Maradona admits Hand of God goal

[Cassano]

Maradona, on his new talk show, talked about his "Hand of God" against England in WC 1986:

http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/4801922

[bojendyk]

On that multiple-DVD history of soccer set, he admits it as well. He argues that, if the ball had crossed the line and Peter Shilton ("honest Peter Shilton") were able to whack it out without the linesman or ref noticing that it had crossed the line, Shilton would have done so. Maradona is a prick, but I agree with him. Last season, for instance, Roy Carroll didn't flag down the ref and yell, "No! Wait! That ball actually crossed the line!"

Whether the hypothetical situation proposed by Maradona and the Hand of God are equivalent infractions, I can't say. And, of course, it does matter that only one of them actually happened.

[Sempre]

On that multiple-DVD history of soccer set, he admits it as well. He argues that, if the ball had crossed the line and Peter Shilton ("honest Peter Shilton") were able to whack it out without the linesman or ref noticing that it had crossed the line, Shilton would have done so. Maradona is a prick, but I agree with him. Last season, for instance, Roy Carroll didn't flag down the ref and yell, "No! Wait! That ball actually crossed the line!"

Whether the hypothetical situation proposed by Maradona and the Hand of God are equivalent infractions, I can't say. And, of course, it does matter that only one of them actually happened.

Did you see recently that Alan Shearer advised a referee NOT
to red-card an opposing player after a lunging tackle? I found
that to be absolutely fascinating.

[DVN_]

Maradona, on his new talk show, talked about his "Hand of God" against England in WC 1986:

http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/4801922


he admitted this years ago.

[bungadiri]

I listened to BBC while stuck in a traffic jam this morning. They spoke to an Argentine journalist who covers the EPL. When Owen Bennett Jones asked her what she thought of Maradona finally admitting “having cheated,” she argued that forwards regularly do whatever they can to score and Maradona's action was no exception. What was extraordinary, she said, was the fact that it wasn't called back. Basically, this is same argument I've heard used to justify diving extended to encompass deliberate handling of the ball, in this case in the most important context (the WC) soccer has to offer.

I think this example in particular shows that kind of argument for the fallacy it is. The Argentine reporter tried to minimize the importance of the handball goal by pointing out that Maradona had soon afterwards scored "perhaps the greatest goal ever scored" at a WC, but really it's impossible to say, because the context of that goal was immediately shaped (for example, how much was the defense he shredded for his second goal affected by the previous travesty?) by Maradona’s cheating and the referee’s blunder. The hand of God goal overshadows and cheapens both Argentina's win and Maradona's otherwise spectacular performance. By extension, so the more run of the mill versions of cheating do for soccer everywhere.

[0-Point]

I don't geddit...the handball's on tape and he never denied handling the ball (which clearly he can't)...oh, silly me...he's admitting it was deliberate - but when did he ever say it was an accident?...wasn't it blamed on god?( god's lawyers are looking at a the possiblity of a libel case). I propose capital punishment is brought back for deliberates handballs that lead to or prevent goals or interupts the flow of play! Helloooooooooooooooooooo. :cool:

[Cris 09]

He's just saying it more now because he has his own TV show, so he's on, obviously, he's on TV more. God help us!

As much as I have respected his talent as 2nd best all time player he has some seriouse diarrhea of the mouth and constipation of the brain!!!

[CheveLoco]

i knew that had been a hand ball..i knew it!!!!

[Teso Dos Bichos]

I believe in winning at all costs, even if that involves some form of gamesmanship. Therefore I fully support what Maradona did and applaud him for it, particularly considering the opposition. :cool:

[jcmartins]

i knew that had been a hand ball..i knew it!!!!
Really man.. how did you know? Wow... i think you are the only one...

[jcmartins]

I believe in winning at all costs, even if that involves some form of gamesmanship. Therefore I fully support what Maradona did and applaud him for it, particularly considering the opposition. :cool:
There are times and there are times... That was the time to do what he did... it only proved his genius... the rest is just BS....
When Tulio Scored a hand goal against Argentina in 93 i think.... We were happy as hell... better than winning against your worst rival is winning with a bad call.. i love it...

[CheveLoco]

Really man.. how did you know? Wow... i think you are the only one...

well u know Maradona admitting it after 19 years proved me right!!

[kotto_bass]

As much as I have respected his talent as 2nd best all time player ...

I think he's the most talented player ever, having watched his other rival on tapes. He simply was a one-man team!

[Rui Costa]

Lineker should have tried to handle the ball later in that match, when he was virtually on the goal line, but instead he went for a header and the Argentine defender, whose name I don't feel like attempting to spell at this moment in time, made a magnificent clearence.

Is honesty the best policy in such a situation?.Obviously not.It would have evened the score.Literally.

[argentine soccer fan]

I read a quote of his years ago in which he compared his first goal against England to 'stealing an Englishman's wallet' and went on to say that his second goal 'covered it up'.

[argentine soccer fan]

I think this example in particular shows that kind of argument for the fallacy it is. The Argentine reporter tried to minimize the importance of the handball goal by pointing out that Maradona had soon afterwards scored "perhaps the greatest goal ever scored" at a WC, but really it's impossible to say, because the context of that goal was immediately shaped (for example, how much was the defense he shredded for his second goal affected by the previous travesty?) by Maradona’s cheating and the referee’s blunder. The hand of God goal overshadows and cheapens both Argentina's win and Maradona's otherwise spectacular performance. By extension, so the more run of the mill versions of cheating do for soccer everywhere.

I agree that the greatness of the second goal does not cover up the fact that the first goal was accomplished by cheating. But I don't buy your argument diminishing the second goal, saying it may have happened only because the defense was 'affected by the previous travesty'.

Why cheapen the second goal? Maradona has proven himself capable of shredding top defenses time and time again. In fact, Maradona shredded that same defense English defense in a similar manner during the play which led to the first goal, ridding himself of four opponents before passing to Valdano and breaking free on goal. Valdano's poor return pass was what led to the divided ball with Shilton and to the cheating. Perhaps that is why Maradona never let go of the ball the second time around.

[jcmartins]

I agree that the greatness of the second goal does not cover up the fact that the first goal was accomplished by cheating. But I don't buy your argument diminishing the second goal, saying it may have happened only because the defense was 'affected by the previous travesty'.

Why cheapen the second goal? Maradona has proven himself capable of shredding top defenses time and time again. In fact, Maradona shredded that same defense English defense in a similar manner during the play which led to the first goal, ridding himself of four opponents before passing to Valdano and breaking free on goal. Valdano's poor return pass was what led to the divided ball with Shilton and to the cheating. Perhaps that is why Maradona never let go of the ball the second time around.


In short, Maradona did what he had to do to win the World Cup, the only reason it was so well known and still talked about to date is because it happened the likes of Maradona, many other similar controversial events have happened in the history of the World Cup and is not nearly as discussed, why? only because the involved weren't as great as the Pibe.... Again... it's a moment in the history of soccer, it does not demoralize the man, it does not overshadows his genius on the second goal, and it does not give football a bad rep. It's an accident, a seized moment, if it dodn't happen this way, it would happen another, that was his world cup, Argentina would have one one way or another, like Brazil in 1970.... ( and not like Argentina in 78, That was demoralizing, dirty and disgusting - when a country sells themselves it's not a part of football, then it's just plain vbusiness - I'm surprised people insist in discussing 86's hand of god, and forget all about the real travesty that happened in 78)

Farewell Robinho (http://www,giantsofbrasil.com/myopinions)




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[kotto_bass]

I agree that the greatness of the second goal does not cover up the fact that the first goal was accomplished by cheating. But I don't buy your argument diminishing the second goal, saying it may have happened only because the defense was 'affected by the previous travesty'.

Why cheapen the second goal? Maradona has proven himself capable of shredding top defenses time and time again. In fact, Maradona shredded that same defense English defense in a similar manner during the play which led to the first goal, ridding himself of four opponents before passing to Valdano and breaking free on goal. Valdano's poor return pass was what led to the divided ball with Shilton and to the cheating. Perhaps that is why Maradona never let go of the ball the second time around.

Very well said, and with some wisdom, may I add!

[AFA7886]

On that multiple-DVD history of soccer set, he admits it as well. He argues that, if the ball had crossed the line and Peter Shilton ("honest Peter Shilton") were able to whack it out without the linesman or ref noticing that it had crossed the line, Shilton would have done so. Maradona is a prick, but I agree with him. Last season, for instance, Roy Carroll didn't flag down the ref and yell, "No! Wait! That ball actually crossed the line!"

Whether the hypothetical situation proposed by Maradona and the Hand of God are equivalent infractions, I can't say. And, of course, it does matter that only one of them actually happened.

I think you touch on an important point. Although I do not condone cheating...I do remember Maradona being roughly fouled and nearly having his head bashed in by an English defender prior to him scoring the first goal. Is this not cheating? I don't think the England team set out to win the "Fair Play" award that day either. Unfortunately in sports there is a win at all cost mentality. I just wish the English would get off of this "Gentelmen" crap..believe me I've played against them...they foul and cheat like hell, actually everyone does...sad.

[AFA7886]

In short, Maradona did what he had to do to win the World Cup, the only reason it was so well known and still talked about to date is because it happened the likes of Maradona, many other similar controversial events have happened in the history of the World Cup and is not nearly as discussed, why? only because the involved weren't as great as the Pibe.... Again... it's a moment in the history of soccer, it does not demoralize the man, it does not overshadows his genius on the second goal, and it does not give football a bad rep. It's an accident, a seized moment, if it dodn't happen this way, it would happen another, that was his world cup, Argentina would have one one way or another, like Brazil in 1970.... ( and not like Argentina in 78, That was demoralizing, dirty and disgusting - when a country sells themselves it's not a part of football, then it's just plain vbusiness - I'm surprised people insist in discussing 86's hand of god, and forget all about the real travesty that happened in 78)

Farewell Robinho (http://www,giantsofbrasil.com/myopinions)




...
78???? The Magazine "El Grafico" just had an interview with the 78 Peruvian GK in it's July issue. He says that Peru were outplayed and came into the game with a lot of injuries. I think the sell-out stuff is just a Brazilian conspiracy theory. The fact that the GK was Argentine born only adds to it...believe me there is no love lost between Peruvians and Argentines. I think Maradona was kicked out of USA 94 because the Pele infactuated powers that be wanted Brazil to win....ridiculous...come on we could dispute every WC with this sort of crap.