Who will win UEFA Group 4? [R]

[ZeekLTK]

Group 4:
1. Ireland - 13 pts +7 GD
2. Switzerland - 12 pts +9 GD
3. Israel - 11 pts +2 GD
4. France - 10 pts +4 GD
5. Cyprus - 4 pts -5 GD
6. Faroe Islands - 1 pt -17 GD



September 4, 2004:
Ireland 3 - 0 Cyprus
Switzerland 6 - 0 Faroe Islands
France 0 - 0 Israel

September 8, 2004:
Faroe Islands 0 - 2 France
Switzerland 1 - 1 Ireland
Israel 2 - 1 Cyprus

October 9, 2004:
France 0 - 0 Ireland
Israel 2 - 2 Switzerland
Cyprus 2 - 2 Faroe Islands

October 13, 2004:
Ireland 2 - 0 Faroe Islands
Cyprus 0 - 2 France

November 17, 2004:
Cyprus 1 - 2 Israel

March 26, 2005:
Israel 1 - 1 Ireland
France 0 - 0 Switzerland

March 30, 2005:
Switzerland 1 - 0 Cyprus
Israel 1 - 1 France

June 4, 2005:
Faroe Islands 1 - 3 Switzerland
Ireland 2 - 2 Israel

June 8, 2005:
Faroe Islands 0 - 2 Ireland

August 17, 2005:
Faroe Islands 0 - 3 Cyprus



September 3, 2005:
Switzerland - Israel
France - Faroe Islands

September 7, 2005:
Faroe Islands - Israel
Ireland - France
Cyprus - Switzerland

October 8, 2005:
Switzerland - France
Israel - Faroe Islands
Cyprus - Ireland

October 12, 2005:
Ireland - Switzerland
France - Cyprus

[Greywacke]

Israel has a big advantage having already held a Zidane-less France to two draws, whereas Switzerland and Ireland still have to face France with Zidane (granted, France will be on the road for these matches).

If Israel can get a result in Switzerland on Sept 3., they are almost guaranteed 2nd and have a decent chance to win the group.

[st ryma 7]

i say ireland, allthough the luck of the irish hasnt really been with em lately

[PileD]

I think the leagues in europe will do it.

Nore that is any club of the BuLi, or any club of the PL, nore any of the Spanish League, nore Italy.

But I think it's the French league, the strongest in europe, they`ll make it.

But the other try it, since years, even they don`t have the power, but they try.

(Bur my sevrest ti is Luxembourg (Lützelburg) when they power up, oh oh.

[smithfan]

I think it will be either Ireland and Switzerland or Ireland and France...I don't know how strong Israel is. The only player I know from their team is Benayoun (sp?)

argh...it all depends on France...

[Udinese]

It will be Ireland. Israel wont make it.

[devilman]

Israel is lucky to have this many points already i say Ireland wins group 2nd France

[G.PAGLIA]

i'd say 1st ireland and 2nd france/switzerland

[Nermalthecat]

If Israel gets a point in Switzerland, they close home-and-home with the Faroes and very easily could land second place or, in an outside chance, win the group on 18 points.

[Benton]

Israel will make it. With still two games remaining against the Faroes, get ready to see Yossi Benayoun zig-zagging his way past defenders in WC '06.

[Mancityfan81]

Ireland lucked out this year in that they hit a French team in transition. Watch out for Israel, though, they could steal the group.

[prymetyme]

france now that zidanes back as well as other old french people theyll win the group and will have a good run but ultimatly loose in like quaters or semis but anythings a better showing for them 2000

[IASocFan]

Israel has to beat the Swiss to have a reasonable chance. Or they can have tie and hope the other games are all 0-0(or similar close tie).

The Swiss will knock the Israelis out with a home win. With 4 points against France and Ireland, they'll win the group. If they get two or three points against Ireland and France. They need they Ireland/France match to even their scores, and the Swiss will win by 2 points.

France needs at least 4 points at Switzerland and Ireland. Six will win the group, four will require that the tieing team doesn't beat Israel or the other team.

Ireland neads at least 4 points against France and Switzerland. Six will win the group, four will be up to the tie breakers with anyone else that wins a game between the top 4.

[Sion]

The advantage Switzerland and France have over everyone else int he group at this point is they have 4 matches left while the others have 3 matches left to get points.

[royalstilton]

Not to be a total jerk, but this isn't really UEFA, is it?

And my vote goes to Israel, with France coming in second in the group.

[royalstilton]

Not to be a total jerk, but this isn't really UEFA, is it?

And my vote goes to Israel, with France coming in second in the group.
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well, i'm wrong again...

26 times and it's still August :o

[bracer028]

i really want israel to make it...then tehy will get killed by the host country

[royalstilton]

i really want israel to make it...then tehy will get killed by the host country
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not funny.

[mikaforsell23]

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not funny.


really not funny. i hope that switzerland wins the group 4. i will watch the game switzerland vs. bern live in the stadium.

[barthez]

france and ireland. no doubt