FSC get $0.20 per subscriber per month; ESPN's $2.60

[pc4th]

Some nice info for those that want to know
http://www.sportsbusinessnews.com/_news/news_333688.php

OLN expects to be in 67 million homes by the end of this year, but Kagan figures show that it is getting only 12 cents per subscriber from cable operators, about what ESPN Classic gets for showing games played years ago.

The NFL Network gets 19 cents per subscriber, while Fox Soccer Channel gets 20 cents per subscriber for showing the other kind of football here, according to Kagan. All those numbers are dwarfed by the $2.60 per subscriber that ESPN pulls in.

IF FSC get 10 million subscriber, it gets $2 million each month. $24 million each year.

[Spartak]

The real news here is FSC gets more per subscriber than the NFL Network.

[crewcrazy17]

The real news here is FSC gets more per subscriber than the NFL Network.
Not really. FSC is the place that many people watch their favorite teams or leagues play. NFL Network is just a fluff station with no games, nor any real news.

EDIT: The NFL Network does show preseason games, but not regular or postseason.

[BorzUSA]

that seems like an awful lot of money for ESPN to be making domestically. $2.40 x about 80,000,000 homes that receive ESPN a month is incredible. Good for them I guess.

[Sachin]

If you want to blame anyone for skyrocketing cable prices, blame ESPN.

Sachin

[Banal Minutia]

They still call it ESPN...i figured by now they changed it to MTV Sports Network. That channel is a disaster compared to 10 years ago.

[Sachin]

My uncle's next door neighbor is an ESPN VP. When I met him, I said to him "ESPN... I remember you guys. Didn't you used to show sports?" He didn't take too kindly to that.

Sachin

[Stupid_American]

that seems like an awful lot of money for ESPN to be making domestically. $2.40 x about 80,000,000 homes that receive ESPN a month is incredible. Good for them I guess.

Well, when you drastically overpay for NHL rights and slightly overpay for NBA rights, you tend to find some ways to keep constant revenue coming in.

By the way, if I remember correctly from my television programming class I took my Junior year at college (mind you, that was two years). ESPN has BY FAR the highest per subscriber rate of any non-premium cable channel, not just sports programming. In fact, when describing the tiers of channels, my professor put ESPN in a class all its own.

[aartef redded]

My uncle's next door neighbor is an ESPN VP. When I met him, I said to him "ESPN... I remember you guys. Didn't you used to show sports?" He didn't take too kindly to that.

Sachin

Great way to make a friendly first impression- when you first meet someone, insult their line of work. :rolleyes:

[aartef redded]

Well, when you drastically overpay for NHL rights and slightly overpay for NBA rights, you tend to find some ways to keep constant revenue coming in.

By the way, if I remember correctly from my television programming class I took my Junior year at college (mind you, that was two years). ESPN has BY FAR the highest per subscriber rate of any non-premium cable channel, not just sports programming. In fact, when describing the tiers of channels, my professor put ESPN in a class all its own.

The easiest way to kill ESPN would be for cable to let customers choose whether they wanted it or not. There goes the NFL. Their coverage is 99% AWFUL. If I were an NFL fan, I'd just get the direct TV package.

[Revs007]

Great way to make a friendly first impression- when you first meet someone, insult their line of work. :rolleyes:

who cares!

remember, they are the enemy.... :D

[Stupid_American]

The easiest way to kill ESPN would be for cable to let customers choose whether they wanted it or not. There goes the NFL. Their coverage is 99% AWFUL. If I were an NFL fan, I'd just get the direct TV package.

I think the main reason the cable companies haven't gone to "ala carte" style programming (which John McCain and others have lobbied for) is that it hurts smaller, niche channels (like Bravo or IFC) that are included on some basic packages that need that subscriber fee to survive. With that system in place, people probably would not pick that niche channel from the "menu" and you would get fewer cable channels taking chances.

[aartef redded]

I think the main reason the cable companies haven't gone to "ala carte" style programming (which John McCain and others have lobbied for) is that it hurts smaller, niche channels (like Bravo or IFC) that are included on some basic packages that need that subscriber fee to survive. With that system in place, people probably would not pick that niche channel from the "menu" and you would get fewer cable channels taking chances.

Well the thing w/ niche channels is their programming is very cheap. Bravo is mostly reruns & stuff that costs pennies to broadcast.

ESPN almost paid BILLIONS for the NFL & NBA. If enough people cancelled ESPN, they couldnt afford either.

[crewcrazy17]

I think the main reason the cable companies haven't gone to "ala carte" style programming (which John McCain and others have lobbied for) is that it hurts smaller, niche channels (like Bravo or IFC) that are included on some basic packages that need that subscriber fee to survive. With that system in place, people probably would not pick that niche channel from the "menu" and you would get fewer cable channels taking chances.
But is fewer niche networks really a bad thing? Really how many channels do we need?

[drew_VT_6]

Great way to make a friendly first impression- when you first meet someone, insult their line of work. :rolleyes:

What else you would expect from a hardcore BS poster? ;)

[DAGSports]

Yep, in terms of carriage, ESPN and Discovery Channel are alone at the top, with CNN/MSNBC/FOX News and MTV not too far behind.

ESPN is king of subscriber fees. And they do justify it. I've read that ESPN has more hours of live and original programming a week than literally 95% of all other channels. And the demand for it will likely remain high as long as they've got event-type TV, such as Monday Night Football, Sunday Night Baseball, ACC Wednesday and the rest.

[Stupid_American]

But is fewer niche networks really a bad thing? Really how many channels do we need?

I think some people might consider channels like GolTV, FSC, FSE, etc. as niche channels.

[mbanks]

What else you would expect from a hardcore BS poster? ;)


Yeah, then in the next breath....

"Hi, I really love MLS...do you think you could add some games...?"

Nice job, Sachin! (Heh) :)

[capitalist]

Some nice info for those that want to know
http://www.sportsbusinessnews.com/_news/news_333688.php

IF FSC get 10 million subscriber, it gets $2 million each month. $24 million each year.

Fox Soccer Channel reaches over 24 million subscribers
http://www.oursportscentral.com/services/releases/?id=3208646

[TheNewOrleansHammer]

Yep, in terms of carriage, ESPN and Discovery Channel are alone at the top, with CNN/MSNBC/FOX News and MTV not too far behind.

ESPN is king of subscriber fees. And they do justify it. I've read that ESPN has more hours of live and original programming a week than literally 95% of all other channels. And the demand for it will likely remain high as long as they've got event-type TV, such as Monday Night Football, Sunday Night Baseball, ACC Wednesday and the rest.


........and poker, pro eating, little league baseball, drag racing, fishing, X-games, streetball (whatever the F#%K that is) and come on baseball really isn't a sport.
This information has really upset me, I cant believe I've been paying for this crap, the only time I watch ESPN is when there is a Tennis major on. I think John McCain is 100% correct you should pay for what you want, damn meddeling (real) Republican getting in the way of the lobbyists controlling this(fake) Republican administration.