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antifan
31 Aug 2005, 06:03 PM
The highway is right next to the Superdome and if they need to cross water, the army has portable floating roadways the people can walk acriss to get to the busses.
I thought that the 10 was underwater too.
HighburyGoon
31 Aug 2005, 06:11 PM
I thought that the 10 was underwater too.
I'm watching BBC News right now - the 10 is gone. It's a beach now.
surfcam
31 Aug 2005, 06:11 PM
I thought that the 10 was underwater too.
It is elevated right next to the Superdome. It isn't as you go further west towards the airport. Or they could take the elevated portion and hit the hwy (don't remember the #) that goes north, then cut back.
surfcam
31 Aug 2005, 06:15 PM
I'm watching BBC News right now - the 10 is gone. It's a beach now.
I-10 east surely is as it goes right over Lake Pontchartrain. But 10 west just skirts it on the western edge and is the road to Houston.
Edit: Just read this. Looks like they are talking about I-10 east.
"Sections of Interstate 10, the only major freeway leading into New Orleans from the east, lay shattered, dozens of huge slabs of concrete floating in the floodwaters. I-10 is the only route for commercial trucking across southern Louisiana."
HighburyGoon
31 Aug 2005, 06:19 PM
I-10 east surely is as it goes right over Lake Pontchartrain. But 10 west just skirts it on the western edge and is the road to Houston.
Edit: Just read this. Looks like they are talking about I-10 east.
"Sections of Interstate 10, the only major freeway leading into New Orleans from the east, lay shattered, dozens of huge slabs of concrete floating in the floodwaters. I-10 is the only route for commercial trucking across southern Louisiana."
Yeah, the reporter was standing near the bridges - they were smashed.
surfcam
31 Aug 2005, 06:25 PM
Yeah, the reporter was standing near the bridges - they were smashed.
That is from the rise in water, not so much wave and wind. Bridge decks are held in place by gravity (b/c they are so frickin heavy!) and are not bolted to the columns. So when the water levels rise above the decks, they can be lifted out of place. Same thing happened with Ivan on I-10 near Pensacola last year.
billyho96
31 Aug 2005, 06:44 PM
Lost of people from LA are coming into Arkansas, and all of the local radio stations have essentially stopped running normal programming and doing relief work.......... saying this is the worst natural disaster ever.
I heard a report of $5 gasoline in Atlanta :eek:
Teso Dos Bichos
31 Aug 2005, 08:39 PM
I don't know if this has been posted before or not, but it's a good read!
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Mel+B%2C+Hero+or+Halfwit%3F&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
(the first one)
:D
antifan
31 Aug 2005, 08:49 PM
I don't know if this has been posted before or not, but it's a good read!
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Mel+B%2C+Hero+or+Halfwit%3F&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
(the first one)
:D
It's funny, i'll take a look over there sometimes to see what Mel's up to. If anything he's only gotten worse and its not even funny at all. I wonder why anyone posts on that site though? Its really crap, have they all been banned from BS?
jatm516
31 Aug 2005, 10:13 PM
In NC, when Floyd hit, they basically constructed shelter towns made of those metal trailers that you see used in schools sometimes. I think that the initial expense was definitely greater than moving these people to the Astrodome, but 1 yr. later a lot of these people were still in these trailers.
They need to keep in mind that a lot of people (obviously i don't know the statistics) are not going to be able to "go back home"...EVER. There's no place to go TO. Most of these people that came to the Superdome are on fixed incomes either due to poverty or disability, and something like this hits them even harder. Withough FEMA shelters, many of these people would be homeless. They don't have an insurance settlement coming in. Their land (if they even happen to own any) most likely lies in the flood plain or close to it and is practically worthless.
In NC, if your land lies in a flood plain, you might as well sell it to the city or the Home owner's association (if you are so lucky) and let them build a trail or park or something.
They have basically lost all of their belongings. They are now out of work for at least a month, and frankly I cannot even imagine how hard it must be to sleep and sit all day in a stadium much less trying to keep children, etc. occupied.
Another issue is the schools...this causes a huge delay in the school year...and let's face it...LA schools ain't so good to begin with...meaning they probably needed their asses there even longer. :)
This delays the school year and puts the poorer children returning even later. Since poorer children regularly score significantly lower on standardized tests than mid or high income children, this is a big hit. They will be feeling the effects of this for the next decade.
jatm516
31 Aug 2005, 10:20 PM
That is from the rise in water, not so much wave and wind. Bridge decks are held in place by gravity (b/c they are so frickin heavy!) and are not bolted to the columns. So when the water levels rise above the decks, they can be lifted out of place. Same thing happened with Ivan on I-10 near Pensacola last year.
Wow! That is quite interesting ya water nerd. ;) (you know i couldn't be too glowingly nice w/o a joke or everyone would just think that someone had highjacked my user name :)) Seriously, I was looking at photos earlier in the paper and I never would have guessed that. Cam...our local intellect....
Hey Cam, speaking of this, I know you've mentioned the types of structures that you design before and even showed pictures, but I don't know much of the terminology (side effect of being land-locked in AR...seriously makes you claustrophobic...no lie!). Are the structures that you design similar either in function or in form to the levees that they refer to in NO? Or are these different?
jwaldman11
31 Aug 2005, 10:25 PM
Well, just woke up and the rain that didn't hit last night is here. I went out just in front of my building (which requires them to unlock the door for you) and it's damn impressive. It's bent light posts in half and totally wiped out a metal fence across the street. My girlfriend told me that they said on the news the wind was taking scooters and firing them around like bowling balls. I was only outside for about five minutes (under cover in the front of my building), but it soaked me fast. To show how ingenious we young Americans are, several others were also out front taking pictures. However, we are more intelligent than some of the Taiwanese, who were DRIVING SCOOTERS in this. If that doesn't scream "Darwin Award", I don't know what does.
Steph, don't worry, Freddie was not on the billboard at the time it was torn to pieces. If anything, this might bring him back sooner!
So I guess I have to pass the time today and find something here for breakfast, since McDonald's is a bit of a dangerous walk this morning!
antifan
31 Aug 2005, 10:26 PM
You might be seeing some refugees up your way, Ash. I heard on the radio that they were airlifting patients to hospitals up in Little Rock.
topcatcole
31 Aug 2005, 10:26 PM
In NC, when Floyd hit, they basically constructed shelter towns made of those metal trailers that you see used in schools sometimes. I think that the initial expense was definitely greater than moving these people to the Astrodome, but 1 yr. later a lot of these people were still in these trailers.
They need to keep in mind that a lot of people (obviously i don't know the statistics) are not going to be able to "go back home"...EVER. There's no place to go TO. Most of these people that came to the Superdome are on fixed incomes either due to poverty or disability, and something like this hits them even harder. Withough FEMA shelters, many of these people would be homeless. They don't have an insurance settlement coming in. Their land (if they even happen to own any) most likely lies in the flood plain or close to it and is practically worthless.
In NC, if your land lies in a flood plain, you might as well sell it to the city or the Home owner's association (if you are so lucky) and let them build a trail or park or something.
They have basically lost all of their belongings. They are now out of work for at least a month, and frankly I cannot even imagine how hard it must be to sleep and sit all day in a stadium much less trying to keep children, etc. occupied.
Another issue is the schools...this causes a huge delay in the school year...and let's face it...LA schools ain't so good to begin with...meaning they probably needed their asses there even longer. :)
This delays the school year and puts the poorer children returning even later. Since poorer children regularly score significantly lower on standardized tests than mid or high income children, this is a big hit. They will be feeling the effects of this for the next decade. Were you in NC then? Most of my family is in that area,
As for the schools, I have read today that the Texas Governor has already stepped up to the plate on this and said the kids there would be enrolled in school. At least one step in the right direction.
Has anyone heard from Jwaldman lately? I hope he's OK.
jwaldman11
31 Aug 2005, 10:27 PM
I saw the other storm on radar also. Those things change direction quick, so we'll see what happens. They do have tendency to curl north, so it might miss us, but I've seen these cut straight across as well. Guess I'll know in a week or two!
topcatcole
31 Aug 2005, 10:30 PM
I saw the other storm on radar also. Those things change direction quick, so we'll see what happens. They do have tendency to curl north, so it might miss us, but I've seen these cut straight across as well. Guess I'll know in a week or two! Right on cue!! How are things in your neck of the woods?
jwaldman11
31 Aug 2005, 10:36 PM
Right on cue!! How are things in your neck of the woods?
Well, it's taken to knocking things off my shelves now (the downside to having a corner apartment - two walls for the wind to rattle!), but otherwise, my apartment is OK. Everything else is getting the hell beat out of it right now though (see five or so posts up). Guess I need to find another video game to play today!
Bluto11
31 Aug 2005, 11:18 PM
ok, so I was at the rents place tonight and driving home I took the Stevenson (I-55) to Lake Shore Drive and took that north to the street that runs by my apartment. I freaking love driving on LSD at night. The city looked absolutly gorgeous. just thought I'd share
antifan
31 Aug 2005, 11:28 PM
ok, so I was at the rents place tonight and driving home I took the Stevenson (I-55) to Lake Shore Drive and took that north to the street that runs by my apartment. I freaking love driving on LSD at night. The city looked absolutly gorgeous. just thought I'd share
Dan, you know you really shouldn't be driving on LSD. ;)
Bluto11
31 Aug 2005, 11:31 PM
Dan, you know you really shouldn't be driving on LSD. ;)
yeah, i know
"running south on Lake Shore Drive, heading into town. just slipping on by on LSD Friday night trouble bound."