Nude, Where's My Car?

[Bluto11]

i need to see 40 year old virgin



second page!

[Bighorn]

Dan, what the hell did Jamie do to the Globe? That paint job is horrendous.

[johno]

As a coastal engineer and someone who deals with water flows, waves and storm surge all the time, when they say filling the breach is an engineering nightmare, they REALLY mean it. I am sure the Army Corps of Engineers is going nuts trying to figure out what to do. I don't envy their job right now.

I think it is going to be quite some time before it is all fixed and they let people back in. My prediction is that it will be 2-3 months before NO is somewhat up and running and a year before it is all back to 'normal'.

Damn.


wow... that's grim... I wonder what the saints will do?

[Bluto11]

Dan, what the hell did Jamie do to the Globe? That paint job is horrendous.
yeah, i dunno. it looked better when it was just the natural stone.

last tuesday morning the whole thing was painted white, primer i guess, and then on wednesday morning it was this awful pale red color. I'm glad they finished it will the yellow. not sure what they are going for with it though.

its better then O'Donovan's. They decided to paint the outside purple!

[Bighorn]

yeah, i dunno. it looked better when it was just the natural stone.

last tuesday morning the whole thing was painted white, primer i guess, and then on wednesday morning it was this awful pale red color. I'm glad they finished it will the yellow. not sure what they are going for with it though.

its better then O'Donovan's. They decided to paint the outside purple!

LOL Yeah, I saw that too.
WTF, did some paint salesman walk up and down Irving offering bad colors for free?

[arsenalgirl30016]

wow... that's grim... I wonder what the saints will do?
Considering that the pump system that NO has could have only pumped about 1 inch of water out an hour (if, BIG IF, functioning), it would take at least 1 week to get the water out as it stands now. But since the levee has failed (in several places) and the canal system that is supposed to take on the water that is pumped out is full also, it stands to reason that this will take a long long time to recover....
I have a hard time reconciling myself to the fact that the levee system in NO has always been flawed and no one has fixted it yet! NO had a warning with Andrew at just how bad the system there was and they could have/should have fixed it a long time ago. However, I cannot imagine that the repair process would be cheap and that no elected official wanted to be the one that raised the taxes to pay for it......

But I am not an engineering guy like Cam-perhaps he could speak more to this issue than I could!

It is horrifying to see the feed coming from the NO/Mississippi areas and know that there is so much damage that we haven't even gotten to see yet! :( Horrible situation all around.

[Bluto11]

LOL Yeah, I saw that too.
WTF, did some paint salesman walk up and down Irving offering bad colors for free?
seriously, he probably had some colors he had to get rid of and made some bank!!

and Cam, mr engineer, how much has the daming and controling of the Mississippi as a whole (not just in Louisiana and NO) comtributed to what is happening now?

[surfcam]

All the channeling and leveeing of the Miss. River has really done is keep it in one place and provide some flood protection. NO is built in a swampy area, and it may be subsiding like many areas of LA, but not sure. That could be the reason that much of the city is below mean sea level.

The issue with the levees is that they are earthen and are subject to erosion. The levees that failed seem to be on the Lake side, not the river side (though I could be mistaken). The water level in the lake rose with the storm surge and as the surge rises, the waves in the lake can get bigger. The water level probably got higher than expected, and the expected level plus some safety factor, is what the crest of the levees should be designed to. So water and waves start to attack the crest, then overtop and erode the back side of the levee to the point where it is not structurally stable. Then with the weight of the water and it wanting to go from a high elevation to a lower on, the levees failed and were breached.

There are only 2 real solutions to this. 1) make higher and wider levees. 2) armor the levees with rock or some type of mat. Both of these would be considerable in cost. But looking at what happened, maybe it was worth it. On the other hand, when a storm of that size happens, all bets are off. I deal with this issue all the time at work. It is VERY hard to stop nature as we all know. Even though there were breaches in the levees, consider what would have happened if the weren't there or not as substantial. The whole town could have been completely swept away.

[Bluto11]

thanks!

i read somewhere that the constant control of the Mississippi (ie damning and flow control up north), ment that there was less silt and build up in the delta so the surge was even worse

[Detlef]

LOL Yeah, I saw that too.
WTF, did some paint salesman walk up and down Irving offering bad colors for free?


Stuart told me they did that to match their web site colors :confused:
I liked it when it was orange, with the blue. Haway the Illini! :D
They need a spotlight on their sign at night.

[Detlef]

I was going to watch Prison Break

filmed in my hometown of Joliet, Illinois!!! :eek:

[surfcam]

thanks!

i read somewhere that the constant control of the Mississippi (ie damning and flow control up north), ment that there was less silt and build up in the delta so the surge was even worse

There is less silt and that effects the marsh and barrier island shorelines. But that shouldn't effect too much the surge levels. Plus, as I said, when a Cat 4 to 5 hurricane hits, all bets are off! That is why I spent 22 hours in a car leaving NO last september when Ivan was predicted to hit there!!

[surfcam]

filmed in my hometown of Joliet, Illinois!!! :eek:

Also part-time home to Jake "Joliet" Blues!! :D

http://www.bluesbros.us/images/g_belushi.jpg

[Bighorn]

Stuart told me they did that to match their web site colors :confused:
I liked it when it was orange, with the blue. Haway the Illini! :D
They need a spotlight on their sign at night.

LOL
It is hideous. But in a way it's cool because it reminds me of just about every time I get in over my head with a home improvement project. I have this really good idea and then when I get finished it looks like complete ******** and I have to pay someone to come in and fix what I ********ed up.

[arsenalgirl30016]

thanks!

i read somewhere that the constant control of the Mississippi (ie damning and flow control up north), ment that there was less silt and build up in the delta so the surge was even worse
Sean has been reading this book called "The Control of Nature" and there is about 100 pages dedicated to the levees in NO.......

[arsenalgirl30016]

There is less silt and that effects the marsh and barrier island shorelines. But that shouldn't effect too much the surge levels. Plus, as I said, when a Cat 4 to 5 hurricane hits, all bets are off! That is why I spent 22 hours in a car leaving NO last september when Ivan was predicted to hit there!!
It is actually nice to be able to get info from someone about the "whys" of some of this-even if you have to preface it by saying Cat 4 or Cat 5 and all bets are off!

Cam-OT Resident Expert! :D ;)

[antifan]

I'm not entirely sure, but I did propose this title for the last thread, so perhaps the rep belongs to me? :D
I believe you are correct! I remember your post but i couldn't find it. Despite a certain Manc who claims to have thought of it after you posted it, you are the true author of this thread name. But i haven't got any rep to give you. :(

[surfcam]

Sean has been reading this book called "The Control of Nature" and there is about 100 pages dedicated to the levees in NO.......

Yeah, the main issues though are development, population centers, and what level of disaster do you want? This is a big issue that most all engineers have to deal with, especially civil engineers. Take the levees for instance. The Miss. river and all rivers meander naturally. The present location is very different from where it was 100, 200, 300 years ago. Do you leave the river free to move? If so, it may carve a path through the city over time. Do you let the homes, business' infrastructure, etc. in its path wash away? Also, what about periods of high water. It may not be a catastrophic flood, but the banks would be over-run much more than they are now and again, do we accept the more frequent loss of homes, infrastructure, etc. But it is leveed, and like we see and as I'm sure the book points out, there are major issues with that.

[surfcam]

I believe you are correct! I remember your post but i couldn't find it. Despite a certain Manc who claims to have thought of it after you posted it, you are the true author of this thread name. But i haven't got any rep to give you. :(

I passed Mike some earlier so jump on!!

[jwaldman11]

Well, this has been an interesting night so far. Everyone in Taichung had the afternoon off, but the storm didn't actually hit until 10. This is by far the most powerful storm I've been through. The rain isn't that heavy, but the wind is really and truly powerful as hell. As much as the last one was rocking my building, this one did it twice as bad. It was literally like being on a boat, as it was going back and forth. I was actually feeling nauseous it was so bad. It also succeeded in ripping apart the Calvin Klein billboard across the street where Freddie's picture once stood (proving he was much tougher than the sissy models they have up there now ;) ). It's a bit calmer now, but I suspect that this is just the eye and that more fun will be coming. I have tomorrow off, so, hopefully, I'll get the chance to look over the damage, though I think my apartment will be OK. As I told anti earlier today regarding Katrina, when Mother Nature wants to, she can really make you her bitch.