How about Puskas? He was too one-footed but he is regarded as one of the greatest players of all-time.

He has proven that he is not a tap-in-boy. He can create his own goals, finish off plays, and score in the air.He has really become a very valuable asset to the Selecao and Inter. His finishing is one thing but he also has a big impact on his team's performance. The way he has been performing, Inter can say hello to the silverware.

Dark Savante
07 Sep 2005, 08:22 AM
He can score in the air, that is a first for a Brazillian stirker in a long time, I am going back in time and I don't have one except Pele, who was probably the best scorer from the air in modern times.
Jardel was the best in the air sine Pele. No other Brazilian striker comes close.

Adriano will become the best in the world when the best are on the decline in a probable 2yrs and if no supremo pops up from nowhere. He'll never be the best whilst the true maestros are about.

Thomas19
07 Sep 2005, 08:34 AM
With so many World Class Attackers on Brazil available for the world cup, How will the players line up in order to utilize all their ability?

Teso Dos Bichos
07 Sep 2005, 08:37 AM
They don't know yet.

DutchFootballRulez
07 Sep 2005, 09:11 AM
Adriano is already the best in the World. Whats missing are the accomplishments, although he's won a Copa America and Confederations Cup, he does everything you can ask for in a striker. And he's younger than most of his contemporaries.

johno
07 Sep 2005, 09:45 AM
Adriano is already the best in the World. Whats missing are the accomplishments, although he's won a Copa America and Confederations Cup, he does everything you can ask for in a striker. And he's younger than most of his contemporaries.

http://soccer-europe.com/Data/Rankings/TopStrikers.html

he's near the top, but not at the top... he's still well behind Ronaldo and Ruud and if Sheva played for a better national team he'd be behind him just on numbers alone.

I think Adriano is a world class striker, but he's not top dog and its debatable wether he'll get there.

SirManchester
07 Sep 2005, 12:20 PM
Right now, Ruud, Ronaldo,Sheva, and Makaay are all above Adriano, as they will go into decline, and since Adriano's isn't so far behind them, he will become the best striker, unless the likes of Cassano, Gilardino, Podolski,and Rooney step up their game even more and join him among the best, come to think of it, will all the talented strikers around the world now I don't think there will be a long period of time where Adriano will be considered "the best" in the world.

Jawz10
07 Sep 2005, 12:53 PM
He still has a ways to go to beat out players like Ronaldo, Vieri, and Shevchenko. All whom will be remembered long after they've finished playing.

metros11
07 Sep 2005, 12:58 PM
Having recently watched Adriano play for Inter and Brazil, I already think that he is the best striker in the world. He has size, skill, accuracy, and unbelievable power. This coming from a Sheva supporter.

jcmartins
07 Sep 2005, 12:59 PM
He still has a ways to go to beat out players like Ronaldo, Vieri, and Shevchenko. All whom will be remembered long after they've finished playing.
Absolutely, no doubt about that... But I'm not questioning if he's better than ronaldo, for example ever was, my question is, from what yall see today, can hhe be the best in the world... i personally don't think he will ever be better than Ronaldo in his prime, ever, But looking at what ronaldo is today i think he almost is...

Dark Savante
07 Sep 2005, 01:29 PM
Absolutely, no doubt about that... But I'm not questioning if he's better than ronaldo, for example ever was, my question is, from what yall see today, can hhe be the best in the world... i personally don't think he will ever be better than Ronaldo in his prime, ever, But looking at what ronaldo is today i think he almost is...
It's a sad thing to say but, Ronaldo is now at such a level that the only way we will see his 'full power' is at the WC. Unlike most other strikers it can commonly be felt/assumed that Ronaldo is not going 'all out' even in his flashes of brilliance there can be a feeling of 'he could do more if he wanted to' this isn't to say he is not trying but it goes along the lines of 'he does just enough to get by'

The debates about Ronaldo have been frequent and I always maintained that he has a purpose built 'self-containment mental barrier' put up since recovering from his last career threatening injury. You often see it in players who were close to having their career ended prematurely - they don't push their bodies to the limit anymore, they hold back until the cause would be worthy of ending a career (see World Cup) having spent almost 3years out of the game via injury, who can blame him for that? The frequent criticisms of him are pretty pointless - he still scores alot more goals than nearly anyone else, he still does the business....but the only time I feel you will see him go that extra mile is at the WC...all this foreplay is nice and all and other players take the plaudits...but come crunch time...would you put anyone ahead of a fired up and mentally ready Ronaldo?

Adriano is in that stage of his career where nothing big has gone wrong for him. He has had no serious injuries and has not been tactically restrained, questioned or pushed outside of what he does best. Shevchenko, Ruud, Makaay, Ronaldo have all experienced slumps and injuries and came back stronger for it.. Adriano's true tests haven't arisen yet so it is premature to suggest he is 'the man' until he has them and rises above them. Most certainly he has the potential to be the very best but then so do Gilardino, Podolski and a few others. Only time will tell for these guys they are fledglings in the life of a striker - which is more pressure filled than any other position. Let's see what they do when the goals don't come, when they have a slump in form...some never recover from that.

Adriano is money but people need to cut out the hype. He has the most ferocious left foot I've seen on a striker for quite some time. He can score spectacular goals (which is why people clamour like they are doing) but reality tells us he's never been the top scorer in a league campaign, not even close and he has yet to do much at club level. He cannot be called 'the best' until he does something that would establish him as such. Sometimes people forget what the guys considered the best did to get where they are...it didn't happen overnight and nor will it for Adriano.

johno
07 Sep 2005, 01:32 PM
great post man... I've got no rep tho.

SirManchester
07 Sep 2005, 01:36 PM
great post man... I've got no rep tho.

I've got him covered.