9/6/05: Back to Work

[GPK]

World Cup geopolitical lessons transcend sports-Daily Herald (http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/sportsstory.asp?id=91492)

MLS to feature Best XI election-Daily Herald (http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/sportsstory.asp?id=91487)

Feud engulfs Mexican soccer-Chicago Tribune (http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/soccer/cs-0509050147sep05,1,2258013.story?coll=cs-soccer-print)

League helping hurricane victims-Kansas City Star (http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/soccer/mls/kansas_city_wizards/12568615.htm)

Arena Still Is Miffed With Fans-LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/sports/soccer/la-sp-soccercol6sep06,1,3144855.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-soccer)

Ex-Chadwick star healthy and happy in MLS-Carson Daily Breeze (http://www.dailybreeze.com/sports/articles/1816087.html)

U.S. makes its case for top seed-Star Ledger (http://www.nj.com/metrostars/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/112598491687230.xml&coll=1)

Gooch has goods for U.S.-NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more_sports/story/343655p-293424c.html)

Their qualifications were never questioned-Boston Globe (http://www.boston.com/sports/soccer/articles/2005/09/06/their_qualifications_were_never_questioned/)

Time is now for U.S. bench to shine-Houston Chronicle (http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/soc/3340905)

With USA's berth set, Arena plans roster for Cup-USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/soccer/national/2005-09-05-arena-roster_x.htm)

[Anthony W]

>>"We have so many millions of people who claim that they love the game and that they're part of the game in this country," he said. "If that's the case, they've got to support it.<< Bruce Arena

I have a friend that watches the EPL and won't watch the MLS. What am I supposed to do, take his cat and threaten to kill it if he won't watch MLS? There is only so much we can do.

[denver_mugwamp]

>>"We have so many millions of people who claim that they love the game and that they're part of the game in this country," he said. "If that's the case, they've got to support it.<< Bruce Arena

I have a friend that watches the EPL and won't watch the MLS. What am I supposed to do, take his cat and threaten to kill it if he won't watch MLS? There is only so much we can do.

"Attend the next MLS game or Fluffy takes a dirt bath?" That might be a bit extreme. But I think it's correct for Bruce to talk up MLS. It's certainly not going to hurt anything for him to ask for more MLS support. I don't beleive Bruce was addressing his remarks to the kind of people who have DK or regularly attend games. But if it gets a few of the people who are sitting on the fence to take another look at the league, then it's a good thing.

[crewcrazy17]

"Attend the next MLS game or Fluffy takes a dirt bath?" That might be a bit extreme. But I think it's correct for Bruce to talk up MLS. It's certainly not going to hurt anything for him to ask for more MLS support. I don't beleive Bruce was addressing his remarks to the kind of people who have DK or regularly attend games. But if it gets a few of the people who are sitting on the fence to take another look at the league, then it's a good thing.
But instead of coming across as selling MLS or encouraging people to attend matches, he comes across an an arrogant pr!ck. That is not going to help the casual fan that in his mind needs to do more to support soccer.

[vmax71]

But instead of coming across as selling MLS or encouraging people to attend matches, he comes across an an arrogant pr!ck. That is not going to help the casual fan that in his mind needs to do more to support soccer.

It's this being an arrogant prick which gives him the prerequisiete qualities of being a good coach - you have to take the good with the bad. think bobby knight, bill parcells; not everybody can be like john wooden

[nicodemus]

Arena needs to relax. How in the world can he possibly expect soccer, which this country has only had any measure of success at for 10-15 years to compete with opening weekend of the most popular sport in America?

I know he's speaking to bigger issues than last weekend, but progress must have patience Bruce.

[japstam]

"They should teach World Cup in school.

Last year, while traveling for the Daily Herald to cover a Bears road game, I got into a conversation with a cab driver.

We talked about his native Malawi, a country in southern Africa that used to be called Rhodesia."

:confused:
I don't want to be pedantic, but please.... Malawi used to be called Nyasaland. It is Malawi's neighbor, Zimbabwe, that was previously known as Rhodesia.

[OldFanatic]

I have a friend that watches the EPL and won't watch the MLS. What am I supposed to do, take his cat and threaten to kill it if he won't watch MLS?

Yes.

[Keep parents away]

>>"We have so many millions of people who claim that they love the game and that they're part of the game in this country," he said. "If that's the case, they've got to support it.<< Bruce Arena

I have a friend that watches the EPL and won't watch the MLS. What am I supposed to do, take his cat and threaten to kill it if he won't watch MLS? There is only so much we can do.

Frankly, that's the problem. He has a cat. Wives and girlfriends have cats. Friends shouldn't have cats:)

[metros11]

"They should teach World Cup in school.

Last year, while traveling for the Daily Herald to cover a Bears road game, I got into a conversation with a cab driver.

We talked about his native Malawi, a country in southern Africa that used to be called Rhodesia."

:confused:
I don't want to be pedantic, but please.... Malawi used to be called Nyasaland. It is Malawi's neighbor, Zimbabwe, that was previously known as Rhodesia.
He also said that Ukraine is a mountainous region of eastern europe, yet Ukraine is actually known as the bread basket of europe.

[Bill Schmidt]

World Cup geopolitical lessons transcend sports-Daily Herald (http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/sportsstory.asp?id=91492)
They should teach World Cup in school.


Then you, and your editor should go. It is not "the Ukraine," in which case you would capitalize "the," but simply Ukraine. Anybody who did not know that, but maybe earns a living through writing news, would have learned last December when the presidential race had mass protests.

"...just missed advancing for the 1998 tournament." In English, and particularly in sports news style, a team does not advance for, but to, the next level. This appears a sloppy oversight when someone changed "qualifiying" to "advancing."

"Talk about your chance to discuss geopolitical history in the context of sport."
Talk about just glancing the surface when applying this concept to soccer. Simply pointing out a connection between someone you know (of), a soccer team, and a tournament misses all the "geopolitical" issues that started with the creation of the game, who brought it to countries around the world, how those countries adopted it, the formation of clubs as neighborhood groups often with a shared religion or ethnicity, etc. that we read in global soccer magazines every day. But then again, those guys are professionals.

[Bill Schmidt]

"They should teach World Cup in school.

Last year, while traveling for the Daily Herald to cover a Bears road game, I got into a conversation with a cab driver.

We talked about his native Malawi, a country in southern Africa that used to be called Rhodesia."

:confused:
I don't want to be pedantic, but please.... Malawi used to be called Nyasaland. It is Malawi's neighbor, Zimbabwe, that was previously known as Rhodesia.

Sophisticated and worldly American, meet Typical American Sportswriter From Not the Major Newspaper in a Given Market. Sports journalism in the U.S., particularly below the absolute top level, is filled with laziness, and even creation of stories using inaccuracies the writers assumed were correct.

[Pyro]

Sophisticated and worldly American, meet Typical American Sportswriter From Not the Major Newspaper in a Given Market. Sports journalism in the U.S., particularly below the absolute top level, is filled with laziness, and even creation of stories using inaccuracies the writers assumed were correct.


Just like those crazy players actually in the league who call it THE MLS.

I think we should just be happy about the noticable increase in articles about soccer in the past year and work to expand that trend instead of pissing and moaning about a "the". :cool:

[Stan Collins]

:confused:
I don't want to be pedantic Good, because it's dangerous.

but please.... Malawi used to be called Nyasaland. It is Malawi's neighbor, Zimbabwe, that was previously known as Rhodesia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodesia

Zimbabwe, Zabia, and Nyasaland were at one point all federated together in one government that would likely have colloqually been referred to, at least by some, as "Rhodesia."

[Anthony]

Good, because it's dangerous.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodesia

Zimbabwe, Zabia, and Nyasaland were at one point all federated together in one government that would likely have colloqually been referred to, at least by some, as "Rhodesia."

Acttually, it was known as the "Federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland" and alternatively, as the Central African Federation (CAF).

Zimbabwe was known as Southern Rhodesia, then simply Rhodesia once Northern Rhodesia became independent as Zambia.

One other point. Israel did not beocome a nation in 1928. In 1928, the land today known as the State of Israel, and the "Territories" was the Mandate of Palestine and was under British control (it was under British military control since 1917 and under a League of Nations Mandate after June of 1922). As Palestine, a team of Jewish soccer players formed a "national team."

The State of Israel did not become a nation until 1948.

[wufc]

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/09-06-2005/0004100488&EDATE=

Pokemon and US Youth Soccer Team Up to Celebrate Youth Soccer Month

[Stan Collins]

Acttually, it was known as the "Federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland" and alternatively, as the Central African Federation (CAF). Hence the term 'colloquially, at least by some', as I can just about guarantee you taxicab drivers did not use either of these two terms.

[Stan Collins]

Seriously, what are we supposing here, that McDill heard Zimbabwe and misremembered as Malawi? That strikes me as straining credulity far more than a Malawian(?) taxicab driver telling him Malawi was once known as Rhodesia.

[kingwho]

I was in Columbus this weekend and met 14 new people from my area (Twin Cities) who go to USA matches and watch EPL etc, but do not follow our local team - Minnesota Thunder or MLS. I asked all of them if they want to see soccer grow and succeed in the USA. Everyone of them answered with a definitive "Yes." So I told them that in my view, the true future starts from the bottom up, not the top down. I told them that if they dont support the local teams first, then MLS clubs will not make it & the national team will never reach its full potential. They all seemed to hear my impassioned plea. I will not stop spreading the word until I die.

[Stan Collins]

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/socc/sep05/353446.asp

"Arena will be taking the cautious route to World Cup," Milwaukee Jounral-Sentinel